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Roy Williams is an Animal! Be Afraid...Very Afraid!
- Thread starter Kingzofthejungle
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DetroitLions
Practice Squad
Andre is a WR...
Kingzofthejungle
Practice Squad
SassyTexan said:
We all know he came from Texas. My wife is from Longview. I just thought you might be interested in reading a local story about him. I am sure he will be amped to put on a show for the local viewers in Texas.
jacquescas
Veteran
unfortuneatly we have a weapon to stop Roy. Aaron Glenn. Say what you want, but a rookie WR starting his 2nd game of the season is going to have trouble matched up against an all-pro multiple probowl corner all night. Glenn will shut down Williams and leave Dunta to hand Tai Streets.
Roy Williams will have a tough time making an impact this week. As for the rest of the season, i think he will be a stud, this week he will learn alot since he will be the key focus of the defense.
Roy Williams will have a tough time making an impact this week. As for the rest of the season, i think he will be a stud, this week he will learn alot since he will be the key focus of the defense.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Roy is a very talented WR, and I expect him to have a very good NFL career. I just hope he doesn't have the hammy problems that plagued him at Texas. Still I'd take AJ over Roy, and that's not just 'homerism'. AJ is a TO type of receiver without the big mouth or ego. He's a down to earth and quiet WR. I must admit I was a bit surprised at the intensity he showed against the Chargers. He slammed the Chargers safety to the field after he got in his face after the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
SBTexans08
Rookie
That guy asked for it though....he kept on pushing A.J. well after the play and A.J. just needed to show him there's none of that going on while he's on the field!
texasguy346
Mod Squad
That's why I enjoyed the play so much. AJ manhandled him almost like Turley manhandled that Jets DB when he was still with the Saints. Never a bad thing when a WR's strength reminds you of a OLineman. It's when a WR's speed reminds you of a OLineman that you're in trouble (Keyshawn). Only kidding.
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
texasguy346 said:
Yeah you see where that CB put up his hand for AJ to help him up and AJ slapped his hand away ....
DetroitLions
Practice Squad
numbers mean nothing... unless he played CB in college, AJ wouldnt be a good corner... Corner is a technique position, and it would be stupid to put a WR at the DB position... as far as Aaron Glenn... he got smoked by Gates, who hasnt played football in 4 years...3rd Coast Playa said:haha sorry buddy, you didnt outsmart mei know the members of our team. dom implemented puttin andre on roy, dont be scared or nervous though.....hes only 6-2 230 runs under a 4.4 and has 40 inch vert.
SBTexans08
Rookie
DetroitLions said:
...so much for technique huh? :hehe:
[/JOKE!!]
DetroitLions
Practice Squad
huh? did i miss something?SBTexans08 said:
DetroitLions
Practice Squad
i dunno who was covering the whole game, but on the NFL network they said Gates was stepping up earlier then expected, and he did so well the Texans had to put Aaron Glenn on him, and then it showed a replay Glenn getting burned by Gates 1 time...mes311 said:
SBTexans08
Rookie
DetroitLions said:
*sighs*
You said that corner is a technique position yet a guy that hadn't played football in 4 years burned a guy that is recognized as being one of the best at his positions in the NFL......so much for technique.
Did you miss something.....yeah, it's long gone too....went way over your head. :hehe:
SBTexans08
Rookie
I did hear something about Glenn covering Gates a couple of times but for the most part it was Eric Brown getting burned (covering) Antonio Gates.
DetroitLions
Practice Squad
i said cornerback is a techniqe position, not WR... so i think my point is the one that is long gone...SBTexans08 said:
SBTexans08
Rookie
DetroitLions said:
WT F?? I know you said cornerback was.....what are you smoking???
Diehardtexan
Waterboy
Glen was the spy on that play that you are talking about...I think the line backer was suppose to step back on that play.DetroitLions said:
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
DetroitLions said:
Funny, that sounds just like John Clayton's little segment on Sportscenter--he mentions Glenn and then the clip shows Eric Brown.
SBTexans08
Rookie
This is for the DetroitLions dude since he's still a little confused...let me simplify this for him a bit.
You said that the cornerback position is position that calls for technique. Aaron Glenn is considered among many to be one of the best corners in the league as he has made it to the pro bowl multiple times at this technique position.
We have that out of the way.......right? Good!
What good is it to be one of the best at this technique position if some guy who hasn't played football in 4 years comes in and skools you on some plays, hence the comment I made, "so much for technique."
I htmled it since there are some very hypercritical Texans fans here (including myself :hehe: ) and thought some would get a little hot under the collar thinking I was bashing Glenn, which I wasn't. It was all for good humor. Hey, that guy a.j. joked around in his "voice of the fan" article on the houstontexans.com site. SEE HERE
You said that the cornerback position is position that calls for technique. Aaron Glenn is considered among many to be one of the best corners in the league as he has made it to the pro bowl multiple times at this technique position.
We have that out of the way.......right? Good!
What good is it to be one of the best at this technique position if some guy who hasn't played football in 4 years comes in and skools you on some plays, hence the comment I made, "so much for technique."
I htmled it since there are some very hypercritical Texans fans here (including myself :hehe: ) and thought some would get a little hot under the collar thinking I was bashing Glenn, which I wasn't. It was all for good humor. Hey, that guy a.j. joked around in his "voice of the fan" article on the houstontexans.com site. SEE HERE
DetroitLions
Practice Squad
First off Glenn isnt even a top 20 corner, because he is over the hill... and second my point is that any shmoe can jump in and play WR, but you need ALOT of technique to play CB, hence AJ couldnt play CB...SBTexans08 said:
SBTexans08
Rookie
DetroitLions said:
Dude...you're beating yourself up for nothing. This has become a perpetual argument without importance. If it makes you feel any better........you win.
I said he's considered one of the best among many....that doesn't not mean he's in the 20, top 10, whatever number you want to put up!
TexansTrueFan
All Pro
You think Aaron Glenn isnt still a pro bowl type corner ? He's still just as quick as ya boy Roy. And i bet Williams wont burn off and get a score on A.G. Your guy plays ONE game and you think he's ready to burn the top corners in the league ? I admit he will be good but he still has a lot of learning to do ,,,,,expect him to be shut down by Glenn !
DetroitLions
Practice Squad
i never said Roy would burn Glenn... i said if AJ played CB on Roy, Roy would burn AJ... and i never said Glenn wasnt good, and Glenn probably has the leg up on Roy because of experience...but i doubt he will shut down Roy... not that this means anything, but Roy is 6 inches taller then Glenn...TexansTrueFan said:
SBTexans08
Rookie
DetroitLions said:
Size has nothing to do with it buddy. If that was the case it'd be paramount that a CB be over 6' to contend with 6' or more tall recievers.
DetroitLions
Practice Squad
im just saying, there is only 1 shutdown corner in the entire league that is under 5'10... that man is Antoine Winfield and he is borderline shutdown...SBTexans08 said:
Kingzofthejungle
Practice Squad
TexansTrueFan said:
No he is not still a Pro-Bowl Corner. And if you think that then you are really in trouble. I hope your defensive coached feel the same way and leave ROY in signle coverage against him. Glenn is on his last legs. In addition he is like 5'9 and 185. He will be overmatched by the 6,3 220 Williams. ROY is also much faster than Glenn. You guys better double him. Roy will manhandle any of your small DBs...period! And yes he is ready to burn DBs. You run the route, You see the ball, You catch the ball. It ain't that hard to do!
And for the guy that said AJ was a classy and quiet dude. Please he was a loud mouth cocky player at Miami and nothing has changed. Maybe he hasn't done anything in Texas yet, but he is far from a Choir Boy.
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SESupergenius
Guest
Vinny where did you read that? That is exactly how I saw it. Looked like were forming a diamond with Coleman being the deep man and the corners staying in zone.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
TexansTrueFan said:
That was actually a LB. It was Donnie Edwards. He was trying to pry the ball out of AJ's arms after he was on the ground. That's why AJ slapped his hand away when he wanted help to get up.
SBTexans08
Rookie
I find it rather weird how you Lions fans are really cocky for this game considering you guys caused 4 turnovers and only won by 4 points. Throw in the fact that Chicago is hurting on their secondary some and I'd say the Lions didn't do so great. Had they not won the turnover ratio you guys would have lost.
I'm not taking the Lions lightly but I'm excited about this match up...seems like you guys are taking the Texans lightly however after winning by only a 4 point margin against a team (Bears) that doesn't square up against the Texans talent wise...and somewhat on certain positions, more so on the secondary positions.
I'm not taking the Lions lightly but I'm excited about this match up...seems like you guys are taking the Texans lightly however after winning by only a 4 point margin against a team (Bears) that doesn't square up against the Texans talent wise...and somewhat on certain positions, more so on the secondary positions.
Vinny
shiny happy fan
Hey ses, it was on 610am in one of the post game shows on Monday. I don't remember if it was the Dom Capers show or the Aaron Glenn show (one or the other). If you watch the replay take a look at Brees looking left and then making the pivot to the right and throwing a strike for the TD as Coleman bit on the action on Brees's left.SESupergenius said:
Kingzofthejungle
Practice Squad
SBTexans08 said:
Actually the Bears Defense was really impressive. They have very good LBS, They have a shutdoen corner in Tillman and Mike Brown is a really good safety. Both are rated higher than any of your guys. They also have a Pro-bowl LB in Urlacher so I am not sure where you get your info from.
On offense you guys might be slightly ahead of them, but not by much. Davis is still a 2nd year player, same for AJ and Carr well he is in the same boat as Joey H. You forget you are coming to our house. We are a much better home team. Also last time I checked it doesn't matter if you win by 1 or 100 it still is a win.
Just an FYI, I think overall we are pretty even talent wise, but I don't see you guys beating us at home. We should prevail 28-14.
Alot of you guys are predicting beating us by 10-14 points. I doubt that at all maybe 2 or 3 at the most, if you win. You won't though!
DetroitLions
Practice Squad
If you havent noticed, alot of Texans fans are being very cocky themselves...... the Texans lost...... at home......... and to add insult to injury, to the chargers..... im not counting out the Texans, but on the other hand i dont count out any team... when you are the Lions you cannot afford to...SBTexans08 said:
Kingzofthejungle said:
Aaron Glenn is one injury plagued season removed from being a Pro Bowl player...check the 2002 Pro Bowl rosters...don't count one of the hardest working and smartest...not to mention most well respected by his peers...DB's in the league out....also someone in here mentioned he wasn't even in the top 20 CBs in the league anymore...I challenge someone to name me 20 CB's better than Aaron in the league.
Secondly, AJ being loud mouth and cocky....think you better check your facts Kingz my boy...AJ has always been quiet and respectful...don't let the overall reputation of the school and some of his team mates...(can you say KWII) prejudice your opinion of a very classy young man.
I going to come to Coleman's defense on this one. Brees took a 5 step drop and looked at the slant. Had Coleman not jumped on that route, Brees would have picked up another 3rd & long. Most of the time when a QB takes a 5 step drop, he has to get rid of the ball. That the QB had the time to come off that receiver, step up in the pocket, and look for Parker on the seam route is a strike against the pass rush.Vinny said:
Glenn was also in a deep zone, but had a WR outside Parker on the right. Glenn & Coleman both went with the shorter routes, the pass rush didn't get there, TD San Diego. Excellent play design that was well executed starting with a great job by the Charger O-line.
SBTexans08
Rookie
Sure the Texans lost at home but we lost bad in the turnover ratio, -4 and still only lost by 7 points. Had we not lost those (we won't next week) we would have made a blow out performance, no doubt! If we would have caused 4 turnovers on the Chargers like you guys did on the Bears.....my friend...we would have left the game 35-0!! The Texans' defense didn't do so well last week against the Chargers but I'm sure they'll go into Detroit performing in a defensive playoff performance. Last but not least, our offense is much more menacing than the Lions IMO.
TheOgre
All Pro
We are an unpredictable lot. 2002 we lost to a very bad Bengals game at home but we beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh and a decent Giants team. In 2003 we surprised the Dolphins (in Miami) in the opener, beat the Panthers, and took the Patriots to OT. We turned around and lost to the Vinny led Jets at home and were blown out by the Jags on the road.
My point is that you never know what you will get with us. It is easily conceiveable for us to lose to the Chargers and turn around and beat y'all.
My point is that you never know what you will get with us. It is easily conceiveable for us to lose to the Chargers and turn around and beat y'all.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
I recall seeing Wright covering Gates, but I never saw Glenn on him. I'm not sure where ESPN got that, but perhaps he was on him a play or two and we missed it. I saw Wong on him, but I think Brown was primarily assigned to him early on at least.
King must be channeling the wrong Miami reciever. AJ isn't like Irvin or Winslow. He barely talks above a whisper, but if you're sure it was AJ then perhaps you could find an article with one of his 'loud mouth, cocky' quotes.
As far as Roy burning Glenn you might want to rethink that. Weren't your starting corners for this year Dre Bly (5'10 185) and Fernando Bryant (5'11 175)? I know Bly is out, but are you forgetting AJ's (6'3 219) size and speed. I assume Andre Goodman(5'10 185) is starting in place of Bly. Using your logic Sam Madison, Terrance Newman, Duane Starks, and Patrick Surtain would all be getting burnt due to their lack of size. Guess that also means that small WRs like Harrison and Steve Smith must be blanketed all the time? I'm all for debating football, but at least come with some facts, and not soley homerism.
King must be channeling the wrong Miami reciever. AJ isn't like Irvin or Winslow. He barely talks above a whisper, but if you're sure it was AJ then perhaps you could find an article with one of his 'loud mouth, cocky' quotes.
As far as Roy burning Glenn you might want to rethink that. Weren't your starting corners for this year Dre Bly (5'10 185) and Fernando Bryant (5'11 175)? I know Bly is out, but are you forgetting AJ's (6'3 219) size and speed. I assume Andre Goodman(5'10 185) is starting in place of Bly. Using your logic Sam Madison, Terrance Newman, Duane Starks, and Patrick Surtain would all be getting burnt due to their lack of size. Guess that also means that small WRs like Harrison and Steve Smith must be blanketed all the time? I'm all for debating football, but at least come with some facts, and not soley homerism.
HoustonLionsFan
Waterboy
SBTexans08 said:
Actually, most educated lions fans are nervous about this one. It is like the guy above me (Ogre?) said^^^, unpredicatable. I believe most Lions fans think the Lions will pull it out only because they are at home, all the rest on the DuMB are just kids that don't know what they are talking about and just want to talk sh*t.
Kingzofthejungle
Practice Squad
HoustonLionsFan said:
Hey Houston. I am an educated Lion Fan and I am also an adult. You keep defending Lions Fans who are talking smack, well you can talk smack and be respectful in how you do it as long as we don't cross the line. I also am not really all that worried about this game. It will be very hard for the Texans to travel to Detroit, Play a non-conference fo and win this game. First we are tough to beat at home no matter how talented we may or may not be and this year we happen to have way way mre talent then in recent year when we beat teams much better than the Texans. Second of all intense purposes the Texans outplayed the Charges last week and still lost. All be it due to turnovers, but they still played well.
Everyone assumed they will play just as well just without the turnovers. I beg to differ. I think we are much better than San Diego and turnovers or not they will lose. Ford Field is a tough place to play. Also I believe our offense will be much better than last week and the D will only get better. We had alot of guys play last week who were coming off injuries and had not practiced or played much in the pre-season. Especially on D.
I think a 28-14 outcome is very realistic. Really no knock on the Texans I just think we are much more confident after all the adversity we faced last week and the home opener is always a high energy game for us.
The Texans will need alot if breaks to keep this one close.
Kingzofthejungle
Practice Squad
SBTexans08 said:
Would've, Could've, Should've.
HoustonLionsFan
Waterboy
That's why I said most. Your analysis has been very good, better than mine in many cases. I was referring mostly to the kids at the official message board that are saying Det is going to kill Houston because they lost to SD etc...without taking Hou seriouslyKingzofthejungle said:
That is why, and only why I pick the Lions in a close one.
RTP2110
All Pro
Kingzofthejungle said:
Glenn was just in the Pro-Bowl in 2002, he's been covering guys taller than him his enitre career and he's been just fine. And why do you keep trying to sell us on Roy Williams? We've watched him for the last 4 years, and you have seen him for 1 game. We know what he can do, and we know what Glenn can do. Glenn has the advantage in this match-up.