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Ricky Williams

Huge said:
Wrong, Herv.

"IMO", Wildbear is ignoring the point that Ricky made a decision that affected much more than his number of carries.

To most, it's pretty obvious why he left and why he came back. If you don't think that affects the trust of your teammates, I've got a bridge to sell you. Oh, but they've forgiven him because of his apology...yeah, you bet.

And they're not running his wheels off now because they have another option (Brown). Think Ricky would only be averaging just over 10 attempts per game now when he was averaging almost 23 a game before he left had he never left to begin with?

And unfortunately, it's not as simple as saying he can be productive. Terrell Owens was productive when he played. Do you honestly believe Ricky can be counted on more than him? What has he done since leaving college to make you believe so?

I don't hold anything against Ricky for leaving. In fact, I somewhat supported his decision to do so (look at Earl Campbell's condition now). I might've questioned some of his reasons (wanted to travel the world, smoke some weed and find inner peace) but I don't have a problem with players that hang 'em up early for the sake of whatever.

But count me out on wanting him to play for my team. There are other options that perform on his level that don't have those questions over their heads.

REGGIE BUSH!!!
 
Huge said:
And they're not running his wheels off now because they have another option (Brown). Think Ricky would only be averaging just over 10 attempts per game now when he was averaging almost 23 a game before he left had he never left to begin with?

My oh my, you are full of terrible arguements.

If he never left, Brown probably would not have been there. Now that Ricky is back, they are utilizing him to the fullest, while also taking into consideration that they need to give Brown reps. Like I said, the Fins must be truely kicking themselves to have one extremely talented rookie RB and a backup who is making the league minimum and rushing for the same numbers that he did when he was one of the better RBs in the league.

You fail to realize that he didn't ruin his career. Like I said, unless this Ricky Williams is some sort of impersonator, then I'm still seeing Ricky Williams as a professional athlete. Which was his career choice before he took a vacation. It may have affected his salary or the way his peers view him, but it certainly did not ruin his career. His numbers that you pointed out are near identical if not better than his career average if you project them out.
 
uhcougar08 said:
I know he is good, he has to be on league minimum because the NFL told him so. The original question in this post was "along with D'Brickashaw, would he help here?" You keep running around that question. He is a ******* quiter!!!!!!!!!! He is a loser!!!!!!!! He ran out on his team!!!

For the third time...

Me....once again...the very first post. said:
Hilarious how anyone can call him a cancer. Quitter? Sure. Cancer? Laughable.

Once again, you are just saying the exact same things I already said in my first reply to you.
 
WildBlackBear32 said:
My oh my, you are full of terrible arguements.

If he never left, Brown probably would not have been there. Now that Ricky is back, they are utilizing him to the fullest, while also taking into consideration that they need to give Brown reps. Like I said, the Fins must be truely kicking themselves to have one extremely talented rookie RB and a backup who is making the league minimum and rushing for the same numbers that he did when he was one of the better RBs in the league.

You fail to realize that he didn't ruin his career. Like I said, unless this Ricky Williams is some sort of impersonator, then I'm still seeing Ricky Williams as a professional athlete. Which was his career choice before he took a vacation. It may have affected his salary or the way his peers view him, but it certainly did not ruin his career. His numbers that you pointed out are near identical if not better than his career average if you project them out.
If my aunt had nuts, she'd be my uncle.

But again, continue to be shortsigted and only think it's about his production.
 
Ricky has had problems with the limelight. I think being in a system like Saban's where he is part of the solution, not the fulcrum of it, is good for him. Along those respects, having him in Houston where we already have popular players like Carr and Dre might be ideal for him.

Here's an "ideal" thought :) . We draft Bush, then take Ricky. We now have essentially what the Dolphins have, except we have Dre and Gaffney. If we kept Capers:brickwall, this could be an ideal situation. :jk:

I still don't think Ricky'd work out here...
 
Lucky said:
Ricky definately turned the Dolphins around in '04.

You could wait a long time for that 40 yard run. Ricky has 3 of them for his career and sports a whopping 4.0 ypc average (same as Davis) over 6 seasons. Williams is not a breakaway runner, and he's not a workhorse anymore since dropping 20 lbs. The myth that Ricky Williams is a special back is just that. And once you consider that the guy is one puff from a year's suspension, why bring him in?


I don't know where you got that he only has three 40 yard runs in his career. In 2001 he had a 46 yard run. In 2002 he had runs of 53, 55, and 63. In 2003 he had a 45 yard run. He has also had 4 other games where he had at least one 30 yard run. Next time you use statistics, please double check your numbers.
 
tulexan said:
I don't know where you got that he only has three 40 yard runs in his career. In 2001 he had a 46 yard run. In 2002 he had runs of 53, 55, and 63. In 2003 he had a 45 yard run. He has also had 4 other games where he had at least one 30 yard run. Next time you use statistics, please double check your numbers.
You're right, Ricky has (5) 40+ yard runs in his career, rather than 3. That's still less than 1 per season. Again, not a breakaway back.

Ricky (24) 20+ yard runs in 77 games = (1) 20+ yard run every 3.2 games
DD (11) 20+ yard runs in 38 games = (1) 20+ yard run every 3.4 games

I would never classify Davis as a breakaway back capable of ripping off long runs on a regular basis. No one should paint Williams with that brush, either.
 
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