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thunderkyss

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In your opinion, what has he done right? What has he done wrong? Why is his team currently 1-7? If you were Rex, with the benefit of hindsight, what is the one thing you would have done differently?


The "word" now is that Rex will be fired at the end of the year, do you think that's the right thing for the Jets to do, or not?
 
thunderkyss said:
In your opinion, what has he done right? What has he done wrong? Why is his team currently 1-7? If you were Rex, with the benefit of hindsight, what is the one thing you would have done differently?


The "word" now is that Rex will be fired at the end of the year, do you think that's the right thing for the Jets to do, or not?
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He has long past his due date. He was a brilliant hire off the top, and was perfect to handle the stress of the NY media...

But he simply has no clue how to deal with a team's offensive issues, and made bad hires on that side. I think he's also enjoyed being a sideshow the last 2 years...and IMO that's not how a champion is built.

He will make a hell of a DC should he decide to go back to that, but I doubt his ego, which is both a strength and weakness, will let him do so...
 
Front office missed on 2 QBs, did not support those QBs with surrounding cast, missed on too many draft picks. I'd keep Rex and fire Idzik and all of the scouts and try to hire a better GM to rebuild the organization from the ground up.

If they can him, I'd love to have him here as DC but am pretty sure there's no way OB would do that... could be Round 2 of Houston football sidelines Box-O-Rama.
 
Playoffs said:
Front office missed on 2 QBs, did not support those QBs with surrounding cast, missed on too many draft picks. I'd keep Rex and fire Idzik and all of the scouts and try to hire a better GM to rebuild the organization from the ground up.

If they can him, I'd love to have him here as DC but am pretty sure there's no way OB would do that... could be Round 2 of Houston football sidelines Box-O-Rama.
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I agree with you on Idzik. They've screwed the pooch when it comes to personnel.

I'm not really a fan of the Ryan defenses these days. Especially Rob Ryans D. Rex is the better of the two
 
Playoffs said:
Front office missed on 2 QBs, did not support those QBs with surrounding cast, missed on too many draft picks. I'd keep Rex and fire Idzik and all of the scouts and try to hire a better GM to rebuild the organization from the ground up.

If they can him, I'd love to have him here as DC but am pretty sure there's no way OB would do that... could be Round 2 of Houston football sidelines Box-O-Rama.
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I'd get rid of both Idzik and Ryan. Part of that is simply a business move because you've got a fan base to think about. Part of that is that I honestly believe Rex doesn't really care much about the offense, and as such everything about it suffers. Player evaluation, player development, coaching hires, and obviously offensive scheme. This is true now, but it was also true before Idzik was there. I don't think keeping Rex and getting rid of Idzik does anything to change this - quite the opposite - it tells Rex to keep doing what he's doing because he's not the problem.

Besides, when Idzik was hired, he wasn't allowed to bring in his own coach because they wanted to keep Rex. That didn't work out at all, and I think it would be ridiculous to bring in another GM just to tie his hands in exactly the same way.
 
infantrycak said:
Why? His teams have been bottom have of the league in scoring defense the last 4 years.
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Mostly based on his track record as a DC and because of how great his defenses looked when he first went to the Jets. I dont think its too silly of a proposition to want him, although I do like what Crennel has done here.

I would want O'Brien to hire an o-coordinator first before switching out DC's but I wouldn't be upset at all if he was on the Texans staff. Added benefit of O'Brien could let Rex do the press conferences to really let local fans and media heads explode.
 
b0ng said:
Mostly based on his track record as a DC and because of how great his defenses looked when he first went to the Jets. I dont think its too silly of a proposition to want him, although I do like what Crennel has done here.

I would want O'Brien to hire an o-coordinator first before switching out DC's but I wouldn't be upset at all if he was on the Texans staff. Added benefit of O'Brien could let Rex do the press conferences to really let local fans and media heads explode.
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I'm not totally running him down but I just don't get the urge currently. If it was an alternative to Bush, sure. Not seeing the upgrade on Crennel.
 
b0ng said:
Mostly based on his track record as a DC and because of how great his defenses looked when he first went to the Jets. I dont think its too silly of a proposition to want him, although I do like what Crennel has done here.

I would want O'Brien to hire an o-coordinator first before switching out DC's but I wouldn't be upset at all if he was on the Texans staff. Added benefit of O'Brien could let Rex do the press conferences to really let local fans and media heads explode.
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I really wonder if Rex would consider a coordinator position. Even if he didn't get another HC offer right away (which he very will might), I think the networks would be lined up to get him, and something tells me Rex would much rather be a full-time talking head than a DC again.

I would think there's a pretty good chance we'll find out, as I can't see him back with the Jets in 2015.
 
I never liked Rex Ryan as a head coach. He's all about making big promises and talking big. That's great when you first go in but no one could have lived up to the promises his mouth was making.

The players love playing for a coach who's cocky. At first. And then the whole schtick wears thin and it all becomes a big circus.

He had success with a team that other people built but as time went on and he was able to put more of his "stamp" on it, you began to see the flaws and the whole thing melted down and evaporated.

At the beginning of his tenure, he over-drafted a QB, something a lot of people are wishing that OB had done, but something that rarely works out. But it's not like he's drafted well when he wasn't over-drafting QBs. He and his GM have spent a lot of coin on the defensive side of the ball and it just has not worked out.

He hasn't done very well on the Oline or in getting skill players, either. So it's just been a steady decline from the ManGenius days.
 
infantrycak said:
I'm not totally running him down but I just don't get the urge currently. If it was an alternative to Bush, sure. Not seeing the upgrade on Crennel.
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Eh, its tough to speculate, he could easily thrive with a change of scenery/responsibilities and it's not like a step down from head coaching hasnt revitalized careers before.

I'm not tryin to be Rex's hype man, because i do like what Crennel has done here, but schemes can get stale pretty quickly in the NFL, as well as coordinators can get poached for promotion. He could probably wizard up more of a pass rush than "JJ Watt and thats it" but again, Crennel has done fine work here in his first season and will probably not be asked to leave or get any offers to HC anywhere in the NFL, so I think this whole conversation is more theoretical than anything else.
 
The Jets need to fire that GM at the end of this season. Then let the new GM decide if he wants Rex or someone else. They have problems higher up the food chain than HC.

Rex does have two significant problems as a head coach:

1. He doesn't have enough of an offensive acumen, so he either stays out of it and is totally dependent on his offensive staff or he gets involved and mucks things up. If he hired good coaches the decision would be easy, but he hasn't.

2. He is too devoted to his defensive scheme. The game has changed and he hasn't changed with it. I think the 34 has quickly become an outdated scheme, and the NFL seems to mostly agree with me since the majority of 34 teams don't even use it 50% of the time. In today's game I think you can get away with a 3-3-5 depending on your personnel, but they don't have the personnel to effectively run it.

You can change your scheme to fit your players or you can get players that fit your scheme. They aren't doing either, but that's also a GM problem.
 
The one thing that appears clear for the Jets is that they very likely will be in line for one of the top QBs in the next draft, which will set the table for Ryan's successor.

I suspect a full housecleaning of GM and coach there.
 
He has built a brilliant front seven in NY but he is at least somewhat culpable in the team's inability to shore up the secondary or identify offensive talent. The GM has not done a good job IMO, but the Jets have appeared to be on a downhill slope ever since Ryan was hired.
 
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Front office missed on 2 QBs, did not support those QBs with surrounding cast, missed on too many draft picks. I'd keep Rex and fire Idzik and all of the scouts and try to hire a better GM to rebuild the organization from the ground up.

If they can him, I'd love to have him here as DC but am pretty sure there's no way OB would do that... could be Round 2 of Houston football sidelines Box-O-Rama.
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This is what happens when you hire a cap guy to make football decisions. Idzik
 
WolverineFan said:
He has built a brilliant front seven in NY but he is at least somewhat culpable in the team's inability to shore up the secondary or identify offensive talent. The GM has not done a good job IMO, but the Jets have appeared to be on a downhill slope ever since Ryan was hired.
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The two AFC Championship appearances let this float for a while and for him to maintain security, but last year and this start have completely eroded that.
 
I guess its time to hit the reset Button something we should of done we only hit the standbye button by not firing rick smith
 
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