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- Thread starter gary
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amazing80
Hall of Fame
Why not, its not like we actually CONTROL ANYTHING. If he gets hurt so be it, if fans WANT him to get hurt, so be it. At the end of the day he still sucks.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Agree i never wish injury on anyone, as i believe in bad karma, but i do however wish for a QB change regardless of how we get it.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
Gary, it's getting out of control but I don't blame people. I was one of Matt Schaub's biggest supporters and probably the most positive person on the board. And even I'm ready to see a quarterback change.
WolverineFan
Hall of Fame
I don't think guys are actually wishing harm on Schaub. They just know that we need a QB change and Kubiak is not going to make a change unless that happens.
Where's this coming from gary? I haven't seen anyone seriously hope for Matt to get injured.
I'm hoping he comes down with the flu..... correction, I'm hoping the coaching staff says he came down with a case of the flu for next weeks game. Or maybe even a case of turf toe.... I think most of us can believe that, he played the second half of the tampa game with a broke foot a couple of years ago.
gary
Hall of Fame
:vincepalm:
TejasTom
All Pro
I think you have to move to pull a hammy.
gary
Hall of Fame
Not my point though. I do not see thread anymore.
EllisUnit
Vote RED!!!
Would be the slowest moving hammy pull in human history, then atleast schaub would be in the history books unless his 3 pick 6s have already put him there.
How about he had to miss the game because his wife's sister's best friends baby daddy's girlfriend was about to have her 12th baby.
Very important for Schaub to make that right?
BullNation4Life
All Pro
Look, I never want to wish a guy to go down, I just don't need that karma. BUT, say if Watt so happens to trip in the walk through this week and Schaub takes a vicious shot to the nad-sack and has to miss this week against the 49ers....
I'm not gonna lose sleep over it....
I'm not gonna lose sleep over it....
Hervoyel
BUENO!
That's where I'm coming from. I'm not hoping he gets hurt. I'm saying that I need to see this man sit down and stop attempting to play QB for my team and I know that the only way that will happen (knowing Kubiak) is if he's injured.
I'd be perfectly happy with a bout of upset stomach brought about by gas station sushi (seemed like a good idea at the time....) if it would put this guy on the bench long enough to see if Yates or Keenum gives us a spark.
Pollardized
Division Champ
I'm thinking maybe Matt already goes down. Would definitely explain how he has kept his job as an NFL quarterback this long....
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Schaub's already been playing injured.........evidently, just not enough for stubborn Kubiak to admit it and go to another option.
utahmark
markbeth
SchaubApologist
Waterboy
haha, i don't want schaub hurt...
but, i want him to keep playing so we'll have a good enough draft pick to snag a real franchise qb.
in other words, schaub gives us our best chance at obtaining a franchise qb.
in other words in other words, schaub is the 3rd best QB on the roster.
handswarmer
Rookie
Any fan wishing his teams player or any other teams player, to get hurt is a d****ebag.
revoke their fandom...end of story
revoke their fandom...end of story
Honestly I don't think Schaub would be in the league at this point in his career if it werent' for Kubiak. Kubiak has made an average QB look at times like a top 15 QB. I don't think he'd be doing that for too many other coaches.
That said, Schaub is showing his ceiling and it is happening not against the Jaguars' of the league but the playoff bound teams. Schaub has done well, but I think his best days are behind him. We need to be looking elsewhere.
That said, I don't wish any harm to the guy. He needs to at the least get benched when he makes big mistakes and put someone else in.
That said, Schaub is showing his ceiling and it is happening not against the Jaguars' of the league but the playoff bound teams. Schaub has done well, but I think his best days are behind him. We need to be looking elsewhere.
That said, I don't wish any harm to the guy. He needs to at the least get benched when he makes big mistakes and put someone else in.
Do you still think it from the Lis Franc injury? I've been watching him pretty closely and he's throwing off his back foot a lot. You think it's due to not being able to comfortably bend his right foot and step into the throw?
gary
Hall of Fame
Mature post this is.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I've been trying to point that out all along. For those that have thrown out that he could also have a mysterious shoulder injury causing his weak and aberrant throws.......that makes no sense......If a QB has a shoulder or arm problem, he will try to push off that back foot that much harder to compensate for his weakened throws. Schaub threw off of his back foot the entire end of last season and, after a rest in the offseason/preseason, has quickly eased into throwing off his back foot more and more each game. Today, he almost "lived" on his back foot. Yes, having taken care of quite a few surgically-repaired Lisfranc injuries, I have no doubt that the Lisfranc is haunting him.
I've been trying to point that out all along. For those that have thrown out that he could also have a mysterious shoulder injury causing his weak and aberrant throws.......that makes no sense......If a QB has a shoulder or arm problem, he will try to push off that back foot that much harder to compensate for his weakened throws. Schaub threw off of his back foot the entire end of last season and, after a rest in the offseason/preseason, has quickly eased into throwing off his back foot more and more each game. Today, he almost "lived" on his back foot. Yes, having taken care of quite a few surgically-repaired Lisfranc injuries, I have no doubt that the Lisfranc is haunting him.
That bone should have been healed by now. If it is currently causing him trouble, is it soft tissue damage or is there actual re-injury to the bone? If he is putting more weight on his back leg on his throws this could very well explain his latest inaccuracies dating back to late last season...
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The bone can and probably is well-healed. Chronic arthritis is not unusual following this injury. And post repair chronic pain and stiffness are both extremely common in Lisfranc fractures.
& he practically carved up the best secondary in the league like a Thanksgiving Day Turducken.
Until they figured out how to pressure him. Then he was carved up like a Thanksgiving Turkey. Some teams make good half time adjustments. The Texans usually aren't that team when they have a half time lead.
That's not the point. If he threw for 300+ yards on a team that's only allowed 246 yards total through three games, off his backfoot that's pretty impressive. They allowed 9 points per game over the first three games, off his back foot, Schaub threw 2 TDs on them before the half.
I'm just not buying the foot being an excuse..... folding under pressure is damning enough.
While also throwing 2 picks.
As long as you're beginning to understand that Schaub is the sickness, it's all OK. It's not the stats, it's the score. Schaub is continually helping the other team's score. And hurting his own teams score.
I'm watching him in the first half again & he's doing everything we want him to do. He's stepping into his throws, fully turning his hips, putting all his weight on that front foot on almost every throw. There's a couple where he's backpedalling or trying to scramble where his feet aren't set, but he's getting good hip rotation on every throw.
The first INT, good rotation, all on his front foot.
I wonder if there's anything to be said about Owen Daniels being his target on three of the INTs I can think of. Both today, one last week.
SchaubApologist
Waterboy
Go ahead and fast forward to the 2nd half....
I can't, my satellite dropped the signal.
The LisFranc is not a bone. It's a ligament. And the doctor told me after he surgically reconstructed my Lisfranc injury, that it would heal, but it wouldn't be the same foot again. I've been watching him closely. As long as he can drop back and get set, he can throw accurately, but when he has to move . . .
But having said that, I don't think it's been all that different from before his LisFranc. He's not a mobile quarterback now, and he never has been one.
I saw several backfoot throws in the 1st half. Every one one of them were with some kind of pressure, iirc. Interesting.
Schaub throwing INT's when targeting a particular receiver would lend credence to my opinion that Schaub misses wide open receivers while locking on to his security blankets.
I'm going through now, watching every throw. I'm at the 1:03 mark in the third. This is pretty much what I've seen. When he's on the move it's like he doesn't even bother trying to set his feet. He's more apt to throw it with neither foot on the ground as he is to throw it off his back foot.
This is all I can see now. Lost my signal after this point, but Schaub looks healthy. There's got to be another reason for his poor play.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
When he's moving, the reason he doesn't SET, is because he has to put even more stress on that foot just to go from moving to abruptly stopping and setting.