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[Pick 174]Garrett Wallow LB TCU

House of Pain

May never see it
John Harris on the radio is citing that NC talked about the number of the players on the roster last night after they had their 2 picks. They have approximately 80 players on the roster before the picks today. Assuming they pick 2 times in the 5th, once in the 6th and 7th, that's going to leave 6 spots to get to 90 players. You know they are going to bring in some UDFAs so maybe they don't want to draft players that they are going to have to potentially cut.
 

powda

Guard your tongue before it digs your grave.
Finally a defensive pick. At least it wasn't another te.
 

ArlingtonTexan

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2 hours ago · The Los Angeles Rams have traded down, sending the 170th overall pick (Round 5) in the 2021 NFL Draft to the Houston Texans in exchange for the 174th overall pick (Round 5) and 233rd overall pick (Round 7). The Los Angeles Rams have selected University of Central Florida tight end Jacob Harris with ..
 

Corrosion

Idealist
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I like the dude as a football player .... I just don't know where they are gonna play him at ~220lbs.
Not sure he has the speed to play safety and is kinda light in the ass to play inside LBer in the NFL.
 

Lucky

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I like the dude as a football player .... I just don't know where they are gonna play him at ~220lbs.
Not sure he has the speed to play safety and is kinda light in the ass to play inside LBer in the NFL.
Nickel LB is a position. Teams are in Nickel over 60% of the time.
 

Lucky

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John Harris on the radio is citing that NC talked about the number of the players on the roster last night after they had their 2 picks. They have approximately 80 players on the roster before the picks today. Assuming they pick 2 times in the 5th, once in the 6th and 7th, that's going to leave 6 spots to get to 90 players. You know they are going to bring in some UDFAs so maybe they don't want to draft players that they are going to have to potentially cut.
Exactly why I thought Caserio signed too many back end vets. Should have left more room for rookies.
 

Lucky

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So you would rather have a bunch of back ended rookies verses proven players who can play right away?
Yes. Absolutely, yes. The Texans need to look to develop talent for the future. Not waste time on 1 year contract vets that will never amount to anything.

And, you're using "proven" very loosely. The only thing most of these guys have proven is that they can't hack it as a regular.
 

JB

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2 hours ago · The Los Angeles Rams have traded down, sending the 170th overall pick (Round 5) in the 2021 NFL Draft to the Houston Texans in exchange for the 174th overall pick (Round 5) and 233rd overall pick (Round 7). The Los Angeles Rams have selected University of Central Florida tight end Jacob Harris with ..
Exactly!
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
Yes. Absolutely, yes. The Texans need to look to develop talent for the future. Not waste time on 1 year contract vets that will never amount to anything.

And, you're using "proven" very loosely. The only thing most of these guys have proven is that they can't hack it as a regular.

Most of those late rounders won't make the team. And most of those 1 year contract guys won't make it either.

I see if we had a couple first rounders and second rounders. But 5 on down , their chances of making this team is very slim.

So it looks like they want players who can play right now. Not 2 or 3 years down the line.

And the guys I'm talking about actually started or played decent minutes for other teams.
 

welsh texan

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Exactly why I thought Caserio signed too many back end vets. Should have left more room for rookies.
Wouldn’t it have created far more value in the long term to have traded these picks away for next years draft, could have packaged something towards a 3rd or 4th rounder next year instead of this.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
I like the player especially at this point in the draft. Athletic and instinctive with good tackling fundamentals. Undersized sure but former HOF LB Derrick Brooks who Lovie coached in Tampa was 6’ 229 when he was drafted.

Not at all saying Wallow is the same caliber of player. Just that his size is minimized as a projected WILL in Lovie’s scheme. He’s a good fit for the type of LB this team needs. His floor is a special teams stud but he has starting potential.
 

Texansphan

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Wouldn’t it have created far more value in the long term to have traded these picks away for next years draft, could have packaged something towards a 3rd or 4th rounder next year instead of this.
Meh, they're going to get plenty of draft capital out of Watson.
Pick a handful of high ceiling guys this draft to develop and keep an eye on cuts and practice squads.
About all the Texans could do with the scrawny resources they had on hand.
 

Number19

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The two additional players added last year had to be offensive linemen, if I remember correctly. Later today I'll try to find if this was a one year exception due to Covid and/or if the league will revert back to 53.
 

Texansphan

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I like the dude as a football player .... I just don't know where they are gonna play him at ~220lbs.
Not sure he has the speed to play safety and is kinda light in the ass to play inside LBer in the NFL.
I wouldn't get too hung up on the weight - he was effective in college and can put on some muscle under a professional conditioning program.
Some sites have him listed at 230 if that makes you feel better.
He is a defensive and team leader with a good mind for defense.
 

Dejaview

Veteran
I like the player especially at this point in the draft. Athletic and instinctive with good tackling fundamentals. Undersized sure but former HOF LB Derrick Brooks who Lovie coached in Tampa was 6’ 229 when he was drafted.

Not at all saying Wallow is the same caliber of player. Just that his size is minimized as a projected WILL in Lovie’s scheme. He’s a good fit for the type of LB this team needs. His floor is a special teams stud but he has starting potential.
Was Sam mills even 5’10”?
 

Number19

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ArlingtonTexan

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Last year it was increased to 55. Has it dropped back to 53 for this coming season?
55 included two added to the 53 from the practice squad during any given week, so I didn't want to double count.

And there will be more players to do so with. Though the roster limit will continue to be 53 for 2020, two players from the practice squad may be brought up to increase roster sizes to 55 on gameday, with those two players reverting back to the practice squad after gameday. Practice squads will also be increased in size from 10 players to 12 beginning this season.
Active gameday rosters will also grow from 46 to 48, provided one of those extra players activated is an offensive lineman.
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welsh texan

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I wouldn't get too hung up on the weight - he was effective in college and can put on some muscle under a professional conditioning program.
Some sites have him listed at 230 if that makes you feel better.
He is a defensive and team leader with a good mind for defense.
Also not to forget that Tampa 2 utilises MLB to drop back with the Safeties when the read is pass so he could really suit what Lovie wants to do with his D.
 
Wouldn’t it have created far more value in the long term to have traded these picks away for next years draft, could have packaged something towards a 3rd or 4th rounder next year instead of this.
Yes it would have been, but we know it takes 2 to tango. The Texans would have to have known a player that a particular team was coveting to make it work...kinda tough to push for that at the back end of the 5th round.
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
He’s a good open field tackler, very instinctive..very good at squaring guys up in limited space..but leaves his feet a little too early sometimes which causes him to have those tackles where his legs/body swing wildly around from the momentum and he’s basically arm tackling. Like Cunningham, he was able to get away with making a crap ton of tackles that way in college, but pro RB & skill position players in the NFL will run thru those rather easily.

Floor: Jack Del Rio, Ron Rivera....Kiko Alonso
Ceiling: taller version of Zach Thomas
 

OptimisticTexan

2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
He’s a good open field tackler, very instinctive..very good at squaring guys up in limited space..but leaves his feet a little too early sometimes which causes him to have those tackles where his legs/body swing wildly around from the momentum and he’s basically arm tackling. Like Cunningham, he was able to get away with making a crap ton of tackles that way in college, but pro RB & skill position players in the NFL will run thru those rather easily.

Floor: Jack Del Rio, Ron Rivera....Kiko Alonso
Ceiling: taller version of Zach Thomas
He's got the desire to hit and tackle hard.....cleaning up the loose ends is much easier when the desire is already there.
 

Speedy

Former Yeller Dweller
Screams special teams and depth @ Safety to play a lot of zone. I don’t hate the pick at all, intel suggested he would not be there for them, they had conviction so moved up. I would rather sacrifice extra pick to lock down someone I know who will make the roster.
Thing is, and I have no idea of the validity of it, but I've heard the Texans moved up to get Nate Hobbs, who the Raiders took 3 picks ahead of them. Or, what would have been 7 picks from where they 1st moved up to at 174. They made that move way early BTW. I'm thinking that's why they moved up again, so that they would at least get Wallow, when Hobbs was taken.

I don't know if that explains why they moved up twice or not, but if so, that wasn't played very well at all by Caserio.
 

Mr teX

Hall of Fame
Thing is, and I have no idea of the validity of it, but I've heard the Texans moved up to get Nate Hobbs, who the Raiders took 3 picks ahead of them. Or, what would have been 7 picks from where they 1st moved up to at 174. They made that move way early BTW. I'm thinking that's why they moved up again, so that they would at least get Wallow, when Hobbs was taken.

I don't know if that explains why they moved up twice or not, but if so, that wasn't played very well at all by Caserio.
they were talking about this on 97.5 the day after and they don’t have any “evidence” that we were targeting Nate Hobbs other than he played for Lovie at Illinois. Aside from that, there had been a run on DB’s the previous 4 picks before Hobbs was selected and Hobbs wasn’t even the 1st cb taken in the round or in the midst of that DB run. So sure, they may have moved up targeting Hobbs but I don’t think they thought any more of him as a prospect than they do Wallow b/c if they did, they could’ve selected him where they selected Jordan earlier in the same round. I think they just wanted a CB and Hobbs was the best left..but again prospect for prospect they probably viewed he and Wallow about the same.

its more likely that Hobbs along with Wallow and several other prospects were in a group of similarly rated players and they wanted to ensure they got a shot at getting 1 of them....but then saw that that group was coming off the board faster than they anticipated (DB run), so they moved up again.

Also due to the run on DB’s they probably felt like they had to make a move up quickly to have a shot at all.
 
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banned1976

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“There’s really not much to write home about…” describes the Texans in a nutshell. An “old” team comprised mainly of mediocre rentals that will likely be traded in next year for a different round of rentals until they get younger, “home grown” talent. Hopefully, Wallow will be one of the few young guys that sticks. Like Mills, I think Wallow will be given a lot of rope since he was a Caserio pick.
 


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