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[Pick 147] Brevin Jordan, TE, Miami

badboy

Hall of Fame
We now got an offense that will score billions of points and we still got four draft choices left to build the defense. What's with all the negativity?
The negativity I have is because we did not need a tight end.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
There’s not a better theme in football the last 10-15 years than a team making it to (or winning) the SB and having an elite TE. You have almost zero chance of becoming one of those teams unless you draft one and hope you hit on one.
If I were going to list priority positions to get to the Super Bowl I think tight end would be fairly far down the list.
 

SnakeEyes

Under NRG
Caserio has said over and over he wants competition in training camp. If you look at our TE's, Auclair, Brown, Izzo and Warring are all about 6'-5" and 255 lbs +/-. Akins is 6'-4" and about 240 lbs. Jordan is 6'-3" and about 245 lbs. The four are TE's. Atkins and Jordan more fit the mold of an H-back.
Jordan is 6' 2 1/2 and 220. Meanwhile, our rookie WR is 6' 4" and 215... I see him as an H-Back no question
 

76Texan

Hall of Fame
Brevin looks like a guy with good football IQ. He knows how to look at the coverage to decide how and when to get to the open spot.
He's a willing blocker (though like any other player, he needs to work on it to make it in the NFL).
He's versatile (most likely because of his football IQ) and can line up at any spot (except as a lineman, of course)
This pick looks fine to me from a value perspective.

I'm not sure if he can become a good NFL TE or not, but IMO, he's a good prospect to have.
 

Texansphan

All Pro
If I were going to list priority positions to get to the Super Bowl I think tight end would be fairly far down the list.
TE is a QBs best friend.
Caserio absolutely did the right thing here as 2 of our TEs are going to be free agents after this season anyway.
Harris had him ranked 37th overall and Dan Brugler had him around 100th so he was pretty much BPA as well.
This kid has a real chance of making the squad as a contributor day 1.
 

Dejaview

Veteran
TE is a QBs best friend.
Caserio absolutely did the right thing here as 2 of our TEs are going to be free agents after this season anyway.
Harris had him ranked 37th overall and Dan Brugler had him around 100th so he was pretty much BPA as well.
This kid has a real chance of making the squad as a contributor day 1.
If Warring can stay healthy they could create some mismatches with their speed.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
John Harris had Brevin Jordan at 37 in his final version of Harris 100 (33 in version 1 prior to pro day). His write up below:


37 | Brevin Jordan
Tight End, Miami
Height: 6 ft. 2 5/8 in. | Weight: 247 lbs.
Hand: 9 3/4 | Arm: 32 7/8 | Wing: 79 1/4
40-yard Dash: 4.64 | Bench Press: 17 | Vertical Jump: 31 | Broad Jump: 9-8
The former Bishop Gorman HS (NV) star decided to move across the country to Coral Gables for his college career and he was a star. He was 1st team All-ACC after catching 35 passes for 495 yards and two touchdowns in just ten games in 2019. He also was one of the three Mackey Award (nation's best tight end) finalists last year in just his second year on campus. In 2020, his final season on campus, he was 2nd team All-ACC and a Mackey Award semifinalist after catching 38 passes for 576 yards and seven touchdowns. Knowing how productive he was as a receiver, I initially thought that he would be earmarked to be a F-TE, in other words, a pass catching tight end or big receiver. But, Jordan is a much more accomplished blocker than a good number of tight ends in this, or any, draft class. Now, he's not Tommy Tremble (Notre Dame), but he can more than hold his own as an in-line blocker. Case in point, 4th and one, Miami ahead 7-3 against Florida State near the end of the first quarter. Jordan was aligned at an in-line spot with Florida State defensive tackle Cory Durden in a five technique (inside of Jordan). On the snap, Jordan shot into Durden and turned him outside, staying on the block until Cam'ron Harris snuck inside of him for a two yard gain and a first down. I'm not really doing the block justice because if Jordan doesn't make that block, Harris is stuffed, Florida State takes over and who knows what happens after that? But, Jordan made one heck of a block that moved Durden off the ball and, wouldn't you know, Harris scored on the next play. Other than Tremble, there aren't any other tight ends in this class making that block. As a receiver, though, he's a threat all over the field. He runs speed outs like a slot receiver. He's an ultra-dangerous seam threat. He can run double moves - stick nods, sluggos. He's a matchup nightmare really and he's a pain in the you-know-what to tackle once he's got the ball in his hands. I had an expectation of what I was going to find when I dove into the film and Jordan proved to me that he has all-around skills to play on all three downs anywhere a "tight end" is asked to line up. As an opposing defensive coordinator, I wouldn't even treat him as a tight end because of his receiving acumen/athleticism. Quite frankly, with Jordan on the field, the question of 11 personnel v. 10 personnel is a valid one and, as such, his presence creates issues for opposing defenses because of his blocking ability in the run game.
 
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Texansphan

All Pro
John Harris had Brevin Jordan at 37 in his final version of Harris 100 (33 in version 1 prior to pro day). His write up below:


37 | Brevin Jordan
Tight End, Miami
Height: 6 ft. 2 5/8 in. | Weight: 247 lbs.
Hand: 9 3/4 | Arm: 32 7/8 | Wing: 79 1/4
40-yard Dash: 4.64 | Bench Press: 17 | Vertical Jump: 31 | Broad Jump: 9-8
The former Bishop Gorman HS (NV) star decided to move across the country to Coral Gables for his college career and he was a star. He was 1st team All-ACC after catching 35 passes for 495 yards and two touchdowns in just ten games in 2019. He also was one of the three Mackey Award (nation's best tight end) finalists last year in just his second year on campus. In 2020, his final season on campus, he was 2nd team All-ACC and a Mackey Award semifinalist after catching 38 passes for 576 yards and seven touchdowns. Knowing how productive he was as a receiver, I initially thought that he would be earmarked to be a F-TE, in other words, a pass catching tight end or big receiver. But, Jordan is a much more accomplished blocker than a good number of tight ends in this, or any, draft class. Now, he's not Tommy Tremble (Notre Dame), but he can more than hold his own as an in-line blocker. Case in point, 4th and one, Miami ahead 7-3 against Florida State near the end of the first quarter. Jordan was aligned at an in-line spot with Florida State defensive tackle Cory Durden in a five technique (inside of Jordan). On the snap, Jordan shot into Durden and turned him outside, staying on the block until Cam'ron Harris snuck inside of him for a two yard gain and a first down. I'm not really doing the block justice because if Jordan doesn't make that block, Harris is stuffed, Florida State takes over and who knows what happens after that? But, Jordan made one heck of a block that moved Durden off the ball and, wouldn't you know, Harris scored on the next play. Other than Tremble, there aren't any other tight ends in this class making that block. As a receiver, though, he's a threat all over the field. He runs speed outs like a slot receiver. He's an ultra-dangerous seam threat. He can run double moves - stick nods, sluggos. He's a matchup nightmare really and he's a pain in the you-know-what to tackle once he's got the ball in his hands. I had an expectation of what I was going to find when I dove into the film and Jordan proved to me that he has all-around skills to play on all three downs anywhere a "tight end" is asked to line up. As an opposing defensive coordinator, I wouldn't even treat him as a tight end because of his receiving acumen/athleticism. Quite frankly, with Jordan on the field, the question of 11 personnel v. 10 personnel is a valid one and, as such, his presence creates issues for opposing defenses because of his blocking ability in the run game.The former Bishop Gorman HS (NV) star decided to move across the country to Coral Gables for his college career and he was a star. He was 1st team All-ACC after catching 35 passes for 495 yards and two touchdowns in just ten games in 2019. He also was one of the three Mackey Award (nation's best tight end) finalists last year in just his second year on campus. In 2020, his final season on campus, he was 2nd team All-ACC and a Mackey Award semifinalist after catching 38 passes for 576 yards and seven touchdowns.

Knowing how productive he was as a receiver, I initially thought that he would be earmarked to be a F-TE, in other words, a pass-catching tight end or big receiver. However, Jordan is a much more accomplished blocker than a good number of tight ends in this, or any, draft class. Now, he's not Tommy Tremble (Notre Dame), but he can more than hold his own as an in-line blocker. Case in point, 4th and one, Miami ahead 7-3 against Florida State near the end of the first quarter. Jordan was aligned at an in-line spot with Florida State defensive tackle Cory Durden in a five technique (inside of Jordan). On the snap, Jordan shot into Durden and turned him outside, staying on the block until Cam'ron Harris snuck inside of him for a two yard gain and a first down. I'm not really doing the block justice because if Jordan doesn't make that block, Harris is stuffed, Florida State takes over and who knows what happens after that? Jordan made one heck of a block that moved Durden off the ball and, wouldn't you know, Harris scored on the next play. Other than Tremble, there aren't any other tight ends in this class making that block.
As a receiver, though, he's a threat all over the field. He runs speed outs like a slot receiver. He's an ultra-dangerous seam threat. He can run double moves - stick nods, sluggos, you name it. He's a matchup nightmare really and he's a pain in the you-know-what to tackle once he's got the ball in his hands. I had an expectation of what I was going to find when I dove into the film and Jordan proved to me that he has all-around skills to play on all three downs anywhere a "tight end" is asked to line up. As an opposing defensive coordinator, I wouldn't even treat him as a tight end because of his receiving acumen/athleticism. Quite frankly, with Jordan on the field, the question of 11 personnel v. 10 personnel is a valid one and, as such, his presence creates issues for opposing defenses because of his blocking ability in the run game.
Big knock on him is his maturity.
Hopefully he will find a friend and mentor quickly here and learns to listen to sound advice.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
You would think but think about all the teams that torch us historically and think of guys like Dallas Clark, Gronkowski, that little ***** Kelce or that murderous pieceashit Hernandez.
I understand that teams with great TEs have beaten Texans but still would not list TE as a high priority position. QB, LT, Corner (probably two), WR (probably two) Edge rusher, RT, a Nose tackle when we were in 3-4 and a RB all come before a TE --on my list and maybe a safety.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
And yet it seems the Super Bowl participants typically have stud TEs the last several years...
okay sure but what other positions do they have a stud at? Again, I'm not saying a stud at any position isn't important just do not see it on Houston. Also selecting another tight end when we have at least two in Cooper and Jordan seemed bad move to me.
 

badboy

Hall of Fame
TE is a QBs best friend.
Caserio absolutely did the right thing here as 2 of our TEs are going to be free agents after this season anyway.
Harris had him ranked 37th overall and Dan Brugler had him around 100th so he was pretty much BPA as well.
This kid has a real chance of making the squad as a contributor day 1.
100 percent disagree. LT and probably right tackle, a running back and WR. I would not have taken any TE over Andre Johnson or Hopkins and both were known for bailing out our QB(s).

Pharoah Brown who looked very good in 2020 two TDs 14/163 at 12 per has a cap of less than $1.5 million with the half mill in per game bonus. He can be resigned quite easily at team friendly extension.

Brevin Jordan may have been ranked around 100 (Harris with standing) but he wasn't selected until 147.

Enjoy the discussion!
 

Dakota

Ticketbooth Attendant
I understand that teams with great TEs have beaten Texans but still would not list TE as a high priority position. QB, LT, Corner (probably two), WR (probably two) Edge rusher, RT, a Nose tackle when we were in 3-4 and a RB all come before a TE --on my list and maybe a safety.
Teams with great TE's seem to win Superbowls - at least that's the case over the last decade with Gronk, Kelce, Ertz... Might not be a high priority position to you, but teams seem to benefit greatly when they have an elite one.
 

Double Barrel

Admin
Staff member
Contributor's Club
Contrary to the idiom we all grew up with, defenses don’t win championships in this modern era of insanely productive offenses. GM’s know this.
I agree completely, and even argued the point back in 2016.

I'm confused. Who are these great TEs on the Texans roster? This was a need* position.

*The Texans need players at every position.
Yep. BPA strategy would have filled a need at every position.

I'm thinking he's actually more worried about the offense this year than he is the defense. The reality is we don't know what we have on defense even before all the signings because that defense quit by game 5 of the season. The only one still trying was JJ but he was a shell of his former self and was trying to play like it was 2014 again.

My theory is they are loading up the offense with what they can, see what Lovie can do with the current defense and then in 2022 draft heavy D when they have some early picks to get guys that will actually move the needle.
I like it. Building a functioning offense takes longer than building a solid defense, so I'm glad they are starting to build on the foundation. 2021 will be interesting to watch just for the changes and styles of offensive schemes, regardless if this team can consistently win games or not.

I know they "play to win the games", but if we're honest with ourselves and this rebuild, we know immediate gratification in 2021 is most likely a fool's errand. Instead, just enjoy the process and hope for the best, IMO.
 

Speedy

Former Yeller Dweller
I'll believe it when I see it. How many times have we been fooled by TEs in training camp?
What they do in shorts against each other, doesn't really do anything for me. Until they do something in pads against someone in a different color jersey, it doesn't mean much. Last year in camp John Reid was supposedly turning heads. He ended up barely seeing the field on one of the worst secondaries in football.
 


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