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CloakNNNdagger

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Anonymous scouts on KG..........they usually trash something about everybody..........but:


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Kenyon Green Seems To Have Jason Licht’s Favorite Qualities
April 26th, 2022

Get Bucs AC/DC-loving general manager Jason Licht talking offensive linemen and the former Nebraska guard for Tom Osbourne gets a big smile on his face.

Licht will begin talking like a blue collar oil rig worker, not a guy who runs one of the best NFL teams and makes seven figures a year.

You will hear Licht spit out words like gnarly, gritty, nasty, grimy, tough. Licht will admit that’s one of the main reasons he signed center Ryan Jensen before the 2018 season. He loves offensive linemen that will fight and attack like hungry, scared Dobermans.
And that is sort of how an unnamed NFL scout described Texas A&M guard Kenyon Green.

Bob McGinn, a decades-long beat writer for the Packers who now types for something called “Go Long,” has revived his twice-yearly tradition of breaking down the best players at each position before the draft — using the comments of unnamed NFL suits and scouts.

Sometimes his sources prop up the player big time. Others will tear the guy apart. It’s an informative read.
In his breakdown of offensive linemen, McGinn has Green ranked as his No. 1 guard in Thursday’s draft.
1. KENYON GREEN, Texas A&M (6-4, 325, 5.28, 1-2): Third-year junior. “He’s going to be a good, steady pro,” said one scout. “Don’t ever know if he’ll be a Pro Bowler or All-Pro. He’s big, long, tough, smart. He’s got the makeup you look for in an offensive lineman.” Started at RG as a freshman and at LG in ’20. Last season, he made seven starts at LG, two at RG, two at RT and one at LT. “Pretty impressive,” another scout said. “Everything but center. I would try him at left tackle. He doesn’t have a typical left tackle look to his body. Arms were 34 1/8. Nimble, quick. He’s got strike and jolt. They pull him a ton and he’s really good at it. In pass pro he’s got nifty feet and hand-punch coordination. He’s got some technique issues but he’s real talented.” His versatility and body build brought to mind Larry Allen for one scout. “Unbelievable kid,” a third scout said. “Damn good run blocker and a pretty good pass blocker. He’ll be a rookie starter. Physical.” From Humble, Texas. “He pushes people around in the run game,” said a fourth scout. “He’s a better athlete than you want to give him credit for because he’s one of those grimy, gritty guys. At first, you’re thinking, ‘All right, is this just a strong, tough guy?’ But he played left tackle in the SEC and did pretty well. Dan Moore started for the Steelers as a rookie from out of there and (Green) is better than him.”
 

Texian

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Kenyon Green (Texas A&M)

Not only did Texans General Manager Nick Caserio and Head Coach Lovie Smith both attend Texas A&M’s Pro Day, the Texans also hosted Kenyon Green for a “Top 30” visit and had another opportunity to get a good look at the versatile lineman. Green played all across the offensive line during his time as an Aggie and had success at both guard and tackle. Green would be a much-needed addition to the Texans offensive line.
 
Kenyon Green (Texas A&M)

Not only did Texans General Manager Nick Caserio and Head Coach Lovie Smith both attend Texas A&M’s Pro Day, the Texans also hosted Kenyon Green for a “Top 30” visit and had another opportunity to get a good look at the versatile lineman. Green played all across the offensive line during his time as an Aggie and had success at both guard and tackle. Green would be a much-needed addition to the Texans offensive line.
Where did that write up come from?
 

zshawn10

All Pro
After finishing last in rushing efficiency each of the past two seasons, the Texans gave their offensive line some needed help at pick No. 15, when they made Texas A&M’s Kenyon Green the first interior offensive lineman off the board.

Texans general manager Nick Caserio said throughout the pre-draft process that he was open to trading back from one of his two first-round picks. He ended up doing so with his latter Day 1 selection, trading back from No. 13 to No. 15 while also adding picks Nos. 124, 162 and 166.

Big board ranking: Green ranks 27th on Dane Brugler’s big board. He’s Brugler’s second-ranked offensive guard, behind Boston College’s Zion Johnson. No other player at the position received a Round 1 grade from Brugler. Even Green got a Round 1/2 grade from Brugler.

Introduction: Green is nothing if not versatile. In 2021, Green was the only FBS player to play at least 80 snaps at four different offensive line positions. He did it well enough to earn All-America honors for a second straight season.

And the Aggies needed every bit of Green’s efforts as they trudged through an up-and-down season and were forced to play five different O-line combinations thanks to injuries and growing pains. There were few sure things on A&M’s front, except for Green, whom the Aggies could depend upon to excel weekly, despite an ailing knee that nagged him throughout the year (Fisher said Green rarely missed a practice for it). — Sam Khan Jr.

How he fits: My first reaction to this pick: The Texans must have been jumped for the players they really wanted at 15, and this was the next best offensive player on their board. Houston could’ve used an explosive, yards-after-catch type at wide receiver for Davis Mills, but adding a player to protect the interior will serve as an OK consolation prize. Green is a high-floor type as a guard, so I hesitate to expect a star-level outcome. He’s capable of executing in a zone or gap running scheme, and he’s good enough in pass protection to hold up against league-average interior rushers from Day 1. — Diante Lee

Second guess? Johnson, who went a couple of picks later to the Chargers, is the obvious other consideration here. He was not just Brugler’s higher-ranked guard, but also the higher-ranked guard on the consensus big board assembled by The Athletic’s Arif Hasan.

There’s also a positional value conversation worth having here. FSU’s Jermaine Johnson and Purdue’s George Karlaftis — two players who received Round 1 grades from Brugler — were still available at No. 15, and the Texans had one of the worst pass rushes in the league last season. The Texans still have multiple picks in Rounds 2 and 3 to address that issue, though. Adding Green should improve some of the early-down running game failures that led to the Texans leading the NFL in three-and-out rate and tiring out their defense.

Rookie impact: Given Green’s versatility, he should start somewhere for the Texans as a rookie. Guard seems most likely, though given the Texans picked him at No. 15, maybe they think he has tackle potential.

Adding Green could allow the Texans to move 2019 first-round pick Tytus Howard back to right tackle from left guard, where he struggled last season. If Howard does indeed move back to tackle, A.J. Cann and Max Scharping are candidates to play the guard spot opposite Green.

Depth-chart impact: The Texans chose to restructure left tackle Laremy Tunsil contract this offseason, effectively tying him to the team for the next two seasons. But otherwise, this is a unit in flux, filled with short-term free agents and Texans draftees who might not receive second contracts from Houston. Drafting Green doesn’t displace anyone so much as fill a void.

Fast evaluation: The Texans desperately needed offensive line help, and Green should be a plug-and-play starter for Houston. That might not have been the case had the Texans instead used this pick on a second-tier offensive tackle. But the 15th pick might prove to be a bit rich for a guard, especially when that guard is not the consensus top player at the position.
 
What is this nonsense? Don't you know Texian knows more than all these guys combined? He is a legend! Don't you know all the guys he has picked for NFL teams? Let me name them all for you
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Yeah I got nothing.
NFL website has him as the #1 guard prospect and 16th overall so right about where he was picked.
I just wasn’t prepared for the pick so was bummed about it.
 

ArmyBengal

Retired Army Medical NCO
Again, not a player my son was pleased with. Personally, I love the kid and think he's going to be good.
That being said, I would have preferred my team walk about with Evan Neal at RT and Jordan Davis at DT.
I would have bet there would be a CB for the taking at the top of round two when considering depth of class.
Sure enough on top of Neal and Davis, there would have been a shot at Booth, McCreary or Gordon.
Oh well, will be cheering Green on something fierce !!
 

beerlover

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Again, not a player my son was pleased with. Personally, I love the kid and think he's going to be good.
That being said, I would have preferred my team walk about with Evan Neal at RT and Jordan Davis at DT.
I would have bet there would be a CB for the taking at the top of round two when considering depth of class.
Sure enough on top of Neal and Davis, there would have been a shot at Booth, McCreary or Gordon.
Oh well, will be cheering Green on something fierce !!
Well if it’s any consolation, let him know Kenyon was brought in to protect who Texans believe is their franchise QB Davis Mills. It’s easier to chip and help tackle position than it is to help your guard, he is locked in one on one’s with the biggest badass the other sides got, then he must win that battle, create space for Mills or move them against their will to create running back lanes. It’s a thankless job, not much publicity or endorsements but essential to others success. Keynon is powerful and a mover of big men, maybe Texans draft Breece Hall next in the 2nd round? Then he can see the reason why Texans liked Keynon Green.
:koolaid:
 

beerlover

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Should add there is a similar reaction on the Chargers board in selecting OG #17 Zion Johnson. Then they realize, if he keeps Herbert clean it’s worth every bit of selecting him in the first round. You have to put pieces around your franchise in order for them and team to be successful.
 

beerlover

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Green suffered a small meniscus tear last season. During the offseason, he underwent an arthroscopic trim of a very small bit of protruding jagged meniscus. This should have no significant effect on his future performance.
As always really appreciate your insight Doc which is why Stingley makes me nervous, but hopefully he has extraordinary healing ability!
 

JWLCASPER

Waterboy
This was a prototypical Patriot style pick and I am here for it. New England and their time protecting Brady (and as mentioned Licht now protecting Brady) prioritized guard play to ensure a clean interior pocket for a less than mobile QB. I believe to truly see what we have in Mills, Cann and Green will be pivotal in his success. Mills likes to rise in the pocket as opposed to drifting, and it is imperative that our guard play improves from the atrocities of interior line play we have watched for nearly a decade.

I think Nick could have moved down again and still picked Green, but he may have been weary of losing out on his guy to New England or Baltimore or even Los Angeles who ended up taking Zion at 17. Give Nick credit, he seems to have a great pulse on this draft and where teams are looking for what and where.
 

Number19

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This was a prototypical Patriot style pick and I am here for it. New England and their time protecting Brady (and as mentioned Licht now protecting Brady) prioritized guard play to ensure a clean interior pocket for a less than mobile QB. I believe to truly see what we have in Mills, Cann and Green will be pivotal in his success. Mills likes to rise in the pocket as opposed to drifting, and it is imperative that our guard play improves from the atrocities of interior line play we have watched for nearly a decade.

I think Nick could have moved down again and still picked Green, but he may have been weary of losing out on his guy to New England or Baltimore or even Los Angeles who ended up taking Zion at 17. Give Nick credit, he seems to have a great pulse on this draft and where teams are looking for what and where.
I still like taking Kinnard if he lasts to 80.
 

thunderkyss

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I'm just going to throw this out there. I know you're supposed to play with a wide base, but I'm concerned Green plays too wide. His knees are outside the frame of his body & his ankles are even farther. looks like an injury waiting to happen.

I keep getting flash backs of Ron Dayne ruining promising careers.
 

steelbtexan

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I'm just going to throw this out there. I know you're supposed to play with a wide base, but I'm concerned Green plays too wide. His knees are outside the frame of his body & his ankles are even farther. looks like an injury waiting to happen.

I keep getting flash backs of Ron Dayne ruining promising careers.
You're worrying about nothing. He's never had an injury after 3 yrs of starting against SEC competition. Can he get injured? Sure, is he more or less likely to be injured than any other player in this draft? Nope
 

thunderkyss

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You're worrying about nothing. He's never had an injury after 3 yrs of starting against SEC competition. Can he get injured? Sure, is he more or less likely to be injured than any other player in this draft? Nope
I hope you're right. I hope he keeps his feet under his shoulders.
 


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