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No way Dom survives this humiliation!
- Thread starter Hottoddie
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texansfan1974
Waterboy
Dumb Crapers needs to pack is bags. He is no longer welcome in H-Town.
Let Phil Garner finish the season as head coach. He can revive the dead.
GO ASTROS
Let Phil Garner finish the season as head coach. He can revive the dead.
GO ASTROS
I hope Casserly gets some of the credit for the disaster. The team has continued to pass on experienced players at a variety of positions (i.e. Trotter last year, Boulware this year, Verba, etc) that could have brought some direction to the team. Casserly has built this mess; Capers has coached it.
txnfan4eva
Practice Squad
If I was McNair, Capers wouldn't make it out the locker room before being fired!!!!!!!
Capster67 said:
Casserly is a flipping i d i o t, I would get rid of him tomorrow and wait til the end of the season to get rid of Dom.
txnfan4eva
Practice Squad
Dom shouldn't be given the grace to make it to the end of the season.
I don't know if firing the coaching staff is going to help, but it certainly will not hurt. IF the coaching staff is going to be fired, let it happen soon so the new staff can start getting to know the players and get ready for the off-season.
There is nothing going for our team right now. The offense and defense are equally bad, the coaches are clueless. The time for change is now.
There is nothing going for our team right now. The offense and defense are equally bad, the coaches are clueless. The time for change is now.
txnfan4eva
Practice Squad
Can someone tell me how many times this season how many times the Texans have ran passing plays throwing the ball for more than 10 yards on a play?????
rockabilly
Waterboy
He has to be gone.....or ill cry.
txnfan4eva
Practice Squad
Rockabilly, I love that sign!!!!!!
rittenhouserobz
Veteran
The earlier you fire a coach. The sooner you can get assisstant coaches from other teams to become out coach. If you wait longer, then it gets close to playoff time and teams are not as willing to let guys interview. I say he is fired soon.
rockabilly
Waterboy
rockabilly said:
thanks. i just got the light bulb in my head for it.
txnfan4eva
Practice Squad
I just noticed on NFL.com that Houston actually doesn't have the worst total defense in the league...at least before this game.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
I don't honestly expect anything productive to happen on the coaching front until the end of the year. At best we get a resignation and then an assistant with almsot zero chance of being our next head coach finishes out the year.
I'm in no hurry to see Dom go out the door. It's not going to get any better if he leaves on Monday and Fangio leads us out of the tunnel next week. It's not going to get any better if Hoke takes over either.
I'm in no hurry to see Dom go out the door. It's not going to get any better if he leaves on Monday and Fangio leads us out of the tunnel next week. It's not going to get any better if Hoke takes over either.
rdbrem said:
LOL, I know that quote. Besides being a Texans fan, I am a lifelong Bucs fan. Coach McKay had some of the best/funniest one liners ever.
Speaking of the late Coach McKay, he turned around that pathetic expansion Bucs team and had them in the NFC championship game in their 4th season of existance. Here the Texans are in their 4th season and well...
texansfan1974
Waterboy
Crapers could'nt even coach my sons little league football team.
Send that the fool CFL with Casserly packed in is suitcase. :brickwall
Send that the fool CFL with Casserly packed in is suitcase. :brickwall
El Tejano
Hall of Fame
I know we all want Capers gone but I am really beginning to consider getting rid of Fangio and letting Capers run the defense all together.
This is my thing: If our QB is getting knocked around, at 0-5 I'm trying to hit the other teams QB from now on whether we get to him by the time he tries to throw or not. Until the Texans start making teams pay for stuff, they will continue to get pushed around. Next year, I am not caring about players that are locker room cancers and have a history of a bad rep. There are entirely too many nice guys on our team.
This is my thing: If our QB is getting knocked around, at 0-5 I'm trying to hit the other teams QB from now on whether we get to him by the time he tries to throw or not. Until the Texans start making teams pay for stuff, they will continue to get pushed around. Next year, I am not caring about players that are locker room cancers and have a history of a bad rep. There are entirely too many nice guys on our team.
txnfan4eva
Practice Squad
texansfan1974 said:
Shoot, CFL don't want him, he needs to go to NFL Europe and develop some coaching skills before anyone brings him back to North America!!!
mean mark8
Waterboy
El Tejano said:
Fangio is Capers' coach. They do everything the same. Swapping one for the other won't change anything. Pendry is the offensive version of Capers. Capers has what he wants and the players he wants. Look what Capers wants for the Texans.
I have a few hopes for whom they release at the end of the season: I want them to get rid of Buchanan, anybody the Raiders don't want can't possibly be worth having. He commits grand larceny every time he cashes his pay-check!! He has no heart and he does not seem to interact with his team mates much. Joppru has not played one down for this team, it is time so part ways with this guy. I think the 3-4 has outlived its usefulness. It is time to switch to 4-3 we should retain Johnson, Smith, and Walker (Leadership) Put Babin at his natural position: DE go find another DE. I hope they keep Peek, Greenwood, and Orr. The only member of the secondary worth keeping is Robinson.
txnfan4eva
Practice Squad
Gunbuny said:
I can't believe the Texans gave up draft picks for him!! So now all we really have is our first round that IF by some unknown reason Capers and Cass are still here, we will waste that pick on a position we don't need much like they did this last off-season.
By this time do we even try the rest of the season or just go for the #1 draft pick and hope the Lienart lottery can net us some handsome later picks?
The masculine part of me wants to go for the former, but the rational part of me screams for the latter. Isn't it funny how often the masculine parts of ones mind conflicts with the rational?
Anyway, if Dommy isn't gone by tomorrow there will be some very angry people in this city.
As a side note, we could have the best baseball team in the MLB and the worst football team in the NFL.
The masculine part of me wants to go for the former, but the rational part of me screams for the latter. Isn't it funny how often the masculine parts of ones mind conflicts with the rational?
Anyway, if Dommy isn't gone by tomorrow there will be some very angry people in this city.
As a side note, we could have the best baseball team in the MLB and the worst football team in the NFL.
I thought we had our full complement of picks this up-coming draft? I was hoping that since we have such a head start, we just try to win the Matt Leinart Sweepstakes, trade the pick to some one who needs a QB for their 1st, 3rd rd picks this year, plus their 1st rd pick next year.
Ibar_Harry
All Pro
Contrary to what some of you think I would like to see someone from the outside step in and start cleaning house. I would like Dan Reeves, but I don't think Jimmy is the one. I do not want any of the assistants to take over because it would be just more of the same. Capers is a lame duck and what's worse you can see it in his expressions or lack there of...........
Hottoddie
Veteran
I doubt that Casserly would be fired. He'll have to hire the replacement coach.
Besides, it's my opinion that Capers has had a big hand in choosing some of our players in the draft. Trading away all those picks for Babin & Buchanon, & drafting TJ when Jammal Brown(OT), Alex Barron(OT), Chris Spencer(C), Logan Mankins(G), David Baas(C), & several potential impact skill players were still available, had to be initiated by Capers.
Besides, it's my opinion that Capers has had a big hand in choosing some of our players in the draft. Trading away all those picks for Babin & Buchanon, & drafting TJ when Jammal Brown(OT), Alex Barron(OT), Chris Spencer(C), Logan Mankins(G), David Baas(C), & several potential impact skill players were still available, had to be initiated by Capers.
TexanFanInCC
Veteran
and dom capers was a defensive minded coach????? i mean, it is one thing to see the offense struggle, but the defense has been flat out embarrasing. our defense just forced the first turnover this season, and all it was was a stupid careless pass right at troy evans, a guy who isnt even a starter. that is freakin pathetic. i can definitely see capers getting fired by tomorrow morning, but i think that casserly will stick around till the end of the season.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Gunbuny said:
We have a full complement plus an extra 3rd. The picks given up for Buchanon were last year's picks.
Texans Horror
All Pro
Players will be held accountable for their own actions. I want to make it extremely clear that this behavior will never be tolerated again.
-- Minnesota owner Zygi Wilf, to the Twin Cities media Friday.
From http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/10/16/mmqb.week6/2.html
Sure wish the Texans coaches/staff would take that kind of leadership and hold their players accountable for their actions (or inaction). I will also add this quote from Wilf and say it should apply to the Texans organization as well:
I am embarrassed. My family is embarrassed. My partners are embarrassed. The NFL is embarrassed. And anyone who respects this franchise is embarrassed. You have my promise that I will do everything in my power to ensure that unacceptable behavior does not occur ever again.
-- Minnesota owner Zygi Wilf, to the Twin Cities media Friday.
From http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/10/16/mmqb.week6/2.html
Sure wish the Texans coaches/staff would take that kind of leadership and hold their players accountable for their actions (or inaction). I will also add this quote from Wilf and say it should apply to the Texans organization as well:
I am embarrassed. My family is embarrassed. My partners are embarrassed. The NFL is embarrassed. And anyone who respects this franchise is embarrassed. You have my promise that I will do everything in my power to ensure that unacceptable behavior does not occur ever again.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
You would see similar statements from McNair if the Texans were accused of molesting women or performing sexual acts with hookers on rented boats in front of the crewmembers. There are plenty of things to complain about right now without making things up.
GP
Go Texans!
Did you see Capers yelling, "Go for it. Let's go for it." on fourth down, and then kris Brown gets sent out to kick the field goal (The lone FG we had)?
I felt sorry for Capers. Nobody listened to him. He was wanting to go for it, and the kicking team got sent out. Now THAT is sad. To be the head coach, and to be saying "Go for it. Let's go for it. Go for it" over and over and as you're saying it...the kicking team trots out.
He didn't yank them back and get mad. He just let it happen.
He's the HC and his decision was cancelled out without asking him, or without Capers putting up a fight.
Unbelievable. That was the one scene that stuck in my head all night, and it still remains there today. Unbelievable.
I felt sorry for Capers. Nobody listened to him. He was wanting to go for it, and the kicking team got sent out. Now THAT is sad. To be the head coach, and to be saying "Go for it. Let's go for it. Go for it" over and over and as you're saying it...the kicking team trots out.
He didn't yank them back and get mad. He just let it happen.
He's the HC and his decision was cancelled out without asking him, or without Capers putting up a fight.
Unbelievable. That was the one scene that stuck in my head all night, and it still remains there today. Unbelievable.
HoustonFan
Veteran
infantrycak said:
Very true.
HoustonFan
Veteran
gpshafer_1976 said:
Was this the first field goal or the 2nd one? I can't believe this - well yes I can.
GP
Go Texans!
It was the first one, the only one we made.
Capers was so emphatic...I couldn't believe it. He was fired up and was yelling it. The cameras were on him the whole time, and then in the right-side of the TV screen you could see a coach waving in the kicking team AT THE SAME TIME Capers is still yelling to "Gor for it."
The camera crew got a shot of Capers after the field goal, and the expression on his face was like he had never even asked to go for it in the first place--Can you imagine Holmgren telling everyone he wants to go for it, and him getting ignored? He would have exploded. I always thought the HC was the HC and what the HC says is the final answer. The way Capers was so animated about going for it, and then to not go for it, you'd think Capers would be embarassed to have his authority blatantly undermined like that...but he didn't show an ounce of anger. No redness in the face, no sulking. Nothing. Weird stuff. Twlight zone.
I don't know what was said to Capers by a coach on the sideline (to tell him "No") because they didn't have the audio on...but he definitely didn't get what he wanted: To go for it.
It was hilarious.
Capers was so emphatic...I couldn't believe it. He was fired up and was yelling it. The cameras were on him the whole time, and then in the right-side of the TV screen you could see a coach waving in the kicking team AT THE SAME TIME Capers is still yelling to "Gor for it."
The camera crew got a shot of Capers after the field goal, and the expression on his face was like he had never even asked to go for it in the first place--Can you imagine Holmgren telling everyone he wants to go for it, and him getting ignored? He would have exploded. I always thought the HC was the HC and what the HC says is the final answer. The way Capers was so animated about going for it, and then to not go for it, you'd think Capers would be embarassed to have his authority blatantly undermined like that...but he didn't show an ounce of anger. No redness in the face, no sulking. Nothing. Weird stuff. Twlight zone.
I don't know what was said to Capers by a coach on the sideline (to tell him "No") because they didn't have the audio on...but he definitely didn't get what he wanted: To go for it.
It was hilarious.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
I can't imagine them firing Dom right now because I am not sure that things get any better handing it off to an assistant. I am thinking that if they make a change, it will be after the season.
I know some folks have suggested that all the coaches need to be fired. Have to say that I would really miss special team's coach Joe Marciano. I think that the special teams, for the most part, has been a bright spot for the team, that his players play hard for him and respect him, and he is just a standup guy.
I got to watch him do a film clinic on special teams stuff and found him super impressive. I wanted to run through a brick wall for him after he was done, which I suppose woulda hurt bad.
Ultimately, when bad things are happening to your football team, all you can hope is that the ownership doesn't do anything goofy and shortsighted in a panicky response to everyone being angry about losing. One way or another, McNair wants to win and fortunately he is willing to spend the money. Unfortunately for him, the NFL rules make it a little harder to spend your way to success.
Just some thoughts. (Also adding that I can't believe how thin our team is now--it is hard when all your best players are getting injured--we didn't have much depth before and now it is just sad).
I know some folks have suggested that all the coaches need to be fired. Have to say that I would really miss special team's coach Joe Marciano. I think that the special teams, for the most part, has been a bright spot for the team, that his players play hard for him and respect him, and he is just a standup guy.
I got to watch him do a film clinic on special teams stuff and found him super impressive. I wanted to run through a brick wall for him after he was done, which I suppose woulda hurt bad.
Ultimately, when bad things are happening to your football team, all you can hope is that the ownership doesn't do anything goofy and shortsighted in a panicky response to everyone being angry about losing. One way or another, McNair wants to win and fortunately he is willing to spend the money. Unfortunately for him, the NFL rules make it a little harder to spend your way to success.
Just some thoughts. (Also adding that I can't believe how thin our team is now--it is hard when all your best players are getting injured--we didn't have much depth before and now it is just sad).
HoustonFan
Veteran
gpshafer_1976 said:
Man.
that's embarassing. Well, we've got to endure this for 11 more games. I'm gonna cool it w/ the fire Capers rants, b/c it's not like things willl change IMMEDIATELY. And then who is going to coach the rest of the way? If it does happen, it will probably be closer to the end - last 2 games or after 1/1/06.
GP
Go Texans!
You know how you look at a great head coach, who is doing a great job, and he came "out of nowhere" and shocked everyone? He was an assistant somewhere, maybe even two or three other places, and you didn't hear his name called all those years leading up to his first HC job? But there he is one day...making a splash, getting it done. Most recently it's Marvin Lewis, Romeo Crennel, and Charlie Weiss in the NCAA. All of those guys were quality assistant coaches/coordinators and the success just translates if you ask me.
Look back at how Mariucci and Sherman and Andy Reid were all a part of Mike Holgren's GB staff (I think that's right). And possibly even John Gruden was in that bunch before he became a HC at Oakland.
Yesterday's assistants, Today's head coaches: Green Bay staff leads the way
You see each of them in those NFL Films clips, back in the day when they were all assistants, and you can just see in their body language and in their focus, and in what they say to their players' units: You could SEE the potential in those clips.
I see the same thing in Marciano. The guy is enthusiastic, motivational, and he just has "purpose" burned into his eyes when you look at him.
Why couldn't we give him a shot? Give him the authority to replace the coordinators and assistants. Go out and get free agent coaches out there and finish up this season with a different attitude. Something like this will not happen because McNair is just not going to fire Capers in mid-season. But I think it couldn't hurt in terms of the product that's being trotted out onto the field right now. What could it hurt to give a guy on your own staff the chance to HC? It also communicates to other coordinators and other assistants out there who are alreayd on NFL teams right now that "You can have a shot at promotion within if you come to the Texans..."
Marciano for HC.
Look back at how Mariucci and Sherman and Andy Reid were all a part of Mike Holgren's GB staff (I think that's right). And possibly even John Gruden was in that bunch before he became a HC at Oakland.
Yesterday's assistants, Today's head coaches: Green Bay staff leads the way
You see each of them in those NFL Films clips, back in the day when they were all assistants, and you can just see in their body language and in their focus, and in what they say to their players' units: You could SEE the potential in those clips.
I see the same thing in Marciano. The guy is enthusiastic, motivational, and he just has "purpose" burned into his eyes when you look at him.
Why couldn't we give him a shot? Give him the authority to replace the coordinators and assistants. Go out and get free agent coaches out there and finish up this season with a different attitude. Something like this will not happen because McNair is just not going to fire Capers in mid-season. But I think it couldn't hurt in terms of the product that's being trotted out onto the field right now. What could it hurt to give a guy on your own staff the chance to HC? It also communicates to other coordinators and other assistants out there who are alreayd on NFL teams right now that "You can have a shot at promotion within if you come to the Texans..."
Marciano for HC.
the wonger need food
All Pro
gpshafer_1976 said:
Wait... what??? Did anyone else see this? Which coach was it that told the FG unit to get on the field.
If this is true it should be getting a lot more publicity.
I just tivoed to that spot and I think he is talking about when Kris Brown kicked the field goal with 6 seconds left to the half. We had just got the interception and had a little momentum.
It sure looks like he was saying "Go for it" and he was waving his hands a little bit, but yet if it was his call and they ignored it he wasn't too broken up about it. He even had the composure to talk to the reporter as the team went into the locker room.
Complete opposite of how Holmgren looked after his team had three penalties in the first few minutes, he chewed their ***es off and "viola" improvement!
It sure looks like he was saying "Go for it" and he was waving his hands a little bit, but yet if it was his call and they ignored it he wasn't too broken up about it. He even had the composure to talk to the reporter as the team went into the locker room.
Complete opposite of how Holmgren looked after his team had three penalties in the first few minutes, he chewed their ***es off and "viola" improvement!
