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NAACP official: Vick shouldn't be banned from NFL

Khari

Administrator
They just made themselves look like morons. Vick should be suspended and I will not watch a game in which he plays.
 

Cjeremy635

Overtraining
Quote from article:
"White also said he didn't understand the uproar over dogfighting, when hunting deer and other animals is perfectly acceptable."

In that case, I have no problem with them killing the dogs as long as they eat them. That's a rule that 99% of the "hunters" abide by. :nicedog:
 

Mr. White

H-Town Beatdown
The same guy came out and made a similar statement a few weeks ago. Just another Vick fanboy trying to use his position as head of the Atlanta Chapter to inject race into the issue.

The national body of the NAACP still hasn't gotten involved to my knowledge.
 

Specnatz

Hall of Fame
Each time the NAACP steps up into something like this Martin Luther King roles over in his grave. With as many things that happen in this country that they should be speaking out on they have to open their mouth and insert thy foot on this kind of crap.

Now that is just being out of touch with reality.

By the way if Mr White was caught dogfighting I wonder if he would keep his job.
 

awtysst

Draft Guru
You know, I honestly believe that if Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr knew what was happening with his organization he would roll over in his grave. There is still discrimination in this country that the NAACP should be looking at and working towards fixing. This is just an example of a person trying to create a name for himself, and he should be ashamed of his actions.
 

Texan_Bill

Hall of Fame
White is an *****.... I love this gem:

"We feel that whatever the courts demand as a punishment for what he has done, once he has paid his debt to society, then he should be treated like any other person in the NFL," White said.
It should have read like this you moron:

"We feel that whatever the courts demand as a punishment for what he has done, once he has paid his debt to society, then he should be treated like any other person in the NFL that has pleaded guilty to a dog fighting felony which also included gambling," White said.
Duh...... I think thats what Roger Goddell is considering right now.
 

HoustonFrog

Dallas Frog
This guy is a laughingstock. I was just reading about it on ESPN and these things floored me.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2986382

Excuse #1 and Letting a Guy Off the Hook:

White said the Atlanta chapter supports Vick's decision to accept a plea bargain if it's in his best interest, but he questioned the credibility of Vick's co-defendants, saying an admission of guilt might be more about cutting losses than the truth.


"At this point, you're not looking at guilt or innocence," White said, referring to the possible harsher sentence Vick could have received had he taken his case to trial and been found guilty. "You're thinking, 'What I better do is cut my losses and take a plea.' But if he saw this as the best thing to do at this point for his future, then I think he made the correct choice."
And #2

"His crime is, it was a dog," White said.
Whatever moron
 
R

real

Guest
Ok...This is D-u-m-b....

Vick SHOULD be banned from the NFL...

The fool committed a freaking felony...

No one else can commit a felony and expect to go back to their corporate job, or any kind of job for that matter....

Vick needs to find work where he can. The NFL doesn't have to do a damn thing.
 

Hookem Horns

Administrator
Staff member
The NFL should ban this guy just to save some face with the image of the league. Just imagine the circus that is going to be in every visiting city that Vick plays in. There will probably be a protest in every city, outrageous signs everywhere, fans booing everytime he touches the ball, etc.

True, he didn't go OJ and kill humans, however he murdered innocent dogs and that tends to pull at people's emotions. Whether it's right or wrong, in movies people tend to get more emotional when animals die more than when people do.
 

Specnatz

Hall of Fame
I am sorry but ever since I saw the NAACP get upset over a hispanic female get named as head of the Dallas Indipendent school district, I have no respect for the organization.

It is a money making enterprise and that is it.
 

Vinny

shiny happy fan
To me is it simply amazing how uneducated and ignorant some sectors of the community are. When these Einsteins equate hunting to dog fighting and actually have a straight face, it tells me how out of touch with humanity they are, and how low their character is to condone such a disgusting practice. Sure, that hamburger you ate today didn't die of old age...but it wasn't tortured and forced to fight for the right to live for the amusement of a bunch of shallow idiots.
 

Double Barrel

Moderator
Staff member
Contributor's Club
To me is it simply amazing how uneducated and ignorant some sectors of the community are. When these Einsteins equate hunting to dog fighting and actually have a straight face, it tells me how out of touch with humanity they are, and how low their character is to condone such a disgusting practice. Sure, that hamburger you ate today didn't die of old age...but it wasn't tortured and forced to fight for the right to live for the amusement of a bunch of shallow idiots.
Word.

When hunters start catching deer and making them fight to the death in a brutal blood sport, then I'll feel the same way about hunters (which technically would not make them "hunters" anymore).

Hunters perform the same actions that a butcher performs. One shot kills are what they strive for, and it is not about enjoying the brutality of animals viscously killing each other for sport.

The only people that I will grant any respect for this comparison are true vegans (no part of their life has anything remotely connected to using animals). I might still find them to be a bit whacko, but I'd respect their dedication to living the mentality.

Everyone else that compares dog fighting to deer hunting are just stupid, though.
 

swtbound07

Jackass of Day!
Hunters are well regulated and licensed. There are permits, safety courses, background checks, bag limits, game wardens...i could go on and on. Hunters and fishermen are responsible people. I am a hunter. We don't shoot the deer in its hoof to watch it limp around for a little bit for our own amusement. One shot kills are the credo. No pain, no realization, just food. I feel sorry for fish, what with the whole hook/asyphiaxtion thingy, but what can you do
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
When SWT actually agrees with the majority on this, you know the man is a jackass of the highest order. This guy makes Paris Hilton look like Socrates in comparison.
 

Cjeremy635

Overtraining
Word.

When hunters start catching deer and making them fight to the death in a brutal blood sport, then I'll feel the same way about hunters (which technically would not make them "hunters" anymore).

Hunters perform the same actions that a butcher performs. One shot kills are what they strive for, and it is not about enjoying the brutality of animals viscously killing each other for sport.

The only people that I will grant any respect for this comparison are true vegans (no part of their life has anything remotely connected to using animals). I might still find them to be a bit whacko, but I'd respect their dedication to living the mentality.

Everyone else that compares dog fighting to deer hunting are just stupid, though.

I couldn't help but laugh, the visualization is great!!! Sorry guys/gals, I'm a hunter and I'm not one for animal cruelty, but I'd probably watch that sport and I don't even have a desire to see dogs fight.
 

Cjeremy635

Overtraining
Sadly, you wouldn't think that would be a necessary statement, Cj...
For MANY different reasons!
LOL, you never know. That little tidbit of info right there could have saved someone's life. Seriously, a troop of girl scouts could go on a nature outing and happen upon some remnants of a hunter's camp. Suddenly, little Sally picks up a discarded bottle of "Tink's 69" and accidently sprays little Suzy's Brownie outfit. They think nothing of it, just that it has a foul odor, and continue on their outdoor excersion. About 30 minutes into the hike, little Suzy gets gorged and mauled to death by a fiesty buck in rut. Now, LYB, had they happened upon this priceless testimony beforehand, they could have been taking snapshots of butterflies and earning their wilderness badge instead of screaming in agony. :cool:
 

Koolaid Time

Drink Up!
Here is the easy way out of this for the NFL...

Mr. Vick will be suspended from the NFL for as long as he is in custody of State and Federal Authorities....

Upon his release from prison, Mr. Vick is free to "try out" for any NFL team..

Feds.. 2 years
State of Virginia: 8 counts at up to 5 years per count. Say he gets 1 count, stacked on his Federal time...

Minimum Total: 7 years.

7 years in prison means Vick is washed up by the time he gets out..
 

GlassHalfFull

Hall of Fame
I hate that people try and make this a race issue. If Peyton Manning or Tom Brady had done this crime - they would be trashed worse than Vick has been (well, if that was possible).
 

swtbound07

Jackass of Day!
I hate that people try and make this a race issue. If Peyton Manning or Tom Brady had done this crime - they would be trashed worse than Vick has been (well, if that was possible).
I disagree. As much as i generally hate the race card, I think that Brett Favre doesnt get the Vitriol that vick does here. I think thats mostly due to people already being predisposed to hate vick for whatever reason, probably partly due to race. Thats not to say it wouldn't be a story, or there wouldn't be outrage...but i don't think it would have the venom that it does when directed towards vick.
 

Cjeremy635

Overtraining
I disagree. As much as i generally hate the race card, I think that Brett Favre doesnt get the Vitriol that vick does here. I think thats mostly due to people already being predisposed to hate vick for whatever reason, probably partly due to race. Thats not to say it wouldn't be a story, or there wouldn't be outrage...but i don't think it would have the venom that it does when directed towards vick.
Did I miss something? When was Favre charged with being involved in running a dog fighting ring?
 

GlassHalfFull

Hall of Fame
Did I miss something? When was Favre charged with being involved in running a dog fighting ring?
Prime example of how rumors get started!!

I still maintain it would be worse. People would have a sense of betrayol they don't have with Vick. Not because of race, but because of the stunts he has pulled.
 

swtbound07

Jackass of Day!
swt veiled attempt at making an excuse for vick.
im not excusing vick. Im simply stating that the public outcry is worse then it would be for a white quarterback of the same public stature. Whether or not it is wrong as an entity of itself is another debate entirely, but please don't sit here and smile and tell me america would be just as outraged. Black and white do still exist. Sad, but true.
 

infantrycak

Admin & Mod
I disagree. As much as i generally hate the race card, I think that Brett Favre doesnt get the Vitriol that vick does here. I think thats mostly due to people already being predisposed to hate vick for whatever reason, probably partly due to race. Thats not to say it wouldn't be a story, or there wouldn't be outrage...but i don't think it would have the venom that it does when directed towards vick.
I think you have a kernel of truth but are overstating it. First, not everyone saying a person who commits a crime should be or will be prosecuted is flinging venom. To the extent you perceive it as venom or it is actually being flung, dog lovers are going to fling it no matter what race the person accused--they are dog lovers, not race haters. Are there some people who are primarily motivated by race in this case and don't really care about the dogs except as an excuse?--sure, out of 300 mil people there are bound to be some--personally I don't think it is a significant segment of the population. What you wouldn't hear would be a bunch of white folks calling in saying dogs aren't important in white culture.

I think you are also underestimating the predisposition against Vick created by his own actions with Ron Mexico, flipping the bird, the water bottle and by association the actions of his brother--all racially independent.
 

Cjeremy635

Overtraining
Prime example of how rumors get started!!

I still maintain it would be worse. People would have a sense of betrayol they don't have with Vick. Not because of race, but because of the stunts he has pulled.
Sorry....I guess the sarcasm of my response didn't come through in the typing. I was being a smarta$$. :shades:
 

Tedc

Hardheaded
im not excusing vick. Im simply stating that the public outcry is worse then it would be for a white quarterback of the same public stature. Whether or not it is wrong as an entity of itself is another debate entirely, but please don't sit here and smile and tell me america would be just as outraged. Black and white do still exist. Sad, but true.
I feel you are totally wrong.

If Pac Man Jones does something wrong (what are the odds?) and Joe Montana does the same thing, I feel there is a larger outcry about Joe from the fans based on his past. They would feel MORE betrayed by a man who they truely believed was an idol.

Vick has a tainted past and it is not so much a stretch to believe his guilt and it is easier to accept the possibility that he is. Joe Montana would be more of a news story but the crime would be viewed as the same.....disgusting.

On another note, let's not forget the gambling charges Vick faces. That is something the NFL can't look past.
 

Texan_Bill

Hall of Fame
im not excusing vick. Im simply stating that the public outcry is worse then it would be for a white quarterback of the same public stature. Whether or not it is wrong as an entity of itself is another debate entirely, but please don't sit here and smile and tell me america would be just as outraged. Black and white do still exist. Sad, but true.
Funny, you should have listened to Jim Rome today. Jemele Hill (a black female writer for ESPN's Page 2) addressed the very same issue about this being a white quarterback.

She used Tom Brady for example. What she says is that is if Tom Brady were to have a "history" of indescretions such as Vick has had, he would have been equally lambasted by society as a whole.

By the way, her article is a good read... Vick did this to Himself

I know, I know, she's an Aunt Jane..... :rolleyes:
 

Vinny

shiny happy fan
Some of you young guys don't know or don't remember your history but the NFL kicked popular Ohio St QB Art Schlichter out of the league for gambling many years ago. This may amaze some folks but he was white.
 

Texan_Bill

Hall of Fame
Some of you young guys don't know or don't remember your history but the NFL kicked popular Ohio St QB Art Schlichter out of the league for gambling many years ago. This may amaze some folks but he was white.
Yankee knows all to well about Art Schlicter............ :specnatz:
 

Specnatz

Hall of Fame
And the
award goes to Stephon Marbury.

"We don't say anything about people shooting deers and shooting other animals, you know what I mean? From what I hear, dogfighting is a sport. It's just behind closed doors and I think it's tough that we build Michael Vick up and then we break him down ... I think he fell into a bad situation."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2986382

WOW there really are some insightful folks out there. Fell into a bad situation? No you fall into a bad situation when your woman runs off with another man and takes all your money with her. Financing an illegal activity and then gambling on it is not falling into it, it is jumping feet first and landing on your "johnson".
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
And the
award goes to Stephon Marbury.




http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2986382

WOW there really are some insightful folks out there. Fell into a bad situation? No you fall into a bad situation when your woman runs off with another man and takes all your money with her. Financing an illegal activity and then gambling on it is not falling into it, it is jumping feet first and landing on your "johnson".

my current moron list:

Deion Sanders - Check
Peyton Manning - Check
Emmit Smith - Check
Newly added section:
Stephon Marbury :gun:

Ya, Portis and White. Forgot about those two.

And today, I am adding a new wing on to my main moron building. This wing is devoted to the morons of the highest order. Deion in an honorary lifetime member.

But our newest inductee is Jason Whitlock. Does this guy actually mean what he writes? If so, he might deserve one whole wing to himself that is above and beyond the Deion wing. It'll be called the Jason Whitlock Moron hall of fame lifetime memorial wing.

If you haven't seen it, get a load of this - Vick deserves shot at redemption
 

Spled

Rookie
Watch Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel this month to see how cruel this activity (not sport) is. Blacks and whites do it. Defending it, in a cheap attempt to throw the race card, makes you responsible for it continuing.
 


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