bigTEXan8 said:
The biggest reason VY will likely not succeed is because of the type of offense he has been brought up in. That offense doesn't even have a chance in the NFL. I think that is one of the biggest reasons why Alex Smith has struggled so much. He was brought up the same way.
Like much of the rest of this thread, these remarks are nonsense.
First, Mortensen:
PASSING: Carr is a better passer? Well, he's probably got a "bigger" arm, but he has no field vision, which VY seems to have plenty of; Carr's got a bad (sidearm) throwing motion that they weren't able to work out of him, and VY has a worse throwing motion, but he seems very accurate and he seems to flick the ball effortlessley, whereas Carr looks as if it is hard work throwing the ball. Carr does have a more traditional "look" to his passing, but he's less accurate and unable to hit a moving target with any regularity. The real difference is Carr's had four years in the NFL, four more years than VY, and he's not that much better now. Can you imagine what VY will be like after four years in the NFL? Really, in a way, VY is more like Favre in some ways.
SPEED: Carr is faster. Please. That's just plain silly. Carr is slower and less agile and less able to escape. Carr is much less elusive. VY is a real runner when he runs, whereas Carr is a lead-legged QB when he runs, much less athletic.
STRENGTH: VY passes with guys hanging around his waist. He's a lot stronger than Carr and will get even stronger in the NFL.
LEADERSHIP: This goes to VY without even a 2nd thought. He's a big strong guy with a lot of charisma who inspires confidence in all those around him and lifts their level of play. Carr is like a 90 lb weakling by comparison, he's a "stamp-your-feet" kind of kid who nobody on the team seems to think a lot about. Banks seems to get a lot more out of the team than Carr, as a matter of fact.
SYSTEM: Well, time will tell on this. Carr has 4 years in teh system and he's still stinking it up. It's hard to imagine VY being WORSE than Carr in the system we've run. As someone said of the SF game, Banks game in, rifled the ball downfield to different receivers and didn't take a sack. Carr would have spent much of the day on his back. Sooner or later management is going to run out of excuses for Carr's poor play, and then we'll start to get somewhere, maybe. Will VY translate into a more conventional NFL system? I don't know. I imagine you're going to have to tailor the system for him a little more than usual, but as I said above, he looks to me like a big, fast guy whose NFL future is going to be in the Favre, Steve McNair mold.
WILL WE TAKE HIM: I don't think management is smart enough to do that. When McNair decided to keep Casserly --in any capacity-- I wrote the deal off a little as trying too hard to be a conventional NFL program, some imaginary ideal of what the management is SUPPOSED to do. I remember reading "usually a GM gets two coaches" before he's fired, and I guess that's what McNair decided, never mind that this argument, this precedent, if it's true, makes no sense at all in terms of business or football, but it is easier to do, looks like a compromise (business guys love compromise), and doesn't risk so much in the press and in public opinion.
SO IT GOES.
