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therealdon said:
Dude wake up. We got one with a bum knee on IR who people are saying may never come back, a starting rookie, a 2nd year player and a discarded RB. When we made Mario pick I wasn't too concerned because I love DD and think he is a great back. Now oh how I wish we hadn't passed on Bush. Get ready for a long season. I understand how people want to believe FO and believe in the team, I wasn't griping about pick til DD was placed on IR. He was huge part of what this team was going to be and now we're just wingin it. I hate to say it but I am not going to be happy with Mario if he doesn't get a sack and a couple tackles for loss on Sunday. I will be at every game I will cheer and never boo (except at officials). I believe that we have a chance to win every game. Is it probable that we have a winning season? You're dreaming if you think so. I do think we will win against Philly though, and starting the season with a win will give the guys much needed confidence and hopefully keep them playing above their level. I'm not hoping for bad things I just think that the team is in over their heads and everybody is going to have to be mistake free if we want to be in games. I can't wait til Sunday and I hope Carr can step up and show us he's what we all believed he could be.
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Guess what we would have if drafted Reggie Bush.
One with a bum knee on IR who people are saying may never come back, a starting rookie(with a $50mil contract), a 2nd year player and a discarded RB and a D-line that is missing big time talent.

Bush is still a rookie. When they hand him the ball, his Heisman won't do anything for him. If it does have magic powers maybe Ron Dayne can whip his Heisman out.

Lundy is a rookie too. But guess what. He has scored a lot more touchdowns in College than Reggie Bush did.

Bottomline if you are going to refer to Lundy as "Just a Rookie" or a similar name remember Reggie Bush is no different. He is still totally unproven. Especially when you consider Lundy had a better preseason.
 
I love how months later, of all of the stupid half-truths and outright lies surrounding Bush, we're still hearing the one about us passing on him was:

(a) a conspiracy theory orchestrated for the city of New Orleans, out of sympathy or whatever
(b) over signability concerns
(c) over character concerns
(d) Casserly "in control" and sabotaging his soon-to-be-former employer
(e) ALF

Drafting Mario was a football decision. Passing Reggie was a football decision. Period, point blank. Reggie's camp and the Texans had come to agreement over terms of the contract prior to the draft, and they drafted Mario any way.

Does McNair have to draft and sign a postcard to each of you before you get that? Face-to-face steak dinner? Yeesh.
 
LBC_Justin said:
Earl Campbell is a totally different kind of runner.
Comparing Earl to Reggie is like comparing a Train to a Sports car.

Lendale White is more in the Earl Campbell mold.

But Earl Campbell like pretty much all the great running backs had about SIX years great play, then faded away. Sadly, the game of Football is more brutal on that position and that is one of several reasons, you don't plop down $50+ million on a running back.
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Unless you're NewOrleans, then you do it twice................. at the same time.
 
jerek said:
I love how months later, of all of the stupid half-truths and outright lies surrounding Bush, we're still hearing the one about us passing on him was:

(a) a conspiracy theory orchestrated for the city of New Orleans, out of sympathy or whatever
(b) over signability concerns
(c) over character concerns
(d) Casserly "in control" and sabotaging his soon-to-be-former employer
(e) ALF

Drafting Mario was a football decision. Passing Reggie was a football decision. Period, point blank. Reggie's camp and the Texans had come to agreement over terms of the contract prior to the draft, and they drafted Mario any way.

Does McNair have to draft and sign a postcard to each of you before you get that? Face-to-face steak dinner? Yeesh.
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Nah..... since you said it, I'll believe it now.

But for future reference, anytime I say Reggie screwed himself, it's because I'm tired of all this, "Houston made the dumbest mistake" talk. So I'll put ball back in Reggie's court. He screwed up. He is not a Texans, because he screwed up.

Hey, you're preaching to the choir........ I've been saying from the get go, that Kubiak would never draft a RB with the #1 overall. Never..... did I believe it was a possibility.

Reggie can't even outrun a PepsiMachine for crying out loud.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
It's better to be the underdog........

2006 NFL FEARLESS FORECAST [from Great Blue North Draft Report]


THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM: Odds on who gets the top pick at the 2007 draft....

1. Houston 7-1
2. San Francisco 10-1
3. Oakland 12-1
4. New Orleans 15-1
5. Buffalo 18-1
6. Green Bay 20-1
7. Tennessee 25-1
8. Detroit 35-1
9. New York Jets 40-1
10. St. Louis 50-1
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nice odds, I will love it when we prove them wrong.. and if not 1 of 2 things happen, if it is Carr's play..Brady Quinn here we come, if not hello trade down and get us some defenive help.

Adrian Peterson ...:drool: but figured we wouldn't go that route
 
jerek said:
I love how months later, of all of the stupid half-truths and outright lies surrounding Bush, we're still hearing the one about us passing on him was:

(a) a conspiracy theory orchestrated for the city of New Orleans, out of sympathy or whatever
(b) over signability concerns
(c) over character concerns
(d) Casserly "in control" and sabotaging his soon-to-be-former employer
(e) ALF

Drafting Mario was a football decision. Passing Reggie was a football decision. Period, point blank. Reggie's camp and the Texans had come to agreement over terms of the contract prior to the draft, and they drafted Mario any way.

Does McNair have to draft and sign a postcard to each of you before you get that? Face-to-face steak dinner? Yeesh.
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I don't care what you say.

It was ALF, dammit.
 
Wolf said:
nice odds, I will love it when we prove them wrong.. and if not 1 of 2 things happen, if it is Carr's play..Brady Quinn here we come, if not hello trade down and get us some defenive help.

Adrian Peterson ...:drool: but figured we wouldn't go that route
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I think it's a bit too early to call next year the Brady Quinn sweepstakes. A year ago, it was supposed to be the Leinart sweepstakes and he fell to 10th.

Hell, 6 months ago it was supposed to be Bush or VY going first... :)
 
infantrycak said:
FYI--the Texans only have one expansion draft player on the roster--Seth Payne. You will see him this weekend tying up two guys and plugging the middle.
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And with opponents also putting two blockers on Mario every play, we're gonna have a lotta sacks and tackles-for-loss from the rest of our D. :whip:
 
You're not going to outgun Indy, and history shows that superstar running backs aren't enough to win championships (read Michael Smith's article on why the Texans shouldn't draft Bush - archived story on espn.com). Mario was the right choice.
 
flylikeaneagle said:
Who cares what the media says? Screw them!
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You've been in the south too long. You're starting to make sense.

Actually, some of the stuff you've posted this week hasn't been too bad, even though you're rooting for the wrong team.

I like Donovan McNabb. I think the Eagles might get back to business this year. I just hope the shop opens one week late.
 
The sports media folks had invested a lot of time, money and reputation trying to make Bush into the next NFL superhero. When the Texans passed on him he got burried in new orleans the team that should have been last place in 2005. Now he will be hard profit from because he will not get as much playing time, his stats will be weaker. The Texans front office single handedly shut down the national media's B.S. machine. Now the best they can do is run stories about Bush singlehandedly raising the Katrina victoms out of thier dispair by bringing hope to the entire city... give me a break

Sorry, I had to post somthing, I couldn't hold back any longer... I'm better now
 
Well ladies and gentleman, it finally happened. I listened to enough of you wannabe General Mangers talk about what we woulda shoulda done. First, let's lay out some useful information as it relates to RB vs MW. A contract offer was on the table to both Bush and Mario well before the draft. Basically the same package. It was a very fair offer and it was first taker wins. Reggie passed because of greed. Don't believe it? Was he in Saint's camp on time? No! A holdout which wound up netting him basically the same offer we laid out plus or minus a couple million more in signing bonus. Not really important when he will make much more in endorsements over the next five years. So it wasn't the Texans fault Bush said NO! He was their first choice. As far as Mario, he may very well been drafted too high. Personally, I think so. That being said, I hope he turns out to be Julius Peppers. I would like nothing more than to see Payton Manning and Byron (Overrated) Leftwich with bloodshot eyes due to lack of sleep on Saturday nights for the next 7-10 years. For all of you who think you know more than a coach who has been in the game either coaching in Super Bowls or playing the QB position for most of his life, go get Madden 07 and pretend to be a GM there and you can make all the decisions you need to make yourself believe you know more than the professionals. Casserly and Capers excluded!! They had no track record of success. Capers was only an assistant on good teams and Casserly had Joe Gibbs and Bobby Bethard to thank for his success. How about we all get on the bandwagon tomorrow and be the supportive fanatic fan that is in all of us. Just be a supportive fan, not a kool aid drinker who believes we go to the playoffs this year. Realistically, we are probably two years from a serious playoff run and that is contingent on Carr finally getting over his post traumatic stress disorder of almost being killed the last four years. If he doesn't get straight, then bench him and his boyish looks. Me, I will let the coaches make that call. Best wishes to all and GOD, is it game time yet?
 
Philadelphia at Houston: Not using the No. 1 pick in the draft on Reggie Bush is as smart as a 16-year-old kid turning down a date with Jenna Jameson two days after he got his drivers license. Texans 20, Eagles 13.

If this has already been posted ... feel free to merge Thanks.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5947950

:bananasplit: :bananasplit: :bananasplit:
 
TexanFan4Life said:
Just be a supportive fan, not a kool aid drinker who believes we go to the playoffs this year. Realistically, we are probably two years from a serious playoff run and that is contingent on Carr finally getting over his post traumatic stress disorder of almost being killed the last four years.
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The point I would like to make is that in Todays NFL you do not have the ability to build for 3-4 years down the road. You will never get there. Its like driving around in an old car and fixing everything as it falls off,because you don't want a car payment. Someone else makes the payments and is driving around in a new car. The old car ((MIGHT)) cost you less, but wouldn't you rather have the new one?
 
jerek said:
I love how months later, of all of the stupid half-truths and outright lies surrounding Bush, we're still hearing the one about us passing on him was:

(a) a conspiracy theory orchestrated for the city of New Orleans, out of sympathy or whatever
(b) over signability concerns
(c) over character concerns
(d) Casserly "in control" and sabotaging his soon-to-be-former employer
(e) ALF

Drafting Mario was a football decision. Passing Reggie was a football decision. Period, point blank. Reggie's camp and the Texans had come to agreement over terms of the contract prior to the draft, and they drafted Mario any way.

Does McNair have to draft and sign a postcard to each of you before you get that? Face-to-face steak dinner? Yeesh.
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Why would we want a postcard from Mcnair if it was a football decision? I think Casserly and Kubiak would be more appropriate dinner companions? Right? The fact is life is not like Madden. There are always issues that are not strictly football decisions.
 
Will someone show me where it said if you draft RB you are a sure thing to win a Super Bowl please. I have said it before RB might end up being the best back in the NFL but look at who he is compared to two backs from the bears GS and WP and that guy from the Lions BS these guys were the best but how many Super Bowls did they win what one. In fact WP didn't even score in the Super Bowl hell come to think about it how many did they even go to. We took MW and this guy has been booed and tore down in the media while RB is praised as the man and neither has taking a snap yet. Everybody wants to compare them by what they did this preseason the problem is when you look at what they have done they are the same, even, no TD no sack's but it is the media who is to blame why because they say MW will take 2 years shoot he didn't even have a sack this preseason. Bring up RB he is a star and the man for years to come and he didn't have any TD this preseason but it is only preseason on the other hand he did run for 44 yards that one game. What is done is done and leave it at that and do not worry about what they say on sportcenter or nfl live try watching Houston Sports Beat or Texans Huddle because those other guys will never give MW his dew or the FO if he turns into a beast. For all you RB and VY supporters drop it and wait till next year's draft to complain about how we let the next best thing go I for one are very proud how this team FO and all have turned it around.
 
Houston_Fanatic said:
We had Earl Campbell and couldn't make it to the Super Bowl. It takes more than just one great RB to get there. Kubiak knows what it takes.
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If he knows, why do we have Carr?
 
pawpaw67 said:
If he knows, why do we have Carr?
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look at what kub did with plummer, if kub believ carr is the man for the job then so be it!!!!!......kub knows more about football then u ever will
 
Houston_Fanatic said:
We had Earl Campbell and couldn't make it to the Super Bowl. It takes more than just one great RB to get there. Kubiak knows what it takes.
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Very true!! RBush has yet to prove he's gonna be a great RB in the NFL anyway! IMHO, his name and Earl Campbells don't need to be mentioned in the same sentence when it comes to talking about GREAT RBs. Only a rare few EVER get to Earls calibur, and I have my doubts RB will be one of them.
 
SheTexan said:
Very true!! RBush has yet to prove he's gonna be a great RB in the NFL anyway! IMHO, his name and Earl Campbells don't need to be mentioned in the same sentence when it comes to talking about GREAT RBs. Only a rare few EVER get to Earls caliber, and I have my doubts RB will be one of them.
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Well said, Earl is one of a kind.
 
SheTexan said:
Very true!! RBush has yet to prove he's gonna be a great RB in the NFL anyway! IMHO, his name and Earl Campbells don't need to be mentioned in the same sentence when it comes to talking about GREAT RBs. Only a rare few EVER get to Earls calibur, and I have my doubts RB will be one of them.
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Most of you probably won't remember a famous quote by Earl in response to how he felt about his awesome career accomplishments........."Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." Can you picture self-promoting RBush saying this?
 
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