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Mock 1: Discussion Thread - All mock draft discussion here

DRIFTAWAY said:
oh hm i was under the impression Broncos had 2 late first rounders, i might have heard wrong though
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I actually think you are right, with the Broncos owning #22 and #29. Strange thing is that NFL.com and cbssportsline.com is not reporting it.
 
ya, i took the broncos under the impression that they had 2 picks. We did it that way in the other MB mock, and I have seen every mock having two first round picks and have seen plenty of discusions about their two picks.
 
The Broncos have the Redskins 1st round pick, #22, and their 4th round pick, #118 from the trade during the 2005 draft. The Redskins acquired Denver's 1st round pick so they could draft Jason Campbell. ESPN and the Redskins website have it correct as do most of the major mock draft scouting sites. I have no idea why CBS has it incorrect. NFL.COM is associated with them so that why they have it incorrect as well.
 
http://www.redskins.com/news/draftCentralDetail.jsp?id=14118

Indeed, the draft could become the Broncos' busiest in years in terms of the number of selections available. The Broncos have extra first- and fourth-round selections thanks to their April 2005 trade with the Washington Redskins. They don't have a seventh-round pick, which they surrendered in the trade for Todd Sauerbrun, but Shanahan expects the team to receive compensatory picks for free-agent losses that included defensive end Reggie Hayward and safety Kenoy Kennedy last offseason.
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http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=334&storyID=5272
 
I will update this after I make some coffee...I wasn't in yesterday after noon...sorry for the non-reply to the PM's to all. Selections only in this thread please...I'm going to delete this message when I update the mock. If we don't have a pick discussion thread up I will make one...or move the off-topic there when I finish.

thanks,
V
 
a very muted response to the Texans selection :listening

no BIG offers.....not that surprising, fact the record shows Carr is the Texans QB resigned to a 3 year multi-million dollar extension and the new coach is a former QB who develops QB's makes alot of sense for the 1st time in franchise history the Texans take the BPA :twocents:
 
beerlover said:
a very muted response to the Texans selection :listening

no BIG offers.....not that surprising, fact the record shows Carr is the Texans QB resigned to a 3 year multi-million dollar extension and the new coach is a former QB who develops QB's makes alot of sense for the 1st time in franchise history the Texans take the BPA :twocents:
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Its hard to get a good offer, when I cant accept future picks, or veterans, and we are only doing a 4 round mock...

Although for the sake of taking a big need, I would have taken a 2nd and 3rd to swap with the Jets. But couldnt make it happen.
 
THE NFL DRAFT said:
Its hard to get a good offer, when I cant accept future picks, or veterans, and we are only doing a 4 round mock...

Although for the sake of taking a big need, I would have taken a 2nd and 3rd to swap with the Jets. But couldnt make it happen.
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Did you look into trading down to the 10-15 range & then trading back up to the 4th pick? I know that the Jets have a lot of needs to fill & might've been willing to drop down a little for an extra pick, or two.

While you might not have gotten a boat load of picks, if this draft allowed us to trade players, you might have picked up a young player.

For instance, in Dunta_23's mock, I made a trade that involved a couple of picks, but I was able to pick up Matt Roth in the deal. That way, you can give up all the picks you acquired (assuming you had to) to move back up to #4 to select D'Brick, & still have a young player to show for your efforts.
 
Hottoddie said:
For instance, in Dunta_23's mock, I made a trade that involved a couple of picks, but I was able to pick up Matt Roth in the deal. That way, you can give up all the picks you acquired (assuming you had to) to move back up to #4 to select D'Brick, & still have a young player to show for your efforts.
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In this mock, however, he's not allowed to trade for Matt Roth or any other signed player. He's not allowed to trade for future picks. With the rules set the way they were, I can't imagine anyone trading up to #1. Only #2 and #3 could afford to, and neither team had any reason to.
 
The first year we did this (way back when) we had a billion silly trades that were unrealistic and impossible due to cap or whatever....everyone just ends up arguing about what is possible and what isn't, so we have just left it out since then. When you can trade anyone for anything it's just a circus with everyone swapping something. It just tends to be less realistic than a mock with fewer trades that may not be ideal...but is closer to normal than total chaos.
 
The Falcons Have traded with the Raiders

Falcons get
#7 overall pick

Raiders Get
#15 overall pick
Falcons 2nd Round pick. Unsure of number
 
swtbound07 said:
The Falcons Have traded with the Raiders

Falcons get
#7 overall pick

Raiders Get
#15 overall pick
Falcons 2nd Round pick. Unsure of number
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I just got the call from Big Al..."I must say, Commitment to Excellence and all that."

The Vinny Raiders confirms the deal.

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NFL | Raiders Trade Down
Tuesday, February 2006 18:36:47

Updating previous reports, Al Davis stuns the NFL by trading down with the Falcons and also announced that Art Shell is the new starter at Left Tackle.
 
what time is my pick due, and for anyone else whose interested i have two good offers on the table to trade down, so id hurry up and make an offer if interested.
 
DRIFTAWAY said:
what time is my pick due, and for anyone else whose interested i have two good offers on the table to trade down, so id hurry up and make an offer if interested.
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Your time is acually up, 12 hrs. have passed since the last pick...please choose now...
 
The New York Jets trade the #4 pick to the Detroit Lions for their #9 pick, and their 2nd round pick(#40 I believe) In Return the Lions will also recieve the Jets 4th round pick.(102ish?)
 
With the 5th pick in the draft, the Green Bay Packers choose D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT) Virginia.

It's hard to pass up on a Franchise LT.
 
DRIFTAWAY said:
The New York Jets trade the #4 pick to the Detroit Lions for their #9 pick, and their 2nd round pick(#40 I believe) In Return the Lions will also recieve the Jets 4th round pick.(102ish?)
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Your time is up and Beerlover isnt here to confirm the trade.
 
Hottoddie said:
With the 5th pick in the draft, the Green Bay Packers choose D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT) Virginia.

It's hard to pass up on a Franchise LT.
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Can't imagine what those Jets fans are thinking now. :sos:
 
i think beerlover's selection constitutes as accepting the trade...so the 49ers are on the clock, dbrick and mario are now gone?
 
I'm not sure if we can trade the rights to a player that's been selected, but I trust that the mods will let me know if that's not the case.

Having said that, D'Brickashaw Ferguson is available for trade to the highest bidder. PM me with your best offer. I'm not going to go back & forth between bidders. If I like the trade, I'll take the best offer.
 
This is a terrific trade up for the Lions to draft a elite top 5 defensive prospect that you just don't see every year in the draft. The Lions who need to upgrade the LE (Corey Redding) would then consist of Mario Williams @ LE Shaun Rogers LT Dan Wilkinson RT and James Hall RE give the Lions one of the top lines in the NFL. New defensvie minded coach of the Detroit Lions Rod Marinelli was the Tampa Bay Assistant Head Coach and Defensive Line Coach, two of his best friends are Lovie Smith (Chicago Bears HC) and Monte Kiffin, defensive coordinator for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers & he has been quoted as saying "I want to have a great defensive line because that will last for 16 consecutive weeks when you start building up front. Obviously every position is important, but that’s where I’ll focus".


The only other player who interested me if I was going to wait with the 9th pick, hoping he would slip and he did not (Texman8 selected) was AJ Hawk who went as the 6th pick overall. Therefore the Lions are thrilled to make this trade to help become the turnaround Cinderalla story of 06.
 
come on sarge...the 12 hr clock is for getting to the computer, and not to use as trade time. In the NFL you have 15 mins. Take a bit of time if you wish...but try not to take the full 12 hours just because you have a half-day window.
 
Vinny said:
come on sarge...the 12 hr clock is for getting to the computer, and not to use as trade time. In the NFL you have 15 mins. Take a bit of time if you wish...but try not to take the full 12 hours just because you have a half-day window.
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As you wish, I have just made the pick, but in the NFL you don't have to wait for the other GMs to get to the computer. I consider trading before a pick comes up to be pretty darn unrealistic in and of itself.

Besides, who picks at 1:30 am in the first place? :)

Anyhow, the Bills select DT Ngata as Coach Jauron has always done best with a big bad DT squishing the run. More importantly, our defense dropped from 2nd to 29th in one year after losing Pat Williams to Free Agency. Sam Adams just isn't getting it done.
 
Sarg01 said:
As you wish, I have just made the pick, but in the NFL you don't have to wait for the other GMs to get to the computer. I consider trading before a pick comes up to be pretty darn unrealistic in and of itself.

Besides, who picks at 1:30 am in the first place? :)

Anyhow, the Bills select DT Ngata as Coach Jauron has always done best with a big bad DT squishing the run. More importantly, our defense dropped from 2nd to 29th in one year after losing Pat Williams to Free Agency. Sam Adams just isn't getting it done.
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People who work nights....like me. Anyways, any thoughts on the falcons trading up for huff?
 
Sarg01 said:
As you wish, I have just made the pick, but in the NFL you don't have to wait for the other GMs to get to the computer. I consider trading before a pick comes up to be pretty darn unrealistic in and of itself.

Besides, who picks at 1:30 am in the first place? :)
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I've run this thing for 5 years now and it works best this way since we have 31 other owners to consider. Just look at the dropouts from the dunta23 mock in the mock forum. Sorry if you don't like it but you should have read my rules before you signed up.
 
Vinny said:
I've run this thing for 5 years now and it works best this way since we have 31 other owners to consider. Just look at the dropouts from the dunta23 mock in the mock forum. Sorry if you don't like it but you should have read my rules before you signed up.
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I apologize, I must have missed the post where you stated that trades should be conducted before the pick came up. Please don't take offense - I did pick as soon as you made your stance on the matter clear.
 
swtbound07 said:
People who work nights....like me. Anyways, any thoughts on the falcons trading up for huff?
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It's a good trade. The DBs in this draft aren't weak, per se, but Huff's the only one likely to perform like a Dunta or DeAngelo. There's no way you would have gotten him at #15. We all know the Falcons desperately needed secondary help. Had he been at #8, I might have been torn about taking him.
 
Sarg01 said:
I apologize, I must have missed the post where you stated that trades should be conducted before the pick came up. Please don't take offense - I did pick as soon as you made your stance on the matter clear.
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well...nothing to apologize for and I don't mean to be harsh. It's a slow draft prototype and I do push it along a bit....my bad. I appreciate your patience.
 
Hottoddie said:
I'm not sure if we can trade the rights to a player that's been selected, but I trust that the mods will let me know if that's not the case.
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I don't know how what Vinny or Fiddy rule on this, but the reason you don't see this happen much on draft day is because of the rookie salary pool implications. The team that trades up has less $$$ to work with to sign the player. The last time this happened in the actual draft, the Giants had to find a way to sign #1 overall Eli Manning with a smaller # 4 salary slot. It can and has been done. But the reality of the rookie pool makes it more difficult than had the picks alone been traded.
 
an OG going with the #10 pick? With Hali, Lendale white, Kiwi, and winston justice still on the board? i have to say, that pick shocked me
 
I'm up in 2 picks.....I'll be willing to move back a few spots if someone is in love with a specific player...Just PM me.
 
Reasoning of the Eagles picking Davis. First of all, I know that DE or LB are needes for the Eagles. But Davis should never be here at 14. Buy drafting Davis the Eagles now have the big receiver they lost in Owens. I know he is listed as a TE, and he can be used there in a two TE system. But, just think of someone his size, with speed lined up outside on a 190lb corner with todats passing rules. Or put him in the slot with one on one LB coverage. He will open up a lot of things for Westbrook and Brown. Also, LJ Smith has a habit of dropping passes. Davis lights a fire under LJ and makes him a better player.
 
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