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McShay 3.0

Mr. White said:
Speaking of Am0bi Ok0ye.....

Seems like he came on real strong at the Senior Bowl and the Combine that year. God knows he hasn't done anything since then.

Maybe there was a few guys on the board that didn't like the pick, but I don't remember any of the Kipers or McShays having a bad word to say about the pick at the time.
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I wasn't sold on the guy either. He was impressive in the Senior Bowl but honestly I don't remember a thing about his college career where I thought...Top 10.

I think at this point you have to go with one of the DE/OLB that are left..many fit the new scheme...Aldon Smith, Ayers, Kerrigan and Cameron Jordan who plays DT too.
 
EllisUnit said:
If the Texans are Unable to bring in a veteran ?!?!?!?!? If Kubiak and Smith leave us in the same position with the kiddie CBs as they did last season and bring in another kiddie CB :vincepalm: i will have to say that they are possibly the worst Coach/GM Duo to ever run a team in the History of the NFL. Forget Drafting a CB, Resign Jason Allen, bring in a Big name CB as our Number 1, then J. Allen as our number 2. Quinn/Jackson play Nickle/Dime our Their DS on the Sidelines, they will be more help doing that than they were last season. :handshake:
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They won't know if they will be able to sign a CB at the time of the draft if they are still in lockout mode...

Julio Jones or front seven defensive pick for me...
 
steelbtexan said:
I called Cushing and Barwin.

Thanks for the rep Senor Stan.
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how about four, Tate in 3rd, Mitchell 5th, Shelly Smith & Trindon Holiday 6th. Funny 1st pick never on my screen, how is that possible? I was so mad about it, why are Texans not trading down then taking KJ with two higher rated cb prospects on board (McCourty/Wilson)? rationalized it this way, Texans know what they want, liked his film & Sabin coaching. then impressed @ combine/interview & private workouts, which none of us had access (only tweets). Kareem is not a tweener he's a tweeter. :wadepalm:
 
Revolution said:
They won't know if they will be able to sign a CB at the time of the draft if they are still in lockout mode...

Julio Jones or front seven defensive pick for me...
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Yep. If a CBA isn't agreed to until Sept. (aka when the games should be starting) it's going to be a madhouse scramble trying to get some FAs in here and signing everybody. Then, they're getting to your team for the first time... first practice, if they're lucky.. and then there will be the first game of the season. This year there will probably be a LOT of blown assignments and rusty looking players.

Totally agree on your draft wishes. Julio Jones or front seven for me.
 
rmartin65 said:
Nope, Jackson was not on my radar. Unfortunately, neither was McCourty. I missed the ball with him, he is looking pretty good while I wanted nothing to do with him before the draft.
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Let's not forget that McShay had Haden #1, Wilson #2 & McCourty #3

Discounting Haden, I had McCourty & Jackson neck to neck and Wilson in third place.
The reason I had McCourty slightly ahead was due to McCourty's recovery speed.
Their 40 time at the combine; however, was the same.
After the Texans drafted Jackson, I went back and watched more tapes, I believe in the long term, Jackson will be the better player overall.
(But of course, that will depend on their own circumstaces; how the teams employ them. I don't know for sure about McCourty's work habit, but he seems to be playing hard all the time, so I think he will be fine in that regard. I don't have no problem whatsoever with Jackson in this regard either.)

You guys must remember that McCourty played mostly as a cover 2 corner for the Pats (sometimes he would be in cover 3.)
Regardless of the scheme, he had more safeties' help than Jackson.

I reviewed at least 7 of the Pats' games.
When I looked at the defensive alignment, I noticed this:
Let's say the offense is in single back so that there 2 receiving threats on each side.
At least 90% of the time, you can count on more defenders to be on McCourty's side (or shading toward McCourty's side).
A DT putting a hand up in the passing lane is also of great help to the CB, let's not forget that.
Even when they played 2 deep safeties, from time to time, the second safety would shade over a little so that the main supporting safety (to McCourty) can be of more help to the rookie.

I did not like Wilson as much, because he took bad angles a bit much to my liking.
 
HoustonFrog said:
I have read where Jimmy Smith's workouts have been crazy good and he is racing up boards....but I don't think they take him there.
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Jimmy Smith working out? Where? When?
Private or with a training club?

I haven't heard about any workout, but I will say this: His game tapes are the best I've seen among the draftees this year.

I understand that Steelb and most board members here love Peterson; some love Prince. But Smith had the best tapes (by more than a little bit and including games against Georgia - with AJ Green, the near consensus #1 WR; and Mizzou - with Gabbert, seemingly the choice QB in this draft.)
 
JCTexan said:
Weren't you the one who predicted the Duane Brown pick, though?
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I don't think anybody really talked about Brown, except for me, briefly before the draft.
I rated him as the #8 OT overall, and that was where he got drafted.
I didn't rate him as a first rounder though.
I've already pushed him up because I think he fits well in the ZBS that we run.
In contrary to John Harris (Lance Z's partner or friend), I saw him as a better run blocker than a pass blocker.
(I think Harris said he hadn't watch Brown before he was drafted by the Texans though; and I don't think Lance Z did either.)
 
76Texan said:
Jimmy Smith working out? Where? When?
Private or with a training club?

I haven't heard about any workout, but I will say this: His game tapes are the best I've seen among the draftees this year.

I understand that Steelb and most board members here love Peterson; some love Prince. But Smith had the best tapes (by more than a little bit and including games against Georgia - with AJ Green, the near consensus #1 WR; and Mizzou - with Gabbert, seemingly the choice QB in this draft.)
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http://twitter.com/#!/evansilva


evansilva Evan Silva
Pauline also says Patrick Peterson is "the player that most enamors the Broncos," and Jimmy Smith looks "sensational" in pre-draft workouts.
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HoustonFrog said:
McShay has his 3.0 up. Big difference from the 2.0 one I posted earlier. This is from Insider.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/insider/news/story?id=6101352

Has the Titans taking Prince Amukamara at #8, Cowboys taking JJ Watt, DE Wisconsin at #9 and Texans taking Jimmy Smith, CB Colorado at #11.
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Jimmy Smith is a definite possibility depending on how he does at the Combine. I personally prefer Brandon Harris-CB over Smith but both are real possibilities.
 
Frog, from what I understand, the NFL scouts are not allowed to attend any workout at Training Club or private of any form.
I'm sure walls have ears, but definitely the scouts wouldn't comment about things they "overheard".

I don't know how the unofficial scouting people and draft websites operate and whether they fan out to different Training Clubs to watch the prospects working out or purchase tapes from them, or whatever, but it's feasible.

Anyway, this is what I found:
http://www.denverpost.com/cu/ci_17305955
 
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