Kubiak comments on the possiblity of going LT in First Round

[real]

I agree. But I do think we need to get Matt more protection or weapons.

I'd agree with that as well...

But IMHO, that help is going to come in the form of interior lineman...

I can definitely see us drafting a center or gaurd or both in the upcoming draft...

Tackle....Not so much....


Atleast not at ten....

 

[nunusguy]

He said he is wondering whether or not Spencer makes it back for the OPENER....
Calm down fellas....we are not going with Levi Brown.

Agreed - I doubt we draft Brown either.
But in the event we would draft him, IMO Kubiak is basically saying he's now convinced that Spencer "won't" make it back - ever.

 

[Blake]

I'd agree with that as well...

But IMHO, that help is going to come in the form of interior lineman...

I can definitely see us drafting a center or gaurd or both in the upcoming draft...

Tackle....Not so much....


Atleast not at ten....

Why dont we trade down and select a Blalock and try to recoup some of our looses in draft picks?

Or we could get a player like Michael Griffin

Ok, so I live in Austin, and watched every longhorn game so I might be a little biased, but I know a good player when I see one, and these 2 guys are studs.

 

[real]

Why dont we trade down and select a Blalock and try to recoup some of our looses in draft picks?

Or we could get a player like Michael Griffin

Ok, so I live in Austin, and watched every longhorn game so I might be a little biased, but I know a good player when I see one, and these 2 guys are studs.

I would not be opposed to this starting line-up for us next year with a trade down:

Spencer--Pitts--Weary--Blaylock--Winston

With your quality depth being:

Black--McKinney--Flannagan--Hogdon(???)--Salaam

 

[Bluedog]

First time to this site, but in my opinion I see us taking Leon Hall in the first (hopefully by a trade down). Third rd mabey safty John Wendling or de Dan Bazuin. 4th gaurds Yanda, Beekman, or Alleman. 5th center Dan Mozes? 6th wr David Ball. 7th ot Mike Otto?

I feel theese linemen would fit our scheme.

As you can see I like acomplished college players, and most of these guys are, but worries are that it won't transfer to the NFL. Any thoughts?

 

[prostock101]

Sez he's seriously considering taking an OT with the 10th pick. His take on Spencer is that he's 50/50 on being back by camp. My vote would be Landry but he probably will not be on the board. That would mean taking Levi Brown. Also need another WR. Said he's going to give Walter a shot but I'd think they'd look hard at a WR in the 3rd round. Anyone think Brown can be a starter at LT?

Yep.......still a genius!

 

[michaelm]

Sez he's seriously considering taking an OT with the 10th pick. His take on Spencer is that he's 50/50 on being back by camp. My vote would be Landry but he probably will not be on the board. That would mean taking Levi Brown. Also need another WR. Said he's going to give Walter a shot but I'd think they'd look hard at a WR in the 3rd round. Anyone think Brown can be a starter at LT?

Yep.......still a genius!

Posted yesterday in the NFL Draft forum...
http://forums.houstontexans.com/showthread.php?t=37584


Merge...

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[El Tejano]

Well if Kubes does it is only because he is a smarter coach than anything we had before. I wont think it is the sexiest pick but I will give Kubes respect for doing something to take care of a 6 year pain.

 

[Bamaborn-Texasbred]

Sez he's seriously considering taking an OT with the 10th pick. His take on Spencer is that he's 50/50 on being back by camp. My vote would be Landry but he probably will not be on the board. That would mean taking Levi Brown. Also need another WR. Said he's going to give Walter a shot but I'd think they'd look hard at a WR in the 3rd round. Anyone think Brown can be a starter at LT?

Yep.......still a genius!

Sometimes you have to burn that 1st round pick on a lineman.

The Oilers did it many times...

Steinkuhler
Matthews
Childress

 

[hadaad]

Coach Gary Kubiak disclosed on Tuesday that the Texans may select a left tackle in the first round of the draft despite signing free agent Jordan Black and re-signing Ephraim Salaam.
Although the Texans need another wide receiver to play opposite Andre Johnson, Kubiak said they might target a left tackle because Charles Spencer is still only 50-50 to make it back by the first game of the season.

"Right now, there's a big question about whether or not he makes it back," Kubiak said about Spencer being healthy for the opener. "I think we have to operate as if he's not going to be there."


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4666501.html

THANK GOODNESS!

 

[TexanPride05]

I hope we can get him, and get some protection finally

 

[markn]

Unless Spencer has made a huge step towards full recovery prior to the draft, I expect the Texans to pick Levi Brown at 10. Leaving Schaub unprotected in his first full-season is the kind of déjà vu vue all over again that would get the media smacking their lips at the terminal ineptitude of this franchise.

So, as well as passing on Bush and Young, giving away the house for Buchanon, you destroyed the careers of David Carr and Matt Schaub?

Doesn't bear thinking about, does it?

I don't believe OLT is an absolute neccessity for our first pick, but I simply can't see the FO doing anything else with the ramifications of failing another young quarterback hanging over their heads. And even if Spencer eventually makes a full recovery, it won't be a wasted move because he can play elsewhere along the line, and in Brown, Spencer and Winston you'd have the making of an OL that could last a decade freeing the FO to focus on other areas in future drafts and FAs.

Kubiak is going to give Schuab every possible chance to succeed, and he knows that has to start with the Texans having a viable LT for the first time in franchise history.

 

[TaylorFan27]

Unless Spencer has made a huge step towards full recovery prior to the draft, I expect the Texans to pick Levi Brown at 10. Leaving Schaub unprotected in his first full-season is the kind of déjà vu vue all over again that would get the media smacking their lips at the terminal ineptitude of this franchise.

So, as well as passing on Bush and Young, giving away the house for Buchanon, you destroyed the careers of David Carr and Matt Schaub?

Doesn't bear thinking about, does it?

I don't believe OLT is an absolute neccessity for our first pick, but I simply can't see the FO doing anything else with the ramifications of failing another young quarterback hanging over their heads. And even if Spencer eventually makes a full recovery, it won't be a wasted move because he can play elsewhere along the line, and in Brown, Spencer and Winston you'd have the making of an OL that could last a decade freeing the FO to focus on other areas in future drafts and FAs.

Kubiak is going to give Schuab every possible chance to succeed, and he knows that has to start with the Texans having a viable LT for the first time in franchise history.

When an NFL team says a player is 50/50, it usually means more like 10/90. Spencer suffered the same type of injury that Prothro did in Alabama. Tyrone's never getting back to 100%, so why should we expect Spencer to?

 

[real]

I find it hilarious that we are worried about protecting Schaub in his first year as a Texan, yet we are clamouring to reach for a rookie with mixed reviews who many are projecting as a RT....

D'Brick is much better than Levi IMO, and he gave up 10 sacks last year...

Levi is not all that, IMO.

 

[real]

When an NFL team says a player is 50/50, it usually means more like 10/90. Spencer suffered the same type of injury that Prothro did in Alabama. Tyrone's never getting back to 100%, so why should we expect

This is what I call selective reading....

You guys keep focusing on the 50/50 part, yet simply skip over the part where he says "for the opener"...

His comments were that he's 50/50 to be back for the opener, not 50/50 to ever play again.....

 

[TaylorFan27]

This is what I call selective reading....

You guys keep focusing on the 50/50 part, yet simply skip over the part where he says "for the opener"...

His comments were that he's 50/50 to be back for the opener, not 50/50 to ever play again.....

understood. just look at Prothro. Spencer will never be back at 100%. I'd like him to, but it just seems unlikely. Wishful thinking by the Texans, if you ask me.

 

[jopatmc]

What reason would Kubes have to come out this far ahead of the draft and announce we may be taking an offensive tackle. It makes no sense except to stir the waters to get somebody to trade up with us for the #10 pick.

 

[Runner]

This is what I call selective reading....

You guys keep focusing on the 50/50 part, yet simply skip over the part where he says "for the opener"...

His comments were that he's 50/50 to be back for the opener, not 50/50 to ever play again.....

Call it a lesson learned from listening to him during the Dominick Davis debacle of last year. I for one don't want to relive the mad scramble for a key player at the start of the season again. I hope Kubiak has learned too and is looking at options.

For the record, I doubt Spencer plays again. If he does, he'll be a shadow of what we saw as his potential last year.

 

[nunusguy]

If he does, he'll be a shadow of what we saw as his potential last year.

Mobility would be the biggest issue and therefor might lead us to conclude his best chance for ever making a contribution again as an NFL caliber level talent would only be on the inside as a guard ?
Which still leaves us in the market for a front-line LT.

 

[beerlover]

my biggest concern would be his timetable. these things take up to two years given even the best of circumstances. its a damn shame & we all wish him the best in his recovery but do we want to leave our new 48 million dollar man possibly unprotected

 

[thunderkyss]

my biggest concern would be his timetable. these things take up to two years given even the best of circumstances. its a damn shame & we all wish him the best in his recovery but do we want to leave our new 48 million dollar man possibly unprotected

unprotected??

Seriously, Salaam may not be a probowler, but he can still play the game. Not only that, but I think our coach thought wisely enough to draft two guys capable of playing left tackle in the nfl in last years draft.

He threw Spencer into the fire, and brought Winston along slowly as they like to do in Denver.

If you can, go back & watch our game in Nashville. Winston filled in for Salaam for something like 6 plays, and he looked pretty good. Much better than any of our LTs in '06. I understand it was only six plays, and he looked suspect on the right side, but for all we know, he just wasn't used to playing on the right side.

With another off-season with Sherman & Kubiak, he may very well be capable to start on the left side.

Jordan Black is not really an option for the right side... not from what I've seen. He's a RT, and most likely was signed to play RT, move Winston to the Left, and Salaam can be our swing tackle.

 

[TaylorFan27]

unprotected??

Seriously, Salaam may not be a probowler, but he can still play the game. Not only that, but I think our coach thought wisely enough to draft two guys capable of playing left tackle in the nfl in last years draft.

He threw Spencer into the fire, and brought Winston along slowly as they like to do in Denver.

If you can, go back & watch our game in Nashville. Winston filled in for Salaam for something like 6 plays, and he looked pretty good. Much better than any of our LTs in '06. I understand it was only six plays, and he looked suspect on the right side, but for all we know, he just wasn't used to playing on the right side.

With another off-season with Sherman & Kubiak, he may very well be capable to start on the left side.

Jordan Black is not really an option for the right side... not from what I've seen. He's a RT, and most likely was signed to play RT, move Winston to the Left, and Salaam can be our swing tackle.

I like the idea of Winston moving to left. I think he'll work his way over there throughout the course of TC. I like Staley and Black at the right side. Let's hope we draft him.

 

[thunderkyss]

I like the idea of Winston moving to left. I think he'll work his way over there throughout the course of TC. I like Staley and Black at the right side. Let's hope we draft him.

In all reality, if Winston does move to LT, Spencer will be our RT once he's healthy enough to play, until then, Jordan Black will play RT, where he's been playing with the exception of last year.

 

[Texans_Chick]

Various thoughts about the article.

This is what it says:

McClain says the Texans could take left tackle with the first round pick.

Kubiak never says that. In fact, within the quotes of the article, Kubiak says the typical pretty vague stuff:

"There's a good chance; it depends on who's out there," Kubiak said about the possibility of selecting an offensive tackle. "We have to continue to improve up there."

Doesn't say anything about the first round.

"I think you can put that (receiver) right up there with offensive tackle — that's our two biggest needs on offense," Kubiak said. "We need to develop a couple of wide receivers.

Well yeah.

And this says nothing about the biggest needs on DEFENSE, which is also something that could be picked in the draft with the first pick.

And Smith has made a point that the Texans are looking for BPAs.

And how about this say nothing quote:

"We think it's 50-50 that he does make it back," Kubiak said at the NFL spring meetings. "If he does, we'll feel very good. If not, we'll have an issue on that side that we'll have to address in the draft or find a way to make it work with Ephraim or Jordan.

"We've improved there, but we still have to improve a great deal. Solidifying left tackle for a long, long time is the key."

The news that the Texans will not assume that medically a player will come back 100% is not news. Kubiak made a big point of that at the end of last season--that they are going to make the assumption that players will not be back, and if they come back it is gravy.



So, basically, this is a no news story that is made into a news story because it mentions Levi Brown. The Texans need better play from the tackle position. No duh.

It always was stunning to me to read Texans press conferences, and to see the angles of the stories coming from the press conferences. Either AP or Chronic stories. That's why I always like reading the actual pressers.

No press conference related to this, but I don't care for stories where the quotes don't match up with the promise in the headline.

 

[threetoedpete]

I find it hilarious that we are worried about protecting Schaub in his first year as a Texan, yet we are clamouring to reach for a rookie with mixed reviews who many are projecting as a RT....

D'Brick is much better than Levi IMO, and he gave up 10 sacks last year...

Levi is not all that, IMO.

We're not in a position to draft D'brickashaw this year. But we are in a position to take Levi Brown. And it is a much easier reach for me than Jamall Brown and Marcus McNeil of the past. I can except his warts. He's not bust proof. But under these circumstances, with the guy on the board, and our history at the postion, I think the term "Reach" is a bit relative and juvinile at this point in the franchises history. Don't you ?

 

[threetoedpete]

Various thoughts about the article.



So, basically, this is a no news story that is made into a news story because it mentions Levi Brown. The Texans need better play from the tackle position. No duh.

It always was stunning to me to read Texans press conferences, and to see the angles of the stories coming from the press conferences. Either AP or Chronic stories. That's why I always like reading the actual pressers.

No press conference related to this, but I don't care for stories where the quotes don't match up with the promise in the headline.

It made a damed good lay out for a front page devoid of any substance. I got it. But I can dream can't I ?