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Kubiak comments on the possiblity of going LT in First Round

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nunusguy

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Coach Gary Kubiak disclosed on Tuesday that the Texans may select a left tackle in the first round of the draft despite signing free agent Jordan Black and re-signing Ephraim Salaam.
Although the Texans need another wide receiver to play opposite Andre Johnson, Kubiak said they might target a left tackle because Charles Spencer is still only 50-50 to make it back by the first game of the season.

"Right now, there's a big question about whether or not he makes it back," Kubiak said about Spencer being healthy for the opener. "I think we have to operate as if he's not going to be there."


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4666501.html
 
"Right now, we're going to play with Ephraim and Jordan," Kubiak said. "If (right tackle) Eric (Winston) makes the steps this year that he made last year, maybe he could go over there.
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And here's a significant comment by Kubiak - Winston is also a real possibility
at LT if he continues his improvement.
 
IF Spencer makes it back

IF Winston continues to improve.

MAYBE we pick a left tackle in the draft.

Sounds like we are starting a guy who was signed for spot duty as a swing tackle back-up last year, unless the guy who was signed to be a back-up this year beats him out.
 
nunusguy said:
Coach Gary Kubiak disclosed on Tuesday that the Texans may select a left tackle in the first round of the draft despite signing free agent Jordan Black and re-signing Ephraim Salaam.
Although the Texans need another wide receiver to play opposite Andre Johnson, Kubiak said they might target a left tackle because Charles Spencer is still only 50-50 to make it back by the first game of the season.

"Right now, there's a big question about whether or not he makes it back," Kubiak said about Spencer being healthy for the opener. "I think we have to operate as if he's not going to be there."


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4666501.html
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This is the first I've heard that the Texans are considering drafting a WR in the first round. Let's face it, we got a new QB, a new RB, lets give Schaub a #2 WR and our offense will be amazing. It's about time we get a solid #2 WR (I was good with Eric but obviously that didn't work out...)
 
Hey Mods - I screwed-up !
Somebody already placed this story over
in the Draft Section under the title "Kubiak - #10 pick may be OL? "
Sorry 'bout that.
 
Aside from Joe Thomas, there aren't any OL worthy of a top 10 pick. If the Texans take a tackle, they need to trade down and take one in the lower half of the 1st round so hopefully they can get an extra pick..
 
nunusguy said:
Hey Mods - I screwed-up !
Somebody already placed this story over
in the Draft Section under the title "Kubiak - #10 pick may be OL? "
Sorry 'bout that.
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There's a sprinkling of what the article means to our current players too. We'll leave it.*


*Especially since that sprinkling was mine.
 
last year, all the talk was about QB and RB, and went with DE. This year they are talking about LT & WR. Is it misdirection, or are these serious possibilities?
 
TexanFan881 said:
This is the first I've heard that the Texans are considering drafting a WR in the first round. Let's face it, we got a new QB, a new RB, lets give Schaub a #2 WR and our offense will be amazing. It's about time we get a solid #2 WR (I was good with Eric but obviously that didn't work out...)
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Joe Thomas BABY!! Matt "Stump The " Schaub needs some protection and we can solidify our line for a long time.
 
Carr Bomb said:
I guess we should start doing some research on Levi Brown
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don't be so quick on Levi(will let you know right now I'm a Levi supporter) but have seen posts on the MB and on combine coverage that Kub's is real high on Ryan Harris OT Notre Dame 6' 4" 299 5.15(40)Maybe think trade down get our 2rd pick back and pick up this kid.
 
Yeah why would they tell everybody that they are going to take a LT when the only one thats going to be around th 10th pick is Brown. I surely hope thay really aren't that dumb........I smell a smoke screen.
 
Kubiak said they might target a left tackle because Charles Spencer is still only 50-50 to make it back by the first game of the season.
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Frankly, I wonder if he's 50-50 to make it back ever.
 
I have no doubt that this whole story could be a Red herring, because
these guys are full of surprises.
Who really saw the Schaub move coming ? That was out of the Blue, and no
one had an inkling.
And taking Mario last year - one for the record books in Draft Annals when it
comes to stunning surprises !
I figure this story may just as easily be a plant to induce a trade from somebody below them vs. a real expression of interest in Levi B.
 
I really dont know who we should draft at #10. I mean sure our O-Line is a question mark, and we could really use DB's or a #2 WR... Adrian Peterson would be hard to pass up too...Its all confusing to me but I guess we just need to continue to watch and see as the draft nears what would are best pick be! Right now im thinking Landry...
 
PapaL said:
If the line can't block, the QB can't throw, the RB cant run, and the Receivers can't catch.
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without another reciever aj becomes no threat like two years ago, our running game gets slaughtered, and the defense has free range to trounce schuab and shell shock him worse than carr. remember this later...schaub is not as tough or as injury free as carr was, if he doesn't have talent and weapons around him, he will get killed and i don't want another 2-14 season or worse!

i say go for cb(leon hall) in round one, no round two pick yay, wr(anthony gonzalez) in round three, de in round four, o-line in five and six, and finish it out with a S in seven.

we can run a two tightend offense in 07 with bruener used as a blocker, owens as a pass catcher, johnson and gonzalez on the outs, ans green in the back field. that will put six blockers on the line three guys out to stretch the safeties, and green to grind away at the defense.

right now we have five solid o line men in pitts, flanagan, mckinney, weary, salaam. If i had my choice it would go Pitts Weary Flanagan McKinney Salaam as our starting line. Spencer, Hogden, Winston, and Black are fill-in guys for now and with Bruener as an extra piece we could limit Schaub to only getting sacked 20-30 times next year.
 
:poker:
Carr Bomb said:
Yeah why would they tell everybody that they are going to take a LT when the only one thats going to be around th 10th pick is Brown. I surely hope thay really aren't that dumb........I smell a smoke screen.
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I concur. They are basically saying Carolina come and get it.
 
skillz24 said:
without another reciever aj becomes no threat like two years ago, our running game gets slaughtered, and the defense has free range to trounce schuab and shell shock him worse than carr. remember this later...schaub is not as tough or as injury free as carr was, if he doesn't have talent and weapons around him, he will get killed and i don't want another 2-14 season or worse!

i say go for cb(leon hall) in round one, no round two pick yay, wr(anthony gonzalez) in round three, de in round four, o-line in five and six, and finish it out with a S in seven.

we can run a two tightend offense in 07 with bruener used as a blocker, owens as a pass catcher, johnson and gonzalez on the outs, ans green in the back field. that will put six blockers on the line three guys out to stretch the safeties, and green to grind away at the defense.

right now we have five solid o line men in pitts, flanagan, mckinney, weary, salaam. If i had my choice it would go Pitts Weary Flanagan McKinney Salaam as our starting line. Spencer, Hogden, Winston, and Black are fill-in guys for now and with Bruener as an extra piece we could limit Schaub to only getting sacked 20-30 times next year.
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Ouch. If that was the starting lineup i'd expect another 2-14 season and Darren McFadden next year for our collective suffering.
 
nunusguy said:
Coach Gary Kubiak disclosed on Tuesday that the Texans may select a left tackle in the first round of the draft despite signing free agent Jordan Black and re-signing Ephraim Salaam.
Although the Texans need another wide receiver to play opposite Andre Johnson, Kubiak said they might target a left tackle because Charles Spencer is still only 50-50 to make it back by the first game of the season.

"Right now, there's a big question about whether or not he makes it back," Kubiak said about Spencer being healthy for the opener. "I think we have to operate as if he's not going to be there."


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4666501.html
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Thomas and Brown will both be gone by the 10th pick. Hopefully AP will still be there. If he is, they need to take him. He will be the gamebreaker that we are seriously lacking on offense as well as a stud for many yrs. too come. We do have Green, but honestly, we might just get a good yr. or two out of him. Might as well fill that need now!! Our O-Line will surprise alot of people this coming season. We need to give Spencer just enough time to heal. He could possibly be at the position for the next 10 yrs. Oh, keep Dayne off of our lineman. Thanks to him Spencer is out.
 
Luv Ya Blue 2007 said:
So, how do you propose we go about getting him?:confused:
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I would give Detroit our no.1 this year & next year for their no.1 this year & their no.2 next year. If they counter offered with their no. 3 next year instead of the no.2 I'd still probably do the trade.
 
Runner said:
IF Spencer makes it back

IF Winston continues to improve.

MAYBE we pick a left tackle in the draft.

Sounds like we are starting a guy who was signed for spot duty as a swing tackle back-up last year, unless the guy who was signed to be a back-up this year beats him out.
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agreed. ty for the heads up nuns.
 
Carr Bomb said:
I guess we should start doing some research on Levi Brown
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Well he's not perfect by any means. And if Spencer comes back at 100% he is only the second best lineman on the team. But...he's more than choped beef. Personally , he has the chance to be best option we've had at OLT ever. Just needs to be coached up on the post leg. They can coach that. Want Matt to succeed ? Levi is the pick.
He gets the bad straightened out..three years from now everyone will say ITYS on the guy.
 
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Originally Posted by El Amigo Invisible
Joe Thomas BABY!! Matt "Stump The " Schaub needs some protection and we can solidify our line for a long time.

Luv Ya Blue 2007 said:
So, how do you propose we go about getting him?:confused:
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The same way we got D'Brick, and Gross and McNeil.

We don't.

This time with good reasons:

First off we simply don't have the ammo after trading for Schaub.

Secondly, in terms of the talent we have, where this team currently sits in the NFL food chain, we're not in a position to be trading up. We should be trading down.

Thirdly, Joe Thomas is not a sure thing. Not so sure as to mortgage our future over him. There is only one 'can't miss' in this draft and that's Calvin Johnson, who we also can't afford.
 
You take the best available player and if there is no one there that bowls you over (say Peterson, Brown, or Landry) then trade down and get a second rounder.
 
I'd much rather take Doug Free in the 4th.

Salaam is the starter and Black is the swing tackle, meanwhile you coach up Free, and hope Spencer returns healthy.
 
nunusguy said:
Coach Gary Kubiak disclosed on Tuesday that the Texans may select a left tackle in the first round of the draft despite signing free agent Jordan Black and re-signing Ephraim Salaam.
Although the Texans need another wide receiver to play opposite Andre Johnson, Kubiak said they might target a left tackle because Charles Spencer is still only 50-50 to make it back by the first game of the season.

"Right now, there's a big question about whether or not he makes it back," Kubiak said about Spencer being healthy for the opener. "I think we have to operate as if he's not going to be there."


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4666501.html
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Kubiak waves his hand.

"These are not the players you want. Somebody sure better take Levi before #10 or we're getting him."

Damn those Jedi mind tricks!
 
"Right now, there's a big question about whether or not he makes it back," Kubiak said about Spencer being healthy for the opener. "I think we have to operate as if he's not going to be there."

thankyou for being honest. Levi goes sub 10th pick anyway at least though you come correct :)
 
I just have a hard time seeing Kubiak almost overtly say what pick we are targetting without it being total smoke and mirrors. It practically begs Atlanta or Miami to grab Brown up...since Kub...the offensive guru sees somethin' special in that LT Brown.

You would swear he really does want Landry or Jamaal to fall to us, ready for us to scoop up since another rival took Brown instead.

They sure were quiet about Schaub and Mario, it caught everyone with their pants down.
 
steelbtexan said:
I would give Detroit our no.1 this year & next year for their no.1 this year & their no.2 next year. If they counter offered with their no. 3 next year instead of the no.2 I'd still probably do the trade.
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Difference in this years picks: 1300 points.
Our #1 next year is worth no more than 500. Their #2 next year is no more than 240.

So, in option 1, you'd need the #14 overall (1,100) to make it even.

The difference between a future two or three is is roughly 125 points, so you're still not close.

The chart is your friend. If you don't believe in it, watch the trades during this year's draft and except for the stuff at the very top (in which the team trading up generally overpays), you'll see that the trade values are close.
 
I don't understand why they don't move Pitts back to LT. Sure he struggled as a rookie, but thats to be expected. He played well in his second year there before they moved him to guard. I would at least put him in the mix.

Ryan Harris would also be a nice pick up (I am a big ND fan - he will be a good T in the league).
 
otisbean said:
I don't understand why they don't move Pitts back to LT. Sure he struggled as a rookie, but thats to be expected. He played well in his second year there before they moved him to guard. I would at least put him in the mix.

Ryan Harris would also be a nice pick up (I am a big ND fan - he will be a good T in the league).
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Pitts wanted to play LT again too but, I would think that the coaches are trying to get some cohesion on the line and it is hard to do that if you keep moving guys around. Plus we didn't take 2 tackles in the 3rd last year for nothing.
"Right now, there's a big question about whether or not he makes it back," Kubiak said about Spencer being healthy for the opener. "I think we have to operate as if he's not going to be there."
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This comment as well as the 50-50 comment have been made for over 3 months now. Even if Spencer is looking good, I am under the impression that Kubiak will continue say these things so he doesn't get caught unprepared.

And that is a good thing.
 
I will be stunned if we take Brown @ 10. Unless AP or Thomas is there I expect a defensive player to be selected barring a trade down. We will not see a receiver selected until 3rd round imo. If we get a second and Staley is available, maybe just maybe. I think we go with the Oline we have signed. Not endorsing just commenting.
 
There could be soooo much misdirection/smoke and mirrors in that statement.

Perhaps Spencer is ready but he's not willing to let other teams figure that out.

Maybe he's talking up Levi so others start saying...hmmm...Levi Brown's pretty good...we could use a LT.

The one thing that's hard for me to imagine is that after Peterson's combine, he keeps dropping further and further on these mock drafts.

I seriously can't see him there at 10. If he is, fantastic...we should get him and dump any RB not named Ahman or Dayne.
 
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