Jayson Braddock on 2014 draft.... Texans twist?

[thunderkyss]

If you didn't listen to Koch&Kalu this morning, here's the podcast.

Very interesting take on this draft, in some ways, against the grain, but obviously in love with the defensive players in this draft. It's a pretty good discussion, worth listening to.

 

[Playoffs]

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock

I won't write another draft evaluation publicly for the rest of my life. IF you lose, same wager. Majority hits win.

I call the "Career vs Career" challenge. Anyone willing to stand behind the guys on the right for 3-4 years. I'll take the left. IF I lose...

I've been accused of making rankings for shock. Never been me, came up with a bet to see who had more convictions behind their evaluations..

16) Phillip Gaines vs Bradley Roby 17) George Uko vs Kareem Martin. I'll take the guys on the left, the majority will take the right.

12) Shayne Skov vs Chris Borland 13) Jimmie Ward vs Haha Clinton-Dix 14) Dion Bailey vs Calvin Pryor 15) Pierre Desir vs Darqueze Dennard

9) Demarcus Lawrence vs Anthony Barr 10) Scott Crichton / Marcus Smith vs Kony Ealy / Jeremiah Attaochu 11) Jordan Zumwalt vs CJ Mosley

6) Allen Robinson / Cody Latimer vs Kelvin Benjamin / Davante Adams 7) Zack Martin vs Jake Matthews 8) Taylor Lewan vs Greg Robinson

4) Isaiah Crowell / Storm Johnson vs Bishop Sankey / Jeremy Hill (Made a couple doubles match) 5) Bruce Ellington vs Marqise Lee

1) Brett Smith vs Johnny Manziel 2) Keith Wenning vs Tom Savage & Logan Thomas (2 for 1) 3) Tre Mason vs Carlos Hyde

 

[badboy]

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock

Don't have time to listen to podcast but is he talking about how players would perform for Texans or just in their careers? I like some of his choices (left) but some on right.

 

[Playoffs]

Don't have time to listen to podcast...

Not about the podcast. Figured this was the JB draft topic.

...is he talking about how players would perform for Texans or just in their careers? I like some of his choices (left) but some on right.

Careers. Can't evaluate based on Texans as they won't get all of these prospects.

JB putting his "underdogs" up against DraftTwitter's "favorites".

 

[IDEXAN]

Listened to the whole segment Thunderkyss, but aren't you a G.Robinson guy and if so what's your response to Braddock's evaluation of the big Auburn OT as being overrated because he's so weak in pass-blocking ?

 

[thunderkyss]

Listened to the whole segment Thunderkyss, but aren't you a G.Robinson guy and if so what's your response to Braddock's evaluation of the big Auburn OT as being overrated because he's so weak in pass-blocking ?

I am concerned... He didn't say Robinson sucked, only that Auburn's offense was run heavy, so he wasn't asked to do very much. Robinson's combine tells me he's athletic enough, so.... I don't know.

 

[mussop]

Not about the podcast. Figured this was the JB draft topic.



Careers. Can't evaluate based on Texans as they won't get all of these prospects.

JB putting his "underdogs" up against DraftTwitter's "favorites".

This is silly

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Listened to the whole segment Thunderkyss, but aren't you a G.Robinson guy and if so what's your response to Braddock's evaluation of the big Auburn OT as being overrated because he's so weak in pass-blocking ?

This is why I think he's a good pick at 1-1 for us.

His strength and experience is in his run blocking. He needs work on his pass blocking.

That sounds like an RT.

So we draft him, plug him in at RT. He's not a threat to DB at LT.

Robinson is then able to come in, be an immediate starter, upgrade our line so much that it's mind-boggling, and still be a guy who could grow into an LT in case we need him to do that in the future.

It all comes down to how you value your line and how you value the 1-1 pick and what you think is going to have the biggest impact on the future of the team.

 

[IDEXAN]

This is why I think he's a good pick at 1-1 for us.

His strength and experience is in his run blocking. He needs work on his pass blocking.

That sounds like an RT.

So we draft him, plug him in at RT. He's not a threat to DB at LT.

Robinson is then able to come in, be an immediate starter, upgrade our line so much that it's mind-boggling, and still be a guy who could grow into an LT in case we need him to do that in the future.

It all comes down to how you value your line and how you value the 1-1 pick and what you think is going to have the biggest impact on the future of the team.

Of course he's not and that's because he's got issues as a pass-blocker. Can't use the 1.1 on a OT who's forte is run-blocking, the opportunity cost is just too much in a strong Draft like this years.
But this Braddock guy is too much in love with Clowney if he says he wouldn't trade our 1.1 to ATL for their 1st and second round picks this year and next years second. But can it be that I've underrated Clowney ?

 

[thunderkyss]

Of course he's not and that's because he's got issues as a pass-blocker. Can't use the 1.1 on a OT who's forte is run-blocking, the opportunity cost is just too much in a strong Draft like this years.
But this Braddock guy is too much in love with Clowney if he says he wouldn't trade our 1.1 to ATL for their 1st and second round picks this year and next years second. But can it be that I've underrated Clowney ?

& Clowney has a lot of things to work on as a pass rusher, then some more as a LB.

None of these guys are perfect. Even Andrew Luck comes into the league having to learn something.

Now that we're not paying the 1st round picks an arm & a leg, I have no problem taking the best OL prospect I can find. Again, Eric Fisher signed a contract where he was getting paid less than what we were paying Eric Winston, who was not very good pass blocking. His forte was in the run game.

& like I said earlier, his "issues" were that he wasn't asked to do a lot of pass blocking because they were so run oriented. He's got the measurables to be a very effective pass blocker.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Of course he's not and that's because he's got issues as a pass-blocker. Can't use the 1.1 on a OT who's forte is run-blocking, the opportunity cost is just too much in a strong Draft like this years.

You couldn't spend 1-1 on a guy with flaws when you were having to pay that guy more than anyone else on your team. But with the changes in the CBA, you can be a lot more flexible with how you approach that 1-1 pick.

If we were still using the old, no-limit rules, then there's no way you draft anyone other than Clowney or the best QB on your board. You had to swing for the fences with the 1-1 under those rules. But now, you can be a lot more prudent.

But this Braddock guy is too much in love with Clowney if he says he wouldn't trade our 1.1 to ATL for their 1st and second round picks this year and next years second. But can it be that I've underrated Clowney ?

Because of his questions, I have Clowney as about the 3-5th guy I'd draft -- and none of the guys I have are QBs, btw. If he lives up to his potential, then he'll probably be the best guy in this draft and should be taken 1st. But for me, there's a big chance he won't live up to that potential so I've downgraded him.

 

[Playoffs]

5) Bruce Ellington vs Marqise Lee

Speaking of South Carolina's Bruce Ellington, who looks like a great slot WR prospect, here he is showing some athleticism at 5'9"...

http://www.mobypicture.com/user/RapSheet/view/16774173

 

[Playoffs]

The Deep Post w/ Jayson Braddock -- 2014 Top 100 NFL Draft Prospects

My top 100 will consist of players who I view as the top 100 most talented NFL prospects, based solely on their performance in college. I’ve highlighted in red some of the players that may have injury concerns, character problems, etc. I do NOT factor these concerns into my rankings. It’s impossible to guess how 32 different teams adjust a guy’s value who’s coming off an ACL injury or a drug problem. I don’t try to read their minds.

Here’s my Top 100 prospects based off my evaluations and how I believe they’ll transition over to the NFL and develop as their career progresses at the next level. Chris Gordy and I will be doing a special NFL Draft show on Wednesday, April 23rd. If you strongly disagree or are looking for more information on why I rank a certain player so high or low, please call in to discuss.

100-11
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10 Jimmie Ward Northern Illinois Free Safety/SS
- Fluid enough to play slot corner, can man up a tight end or stick with a shifty receiver. Great closing speed, instincts of a MLB, cleans up other’s messes, sees the blueprint of the offense. He’s a game changer.

9 Louis Nix Notre Dame 3-4 NT/4-3 DT
- A true NT that can play three downs if needed to. Strong at the point. Scheme diverse

8 Taylor Lewan Michigan Tackle
- Great kick, smooth, can handle speed. Awareness is second to none. Plays with a mean streak and has great hand location.

7 Zack Martin Notre Dame OT/OG
- He’s technically flawless. Great lateral movement, able to step in and play the left or right side, inside or out, power or zone. He has awareness to the complete defense, he’s smart and calculated to overcome arm length.

6 Eric Ebron North Carolina Tight End
- Good hands and the ability to immediately look for YAC. Matchup problem and a headache for opposing defenses to lineup against his NFL team’s personnel grouping. Much better blocker than what he gets credit for.

5 Aaron Donald Pittsburgh 4-3 DT (3 Tech)
- Exceptional get off. Good leverage to hold off 1 man, insane 1 gap penetrator. Ability to win with under arm rip, spin, swim, etc. Great movement skills.

4 Khalil Mack Buffalo 4-3 SOLB
- A killer when operating in space. Great COD and “boxer’s feet”. Gets the OL dancing when creating in space. Sure tackler that zeroes in on the ball and makes textbook tackles. Solid in coverage. Struggles disengaging from talented tackles when in the trenches.

3 Justin Gilbert Oklahoma State CB
- Sure tackler, return specialist, special teams killer. Shutdown corner with great size, length, and speed. Reminds me of a young Champ Bailey.

2 Sammy Watkins Clemson WR
- Top notch, world class acceleration. Shifty outside receiver that can beat the jam and teams have to respect as a decoy. Great hands and a YAC machine, big play threat. He’s a taller, Percy Harvin.

1 Jadeveon Clowney South Carolina 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB
- It’s Jadeveon Clowney. No comparison needed, no rhetoric. This kid is special and you don’t pass on him, trade him, or even acknowledge him without written consent from Chuck Norris.

 

[Playoffs]

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock

10 of the NFL's 32 starting QBs were the first QB selected in their draft class. Also, 10 were the 5th or later QB selected in class.

 

[Playoffs]

JB had this yesterday...

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 16h

The source I talked to said that the Falcons were 1 of those 7-10 teams that had Greg Robinson ranked #1 on their board.

RT @AJCFalcons: Falcons appear to be focusing on Greg Robinson, tackle position http://wp.me/p3Xdod-kJ

Just got off the phone with a very reliable NFL source that's never led me wrong. Asked him if any teams had Greg Robinson #1. Said 7-10 did

 

[disaacks3]

My top 100 will consist of players who I view as the top 100 most talented NFL prospects, based solely on their performance in college.

Complete and utter hogwash. There's nobody who comes up with that list based on that premise.

Could he be right? Sure. The Texans could also win back-to-back superbowls the next two years. I put the likelihood of both about the same.

Trolling for hits, and I'm sure he'll get some.

 

[mussop]

JB had this yesterday...

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock 16h

I've had him 1 since the beginning. To me it's him #1 and Clowney 1a. He has as high ceiling as any player in the draft. He is a safer pick than Clowney.

 

[mussop]

Complete and utter hogwash. There's nobody who comes up with that list based on that premise.

Could he be right? Sure. The Texans could also win back-to-back superbowls the next two years. I put the likelihood of both about the same.

Trolling for hits, and I'm sure he'll get some.

Go look at his QB rankings.

 

[Playoffs]

Complete and utter hogwash. There's nobody who comes up with that list based on that premise.

JB does his own work and knows the game better than 90% of the draftTwitter crowd. The fact his board doesn't look like Kiper's tells you that.

He'll admit when he was wrong. He was right on Kaepernick, and draftTwitter crushed him. We'll see about his rankings in 3 years.

 

[thunderkyss]

Go look at his QB rankings.

In my opinion McCarron is going to be best in a west coast offense. He can’t be asked to take much risk and if the game falls on him things could get ugly. He’s the bastard child of Alex Smith and Andy Dalton. Or if they were remaking “3 Men and a Baby” the three men that raised him and gave McCarron his quarterback traits would be Smith, Dalton, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitz would play Tom Selleck, but replace the 80’s mustache with the 2010’s neck beard.

Read more: http://www.sports790.com/onair/the-...sing-2nd-to-7th-round-12053064/#ixzz30awjaXE2

Sounds about right to me. I know Dalton, Smith, & Fitzpatrick don't excite to many people around here, but they win. Well, except Fitzpatrick, but he's got the beard.

There isn't a franchise QB in this draft. No one to lead us to the Super Bowl. Next best thing is to win a lot of games & that's Aj McCarron. Not becuase he "just wins" but because he's smart, he's accurate, he sees the field, He undersands ball placement & touch.

I think he's going to look like Matt Schaub in his prime. I believe, with very high probablility, that he'll look like that guy we thought could get us to a Super Bowl if everything else was working the way it should. Remember, there is no franchise QB in this draft.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

I think he's going to look like Matt Schaub in his prime. I believe, with very high probablility, that he'll look like that guy we thought could get us to a Super Bowl if everything else was working the way it should. Remember, there is no franchise QB in this draft.

While I personally don't have a problem with that, you may want to consider your audience and the fact that to a lot of people stuck on this past year and a half of his, this is not a glowing recommendation.

 

[thunderkyss]

While I personally don't have a problem with that, you may want to consider your audience and the fact that to a lot of people stuck on this past year and a half of his, this is not a glowing recommendation.

Matt Schaub in his prime was one of the best QBs in the league. Not much of a winner, but what do you expect coming out of Virginia.

Had we drafted Matt Schaub in 2007, instead of trading for him 4 years into his career, Kubiak would look like a competent head coach instead of the guy who held on too long.

 

[Lucky]

Had we drafted Matt Schaub in 2007, instead of trading for him 4 years into his career, Kubiak would look like a competent head coach instead of the guy who held on too long.

I'd ask you to explain this, but I'm pretty sure the explanation would give me a headache.

"Robert E. Lee in his prime was one of the best generals in the Civil War. Not much of a winner, but what do you expect coming out of Virginia."

 

[thunderkyss]

I'd ask you to explain this, but I'm pretty sure the explanation would give me a headache.

Four of his prime years was wasted behind Vick. He didn't start to gel in Kubiak's offense until he was knocking on 30.

"Robert E. Lee in his prime was one of the best generals in the Civil War. Not much of a winner, but what do you expect coming out of Virginia."

Right. Imagine if he came out of UT



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[drs23]

Four of his prime years was wasted behind Vick. He didn't start to gel in Kubiak's offense until he was knocking on 30.



Right. Imagine if he came out of UT

ZZZZZZZZing! Dayum, that made me laff. QUIT IT!

 

[The Pencil Neck]

Matt Schaub in his prime was one of the best QBs in the league.

You know I was just messing with you about it.

 

[Playoffs]

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock

Allen Hurns, Seantrel Henderson, Stephen Morris, Brandon Linder, Asante Cleveland RT >>>>>>>>>> any Miami hurricanes getting drafted

Suspect long speed, nice lateral step, good accel Undersized slot guy. 6th/7th rd. Makes contested catches, shifty YAC RT >>>>>>>> Thoughts on Jeremy Gallon WR from Michigan?

I'd personally go round 3 & 6, but my guess is trade #33 & take QB in 2nd RT >>>>>>>>>>> When do you see them taking a QB?

Smart zone CB. Bites on fakes. Explosive to the ball. Day 3 pick, IMO RT >>>>>> Thoughts on Andre Hal CB from Vandy?

47.2%. Depends on target. Bills if OT or QB or ATL RT >>>>>>>>what is the % that Texans trade out of first pick? With what team?

If no Clowney. Lawrence / Smith Rd 2 RT >>>>>>>>Depending on what they do at #1 the OLB battle will be one of the more intriguing.

He's my #2. Top 45 will be up on RotoExperts Mon. RT >>>>>>>I have Allen Robinson as my 3rd overall WR in this years class. Crazy?

Sapp more likely to shift behind Reed & Trevardo to battle w/ Whitney troubled by lack of ability to get off pulling blocks. Out-played by Sapp. RT >>>>>>>How do you feel about him now?

Said he was Wade's type of guy. Effort,worker. They tried to get DeCastro MT >>>>>>>What were your thoughts on Mercilus pre draft?

I remember interviewing Terry Shea with @HankKoebler about Blaine Gabbert a few years back. Spoke so glowingly about young Blaine.

Take what QB coaches say about their pupils with the value of Pinocchio at a motivational speaking class. Like criticizing their own kids.

#1 Trade down #2 Jadev..."uh was that the phone, tell'em we'll trade" MT >>>>>>>you think the Texans are leaning more towards trade?

Every year I try to go back & find out why I missed on a guy. It took me a few years on Aldon Smith / Chandler Jones. (Unorthodox Agility)

I also had Cam Jordan as my #1 ranked 5 tech, slightly ahead of JJ Watt. Both are great, but Watt turned out to be non-human.

Yes had Watt ranked top 15. Quinn/Fairley top 8 MT @texanfan2785 were you surprised Texans went w Watt over Fairley & Quinn in 2011 draft

On Bowers, I didn't know how serious the knee injury was. One things teams will always have over the media...medical.

My underrated list from 2011 had Kaepernick / Cam Jordan / Fairley / Bowers /Jimmy Smith / Robert Quinn / Akeem Ayers / Rodney Hudson

Honestly, I loved him! Thought he'd be a stud. RT @Greek_QB: What about Eagles pick, Danny Watkins?

Didn't view Aldon Smith as a top 10 pick. Swing and a miss!

I thought Cam was a middle of the 1st round QB, didn't view him as worthy of the #1 pick. Amukamara I never liked at CB, saw him as a FS.

Remember my overrated players list from 2011 had: Cam Newton / Gabbert / Ponder / Aldon Smith / Prince Amukamara / Clayborn / Baldwin

2011 Draft had Andy Dalton & Colin Kaepernick go in the 2nd rd. Some other good players there, but no one that you would take over those QBs

Jags fans haunted by JJ Watt whiff...Texans could return the favor by passing on Clowney RT >>>>>>nice to help a divisional opponent like that!

The Vikings took Christian Ponder, the next 2 picks were Nick Fairley and Robert Quinn. Double OUCH!

The Jaguars took Blaine Gabbert. The next pick was JJ Watt. Ouch!

Tennessee took Jake Locker, who I like, but not as a Top 10 pick. The next pick was a franchise LT, Tyron Smith.

Let's go back to 2011 to look at what happens when a team reaches for a QB instead of taking BPA. We'll look at next player or 2 drafted.

IF the QBs in this class played another position, they wouldn't be drafted until round 2 or later. The 2nd round QBs would be day 3 picks.

 

[Playoffs]

Jayson Braddock ‏@JaysonBraddock

The source said that this was based off their opinion, but "an informed one". Again, they said Smith's playing it close & they "love it".

When asked what was Rick Smith looking for in return of trading the #1 pick? Source said, "Ricky Williams like terms!" #Texans

I asked why all the info planting, they said that Rick is "fishing for deals, no doubt". Went on to say, "Desperate ones". #Texans

When questioned about Houston selecting a quarterback in the Top 10, the source said they "would be shocked if that happened". #Texans

The source said that this was clearly their own opinion but expected the player the #Texans want to be selected Wed or trade could be coming

I asked specifically about the "FORS" friends of Rick Smith comments. The source said "Lol @ that story". Repeated it was planned in Feb.

Source said Rick revealed in Feb. that he would "plant" stuff everywhere. Again, the #Texans are the house & playing with a stacked deck.

..."generational" player. Source also said there was only 1 "generational" player in this draft. Source said Rick is trolling the waters.

While the source said that Rick Smith is being smart, safe, & playing it close to the vest, he'd be surprised if Houston didn't take the...

The source said "Rick Smith will not outsmart himself". Smith holds the cards & he's dealing out the Jokers & can trump anyone. #Texans

Been hesitant about bothering a source w/ an educated assessment on the situation for the #Texans. 4 Days away, tons of rumors..it was time.

 

[The Pencil Neck]

I'd take a Ricky Williams type of deal.

 

[Playoffs]

Without further ado, here are my Top 45 Wide Receiver Prospects:

1. Sammy Watkins – Acceleration king, a bigger Percy Harvin. Allen Robinson's versatility makes him a valuable draft pick.
2. Allen Robinson – Versatile. Can play the X, Y, or Z spot on his new team.
3. Odell Beckham Jr – Great combination of size, shiftiness and hands.
4. Mike Evans – A true matchup problem and red zone threat.
5. Cody Latimer – Good size and speed combo. Should go into a great situation.
6. Bruce Ellington – True slot receiver, instant impact in 2014.
7. Brandin Cooks – Reliable, fast and shifty. Straight line speed to burn.
8. Jarvis Landry – Not fast, but understands how to get open and catches everything
9. Michael Campanaro – Not flashy, has good bulk on a small frame. Sells routes.
10. Martavis Bryant – Raw. Would have been a first rounder next year. True boom or bust.
11. Robert Herron – Uses speed to separate, not a great route runner. YAC attack.
12. Marqise Lee – Devin Hester and Troy Williamson in one. Great with ball in his hands. Body catcher with questionable hands.
13. Davante Adams – Good hands and concentration. Possession guy with YAC ability
14. Jared Abbrederis – Sick, sick routes. Best route runner in ’14 class. Possession guy.
15. Josh Huff – Could be Chip Kelly’s new Desean Jackson. Insane balance.
16. Jordan Matthews – Doesn’t get much separation, good hands. Zone buster.
17. L’Damian Washington – Would be an ideal, 6’4 slot receiver. Accelerates well and shifty in traffic.
18. Albert Wilson – Poor man’s TY Hilton. Will kill defenses on drag route.
19. Kevin Norwood – Possession receiver similar to Brandon Lloyd.
20. Walt Powell – Smart route runner, agile after the catch. Made for return/slot job in the NFL.
21. Kelvin Benjamin – Situational, developmental receiver. Runs poor routes, has questionable hands but size intrigues. Best as a tight end.
22. Allen Hurns – Maybe the best receiver in this class when it comes to concentration.
23. Jalen Saunders – If it wasn’t for his size (163 lbs.), he’d be a first round slot WR.
24. Erik Lora – Sells his routes; shifty and tough to bring down. Turn and run guy.
25. Donte Moncrief – Hardest receiver to have an opinion on. He could be worthy of a second round pick but hard to gauge on film. Great long speed, lacks acceleration and had drops.
26. John Brown – Small school speed burner that’s hard to matchup with.
27. Jeff Janis – A-plus routes and acceleration but a top 10 Talent that falls due to hands.
28. Eric Ward – Hines Ward clone, makes catches under stress, willing blocker.
29. Devin Street – Reminded me of a slimmer Rod Streater. Contributor, not great.
30. Paul Richardson – Project receiver. People love his speed but routes are mediocre, he’s undersized with small hands and doesn’t separate well.
31. Cody Hoffman – Great size. Possession guy that’ll get open, but not WOW you.
32. TJ Jones – Big hands, built like a slot receiver, plays like an outside guy.
33. Chandler Jones – 4.3 speed slot receiver who doesn’t display that speed in game often.
34. Quincy Enunwa – A faster, bigger Mohamed Sanu. Physical, possession receiver.
35. Jeremy Gallon – Able to make contested catches and has a nasty lateral step.
36. Jeremy Butler – Great turn after catch for a bigger guy. Solid blocker and good hands.
37. Isaiah Burst – Good punt returner, great balance. Dexter McCluster type.
38. Matt Hazel – Does a lot of things decent, nothing great.
39. Brandon Coleman – Despite his 6’6”/225 lb. frame, he’s not a great blocker and lacks good hands. Very awkward.
40. Ryan Grant – Lacks great speed and runs only serviceable routes but will highpoint in traffic.
41. DJ Coles – Similar to Brandon Coleman in the sense that you want both to be great with their rare size, but they fail to impress.
42. James Logan – Outside receiver who will struggle to win job in the NFL.
43. Shaq Evans – Could be a serviceable possession guy, but has to improve on drops.
44. Alex Neutz – Good acceleration off the line, but will need to become more aggressive.
45. Tevin Reese – Small guy who wins with speed alone but has questionable hands.