sec231beast said:
Wrong...nice try though. Go look at the league attendance numbers. We rank 14th in the league, and we ARE the smallest market!! We don't have Milwaulkee neighboring us like Green Bay does......And we've only been around 10 years! Go look at the numbers.
Not only that.....half of our population is military and transplants......so we are really working with about 450,000 native Jacksonvilians. I read a stat that to fill our oversized stadium 1 out of every 20 people in the city would have to go to the game, compared to a city like Detroit where only 1 out of 100 people would have to attend. So taking all that into consideration you can't compare Detroit and Jacksonville
If we had the population of Detroit, we would also sell out every game easily.
And you should go back and read what the petition is about before commenting on it......The petition is not about "attendance" or "saving the Jags"....It is a notice to our Mayor to quit trying to screw Wayne Weaver out of money that was promised to him....Which is making hard for Weaver to turn a profit in such a small market.....Which has led Wayne to state that he cannot continue to lose money and some changes need to be made. :brickwall So your statement really holds no water........
#1, you are not the smallest market in the country. And the popluation in Jax goes up, while the attendance goes down. Even while the team is a playoff team. 10,000 seats being black tarped out, all but 2 home games being blacked out. Jax is IN FLORIDA, which is one of the biggest population centers in the country, also one of the most condensed. 80 mile radius around that stadium you have millions upon millions of uncarring people. Orlando is a short drive away. Jax is south of Georgia, no one there cares about football, the 3rd team in a state with 2 other teams that have enough trouble getting thier fans to show up. So no one cares about them there either.
#2,
so we are really working with about 450,000 native Jacksonvilians
I read a stat that to fill our oversized stadium 1 out of every 20 people in the city would have to go to the game, compared to a city like Detroit where only 1 out of 100 people would have to attend.
Detroit has a native population of about 900,000. how do you turn that into 1 out of 100? Also, I would bet the quality of life in jax is a little higher than it is in native Detroit. Detroit has more fans outside of the city limits. But not even close to the population center right by your team.
#3
It is a notice to our Mayor to quit trying to screw Wayne Weaver out of money that was promised to him....Which is making hard for Weaver to turn a profit in such a small market.....Which has led Wayne to state that he cannot continue to lose money and some changes need to be made. :brickwall So your statement really holds no water.
The NFL is a license to print money, the dispute is over advertising inside of the stadium. If Wayne Weaver gets that money, who do you think it benifits? You? Atleast if the city gets it you have the slightest chance to ever see it again. Why would you side with the owner of a football team about money that should be going into your schools. Even the Arizona Cardinals can make money. IF Wayne Weaver is crying broke he shouldn't be running a team in the NFL. If he is unhappy now, it's because of greed.
#4. The Jaguars ranked 13th. with a 16 thousand per game boost. It took 16 thousand more people per game to get to 13th. How much of that is because the superbowl was being held in the city that year though? Do we expect that 10 thousand seat tarp to expand to 20,000 in 2005?
I do.
#5. Even if Weaver gets his electronic advertising in the stadium, that isn't going to change the apathetic attitude of Floridians and Jags Football
#6. Even Tampa hasn't dipped past 60,000 per game range since 1996, Miami has flirted with the 73,000 range for years. in 2003 Jax was at 53,000 which is WELL short of the capacity for that stadium (without seat tarp). Something the 13th ranking spot doesn't take into effect, not every team has the same capacity as attel stadium. The Teams above Jax in that ranking are selling out, the teams below are selling out. Jax never sells out.
The Jags are in a doomed spot, and they should move, move to California where no one will care about them either.
THE NFL expansion reached 2 teams too many.
My statements hold plently of water.
and Bob Lanier the mayor of Houston at the time. 
