If we pick up Carr's option we will suck for a decade

[281]

Finaly somebody that makes sense.

And does not just throw acusations out there.

The main reason we have put that offense in is because of Carr's inability to throw the deep ball accurately or challenge the middle of the field... His only pass attempt past 20 yards was a pick-six. His completions almost always have to come on a hitch, dump-off, or screen since he is locked on to his target for the entire time he has the ball. He only got sacked once, and when there was some pressure on the tackles, he didn't step up in the pocket to throw the ball. Sure, there were a few drops, but there were many more misreads/inaccurate throws. The season is clearly over, we've already clinched another below .500 season, we might as well see what else we have at the QB position.

:brickwall

 

[NFLforher]

Can everybody stop harping on Carr? He can only do the plays that are called for him, with the time that is alloted to him.

True. I was just listening to sports talk radio here in California and they were talking how great Carr looked and how they would like to see him in silver and black and that he would be great on other teams.

 

[NFLforher]

When he threw that pick last night and instead of chasing after the defender he threw his hands in the air...he lost me. Good for him if he can be successul elsewhere, but he is simply not worth an $8 million bonus and three year contract extension.

He threw his hands in the air because the receiver just stood there and didn't attempt to go after the guy who caught the interception. Most receivers will turn and attempt to tackle the defender.

 

[NFLforher]

Carr was constantly dumping the ball or throwing the ball quickly. He only "had time" becuase he was getting rid of it so fast. look at what manning does the next time he plays and you will see a big difference. Manning takes a few steps back and looks all over the field. Want to know why Carr doesnt? If he did, he's be sacked behind this pathetic Swiss Cheese line of ours. Put a real line in front of him, show him he atually will be protected, and then you will see his play.

Oh, and also we need to stop this Mickey Mouse style of Play calling.

I agree totally.

 

[real]

He threw his hands in the air because the receiver just stood there and didn't attempt to go after the guy who caught the interception. Most receivers will turn and attempt to tackle the defender.

So that makes it exscusable for him to look at the guy and throw his hands up?

 

[NFLforher]

So that makes it exscusable for him to look at the guy and throw his hands up?

Yeah.

 

[real]

So that makes it exscusable for him to look at the guy and throw his hands up?

Im neither a Carr Hater or a Carr Supporter. I get mad at times because he makes some awful descisons and at times makes even worse throws. But I do agree that we should build around him, get a new coaching staff, make changes on the o-line and then see what we truly have in him.

 

[real]

Yeah.

how does that make it o.k? he's our last line when an interception is thrown and he shouldn't have been paying attention to whether or not the guy was trying to make the tackle; he should've been more concerned with making it.

 

[Porky]

Wow, that is just pathetic IMO. There is plenty of room for crticizing Carr's on field performance but the insults, character comments and now I guess accusations of mortal sins that are flying around here are out of line IMO.

I didn't say he committed one of the seven deadly sins, but I will say he is at Number 8 with a bullet.

BTW - lighten up. Just a bit of wicked satire to help stir the pot a bit.

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Hey... Peyton Manning made a tackle in the Bengals game on an interception . If he can do it I guess its not to much to ask of Carr to put his hands down and stop being Jeff George jr..

 

[GP]

I used to be a Carr Hater.

They make the guy throw quick outs over and over and over. Someone was bound to jump the route at some point, and they could do it because they had the point margin to try it.

He is better than he looks this season. The whole team is in shambles. Other than special teams, which only gets to score when we just gotscored on ourselves, is the only unit playing worth their salaries. The coaching is just abismal and deficient in ever manner and I now feel in my heart that Carr is a victim of that. His attitude was horrible at the start of the season, and it has gotten better. I think talking to Dilfer really turned him around. You can see that he is just shaking off the bad stuff and now he's thinking about next year. And in the meantime Carr knows he doesn't have to throw Capers under the bus because he's already marked for extinction.

The guy can play. Remember the juke and score he made against the Saints last year on a QB keeper? Phenomenal athleticism. And the dive over the pile against Jacksonville last year to win the game? Gutsy and determined. And his passes when thrown in the pocket are lasers and usually on target.

No, I say re-structure his contract and keep him here. Leinart is good, but he's not a savior (bum knee, weak schedule, low mobility). Reggie Bush is more worthy of our pick than Leinart ever will be. Could you imagine AJ, Mathis, Bush? My goodness. Anyway, the point is that NFL QBs out of college have recently been lower quality than usual with Palmer and Roethlisberger the exception. Therefore, dance with the guy who brung ya' (Carr) and get more talent on the team. I'd rather get a stud o linemen on our line and see what Carr can do with that and with a beter coaching staff.

But really al of it comes down to whether we have a hobby owner or a business owner. A hobby owner will spend the dough to get the goods, and a business owner will nickel and dime us to death just barely getting by with mid-level talent and tinkering every off-season. I fear we have a business owner, and if he tinkers with this team instead of giving us the goods, then I will be sorely disappointed. Yeah, thanks for bringing NFL football back to Houston so we can look like a flag football team (and "Yes" that comment was mostly for Phyllis Buchanon).

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Hulk please enlighten us as to what we should see . I mean we just can't seem to grasp it .
The bottom line is ... should Carr get a bonus for his play . We know the OLis not that good , we know the scheme is bad , we are talking about the QB play . Has he shown enough to be given an extension for 2-3 more years ?

 

[Vinny]

When the organization surrounds him with great talent, and he can't do anything. (See Joey Harrington).

Carr IS supposed to be that "great talent" that is brought in to help out the less talented but he hasn't lived up to his hype. What we get out of Carr we could get out of a journeyman QB and use that wasted money to bring in better players.

 

[Tex-fan0604]

How do u expect him to live up to all the hype when he gets no help at all.he's only one player and you have to remember this is a team sport and it takes everyone to make a play.

 

[Wolf]

I don't speak for Vinny (and he doesn't need it), but I agree with him.

I see a horse before the cart or cart before the horse scenario

One had we have Carr and who does he have to draw a defense away from the box.. AJ and that is basiclly it.. Bradford and <insert any TE> doesn't help at this point.. DD is a solid back but doesn't scare a defense (i.e. for you Wells hater and DD lovers..they have about the same stats overall).. with that Carr has his hands TE by the offense

other hand.. Carr doesn't help himself out either.. his reads are slow (when he has time) and he misses alot of reads.. and his reads seem to be 1st option.. then DD ..

 

[tsip]

When the organization surrounds him with great talent, and he can't do anything. (See Joey Harrington).

...so, this is the standard in the NFL? QB's can only be successful when everything around them is perfect!?....gotta love it!

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Carr is not a great talent . The year he was drafted he was rated a 4.68 out of a possible 6.0 . The rating of a 5.0 to a 6.0 was considered a great talent .

 

[Honoring Earl 34]

Gil Brandt NFL.com . I guess he's a moron to.

 

[thunderkyss]

I completely agree with touttail. The announcers were mentioning all the time during the game. He locks on his primary receiver and if the guy is covered he will either run out of bounds for a loss or throw an interception.

His mechanics are terrible and he is the most inaccurate QB in the NFL right now. He has more one-hoppers and throws that are 3 feet over the receivers heads than any QB that I have seen in the NFL this year. Our offensive line sucks but last night it gave him some time and he still couldn't do anything with it.

Draft Bush or trade out of the first pick to get Ferguson and another pick. Let Carr leave town and bring in a free agent veteran QB. Of course fire Casserly and Capers and bring in guys who can atually coach and spot talent. We will be back on the road to respectability if we do that.

Wow Texans Fight, you were for getting rid of Carr even when there wasn't a valid option......... I commend you for sticking to your guns sir.

 

[HJam72]

Bench Carr, see if you have anything with Ragone for the rest of the season. Carr is horribly inaccurate and can only make a screen pass or a 5 yard out. His mechanics are terrible and he is shot. Chalk up him up as a bust and move on. The franchise will be better for it. If we pick up the option we will be in cap hell when we finally hire a GM and coaching staff who realize we have a bust on their hands.

Here's the reply:

**** you!!! My team didn't execute.

Here's the commentary:

hjam is always right carr is a stud vy will bust bush will bust trade down trade down can't you see what do usc d sucks go tejas!!! :

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Boom! there it is.