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IF our season goes well, Kubiak will be HC & GM all in one

swtbound07 said:
A sub .500 year is bad. Capers had 4 bad years. Perhaps you were thrilled with his record, but we are not. Having 3 seasons where you cant crack the SIX win barrier is not an abberation. It is also wrong of you to call Kubiak a blunder with his first game not under his belt yet. Who would you rather they have hired? Oh wait, you would rather have weathered the 2-14 storm with capers, in hopes that he could return us to our 5-11 2003 glory.

What are you talking about? The best an expansion team ever did in its first year was 7-9 -- a record Capers accomplished, by the way. To say that you expect the coach of an expansion team to win right away is beyond belief and ludicrous. In regards to Kubiak, you once again have proven my point by pointing out the fact that he hasn't even had a game "under his belt" where he was the head coach. Oh, yes. Kubiak was indeed a blunder. And it keeps getting worse.
 
mancunian said:
Give me one example where thats worked? Holmgren was both at Seatltle and they got better when he had the GM role taken off him.

Shanahan, if I am not mistaken, is the guy who really wields the player personnel decisions. He gets who he wants.

Parcells also wields about the same amount of power. He said he wouldn't come back unless the Cowboys "let him buy the ingredients if he was going to cook the meal...." Remember that quote? And last time I checked, since Parcells came to the Cowboys...they have done better than Chan Gailey, Second-year Switzer, etc. That team was a wreck before Parcells came to them. They're not world beaters yet (no pun intended) but they're on track.

So, yeah...I think some guys do it well.
 
Bobo said:
What are you talking about? The best an expansion team ever did in its first year was 7-9 -- a record Capers accomplished, by the way. To say that you expect the coach of an expansion team to win right away is beyond belief and ludicrous. In regards to Kubiak, you once again have proven my point by pointing out the fact that he hasn't even had a game "under his belt" where he was the head coach. Oh, yes. Kubiak was indeed a blunder. And it keeps getting worse.

I think I finally figured it out. Bobo, you're my dad....I knew that was you, you grumpy old fart. How the heck ya' been? Still grumpy after all these years.

Seriously, you're ragging on us for pointing out a very sub-par Capers regime....and yet you bomb the guy (Kubiak) relentlessly who has done a better job of off-season moves than Capers EVER did in all four seasons at Houston COMBINED.

The hits just keep on coming...........:whip:
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I think I finally figured it out. Bobo, you're my dad....I knew that was you, you grumpy old fart. How the heck ya' been? Still grumpy after all these years.

Seriously, you're ragging on us for pointing out a very sub-par Capers regime....and yet you bomb the guy (Kubiak) relentlessly who has done a better job of off-season moves than Capers EVER did in all four seasons at Houston COMBINED.

The hits just keep on coming...........:whip:

Your post wasn't very funny, nor was it informative, nor was it topical. Besides, sounds to me like you have issues. Seriously.
 
Bobo said:
What are you talking about? The best an expansion team ever did in its first year was 7-9 -- a record Capers accomplished, by the way. To say that you expect the coach of an expansion team to win right away is beyond belief and ludicrous. In regards to Kubiak, you once again have proven my point by pointing out the fact that he hasn't even had a game "under his belt" where he was the head coach. Oh, yes. Kubiak was indeed a blunder. And it keeps getting worse.


Thats a bit disingenuous dont you think? The best an expansion team ever did in its first year was 7-9. True

Capers did post a 7-9 record. Also true

Juxtaposing those two statements together makes it appear as if capers went 7-9 in his first year, which he did not.

Every expansion team in the history of the NFL has had at least one .500 season with the exception of the houston texans under capers leadership. THAT is true.

As far as your nonsensical post about kubiak. You have ABSOLUTELY no idea how kubiak will do. None. Unless you've got some magic crystal ball, you can be wrong. People were saying you cant start a rookie quarterback and win games. Rothlisberger broke that stereotype. Kubiak can be successfull. Will he be? Heck if i know. However, condemning him because he hasnt been a head coach before is willfull ignorance. What about the other 8 teams in the NFL being run by coordinators turned head coaches? Are they all doomed to failure too? or is it just Kubiak that you hold a grudge for.
 
swtbound07 said:
Every expansion team in the history of the NFL has had at least one .500 season with the exception of the houston texans under capers leadership. THAT is true.

With the benefit of time, everyone eventually gets there.

Denver didn't see a .500 season until its 14th year
New Orleans didn't see a .500 season until its 13th year
Atlanta didn't see a .500 season until its 6th year
Miami didn't see a .500 season until its 5th year

Argue the definition of expansion team if you want (Miami (AFL), New Orleans and Atlanta were all expansion teams - Denver was a charter AFL entrant), but the four teams I mention started at the same place the Texans did - at ground zero - yes, in an era prior to free agency but also with no expansion draft kick start either.
 
Bobo said:
Your post wasn't very funny, nor was it informative, nor was it topical. Besides, sounds to me like you have issues. Seriously.

No, the guy who can't find anything positive to say about Kubiak has problems. I can understand a few weeks, or heck....even a few months...of hating Kubiak since Capers is your pal and all. But to keep on this downward spiral with all the energy you can muster, well...it's just sad.

Add to it that you have not ONE funny bone in your body, the fact that you can't loosen up for even a second, makes me actually feel sorry for you.

Quit being such a Doug Downer and just...let...it...go. Capers is gone. The Texans are still in Houston, and your allegiance is so far from this team right now that it makes me shake my head.

Go TEXANS.
 
forget about a .500 season. Ties are not good.

Don't make me whip the Bear Bryant out...

Playoffs are the goal. Why? because it makes the season worth it. Make it to the playoffs and anything can happen, don't make it to the playoffs and nothing will happen. In a 4 team division this should not be such a big hassle.

Nothing except getting a crap drafting slot.
 
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