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Halftime adjustments question…
- Thread starter NitroGSXR
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As for myself, you probably already knew that I've had had this conspiracy going for decades, that the NFL and Vegas are in bed together; adjustment makes less and less sense.
In my theory, there were many instances where both teams are allowed to have a chance to win a game toward the end.
The coaches better make sure that they reserve those plays for that purpose.
Other instances where a team trails big time, that seemingly made adjustments to come back to win the game are much more rare. And that would be the better team to begin with.
They just seem to be sleepwalking in the first half.
The chance for a underdog, especially the real dog, to come back from a large deficit is very small.
There was a period where Overtime spiked lately, but not so much this year.
"The fix" is getting more sotisphicated over the years.
It's the Over/Under where they want to control, what with all the parlay bet.
Both Vegas and the NFL try to stay out of controversy, though the big games are still very controversial at times.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Peyton Manning says halftime adjustments are 'the biggest myth in football'
NFL halftimes are pretty short, and Peyton Manning says teams aren't actually making meaningful changes during the break.
www.insider.com
Peyton Manning says halftime adjustments aren’t real.
With the surface pads they have you would think adjustments are happening throughout the game and not just halftime.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Week 5 (not counting MNF)
7 Overs (49ers and Saints almost covered the over by themselves lol)
6 Unders
Tonights O/U is 45.5. I bet it goes Under just to be 50%
The big name sports are now entertainement rather than "sport".
Read their mission statements.
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The NBA may not have the term "entertainment" in the core mission statement, but it's spelled out among their business goals.
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Sports have always been about entertainmentThe big name sports are now entertainement rather than "sport".
Read their mission statements.
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The NBA may not have the term "entertainment" in the core mission statement, but it's spelled out among their business goals.
NBA Mission Statement And Vision Analysis 2021 - How I Got The Job
NBA Mission And Vision Statement Analysis - The NBA is the world's biggest professional basketball league consisting of 30 teams located in the United States.
Sure, but this is what I get when I pause the question to AI GPT Chat.
NFL Origin: Sport vs. Entertainment
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Did the NFL start out as a sport league rather than an entertainment business?
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The NFL (National Football League) originated as a professional football league with a primary focus on sports, rather than entertainment. It was founded in 1920 as the American Professional Football Association (APFA) and later became the NFL in 1922. While entertainment has become a significant aspect of the NFL over the years, its core purpose has always been to organize and promote American football as a sport. However, the league's popularity and commercialization have led to a strong entertainment component, including events like the Super Bowl, halftime shows, and TV broadcasts that incorporate entertainment elements.
And this was their pay.
Early NFL Player Salaries
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What was the salary of the early nfl players when the league just started?
When the National Football League (NFL) was first established in 1920, players did not receive fixed salaries like modern athletes. Instead, they were paid on a per-game basis, and the salaries were relatively modest by today's standards. Early NFL players often earned around $100 to $300 per game, with some star players earning slightly more. Keep in mind that these figures were a far cry from the multi-million-dollar contracts seen in today's NFL. Additionally, players had to cover their own expenses, including travel and equipment, in many cases. The financial landscape of the NFL has evolved significantly since its inception.
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I don't think the players thought of themselves as entertainers back then.
NitroGSXR
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Sounds a lot like my CMRA motorcycle racing days. We paid to play… and we took it seriously. No sponsors or anything like that. We didn’t do this for money. We did it because we wanted to go fast. Today’s players aren’t all on the same level in that capacity. They’re soft.
I'm sorry to go off topic in adjustment thread, but gambling on sports has gone on since the beginning of sports. The 3 things that have drastically decreased the likelihood of gambling influencing the games are, 1) the salaries of the players, 2) the number of eyes on the games, and 3) gambling becoming more above board and accessible. The "scam" is at an all-time low, if not non-existent.
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Hervoyel
BUENO!
All true. Doesn't change how I feel about it.
austins23
Hall of Fame
Yep, it went Under. 50/50 split on O/U's for Week 5.
It doesn't happen like that all the time, but over the course of several seasons, things often end up just like so.
The only trend is that Home Favorites don't cover the spread enough.
However, if you figure in the house 10% premium, bettors always lose, especially because they often run out of money first.
And musicians think of themselves as artists and actors think of themselves as gods.
It doesn't matter what they think. What they are, and have always been, is entertainers. Perception is reality.
As far as halftime adjustments, I don't think it's as dramatic as Hollywood or the media has made it out. They've barely got time to get to the locker room, take a leak, and eat some orange slices before they've got to get back to the field.
I must disagree.
In the early days, players played simply because they like sports.
There are thousand of amateur leagues of all sort of sports around the country.
Many of the games are played without spectator.
Are the players entertaining the ghost?
In the decades of the past, many minor league baseball games were played without spectator.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Every team makes adjustments throughout the game and after the half. Well they at least try.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Yep. Maybe a few words about something that's working really well or not at all. Probably a continuation of a conversation from the sideline at best. Nothing they can adjust at halftime that they can't adjust while the other side of the ball is on the field during the game.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
Were they paid despite there being no spectators? If so… how does that work?
Even though I completely agree with this I have seen some amazing turnarounds from half to half. I'm sure it has more to do with fatigue & other factors on the field. Still I can see how an urban myth would spring up about halftime adjustments.
Local businesses and wealthy individuals on the independently owned teams.
So there were spectators after all?
Minor league baseball salaries had always been peanuts, especially in the old days.
I have read about teams in the Texas League, for example, that failed to make payroll and folded in the middle of the season.
The East Texas League lasted just over a week.
1931 East Texas League (ETL) Minor League Baseball on StatsCrew.com
Check out the Minor League Baseball statistics and rosters from the 1931 East Texas League (ETL) on StatsCrew.com.
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Half-time adjustment might be an overused term, but it does exist to a certain level.
Here it was spelled out that the Bills made an adjustment in that infamous game against the Oilers.
‘The biggest myth in football’: Halftime adjustments, only sometimes a thing
Do halftime changes change a game? David Cutcliffe, Ralph Friedgen, Frank Reich and Kirby Smart share their thoughts.
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The Bills switched up to a 34 defense and then to a 34 zone coverage on apparent passing downs.
The Pencil Neck
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The big name sports are now entertainement rather than "sport".
Read their mission statements.
Careers at Major League Baseball | MLB.com
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The official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more.
The NBA may not have the term "entertainment" in the core mission statement, but it's spelled out among their business goals.
NBA Mission Statement And Vision Analysis 2021 - How I Got The Job
NBA Mission And Vision Statement Analysis - The NBA is the world's biggest professional basketball league consisting of 30 teams located in the United States.
And here I thought that 100% of the idea of major league sports was entertainment. Guess I've been missing something all along.
The Pencil Neck
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Yes, you missed the beginning of it all.
I learned that all three major sports in the States started out as amateur sports.
There was strong resistance in all instances of a professional league.
Baseball was pretty much sandslot.
Basketball was played at the Y and in the army and at pickup games.
Only football gained popularity early at colleges.
Early attendances at times were not based on entertainment, but rather support from family members and friends, pride of the school, the need for social gathering (people enjoying being together and not necessarily get entertained by the games. Many don't even know the rules).
In the sandslot, there was no spectator, maybe your childhood girl friend... and she was playing.
I know when I was playing basketball pickup games at some of the neighborhood courts; there was no spectator.
Most of the time, at intramural games in high school and college, there was no spectator either.
So you see, these sports were not invented to be entertainment venues for the general folks.
They were intended to get the general folks to participate in the sports.
Then there would be no entertainers and no need for an audience.