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The Texans have played half their games, and I think I can say with some degree of confidence that the fans are disappointed with their showing. Instead of picking in the late 20's, I think the Texans will end up picking around 15/16.


Round 1: Purdue DE Ryan Kerrigan, 6’4” 263 lbs
“Superman”, as he is known to his teammates, is everything you want in a player- Strong, quick, and hardworking. He is about as bust proof a player as any in any draft, something which is important when taking my next pick into consideration. Kerrigan is an excellent run stopper, in addition to always being in the QB’s face. He will bring a consistency that the Texans’ D sorely lacks.

Round 2: North Carolina DT Marvin Austin, 6’3” 310 lbs
Austin is, in my opinion, the most physically gifted DT in the draft. Easily. However, he has the “Mario Williams syndrome”, in which he does not seem to give a **** on the field. Austin was suspended this season for meeting with an agent (and accepting benefits, which is why he has fallen off the radar. So, with these negatives (inconsistent, lazy, etc), why am I taking him here? Because if he puts it together, he will have an impact similar to Suh. No joke, he is that physically gifted. At 310 pounds, he will run a 4.8, and probably rep 35 times or so on the bench. He sheds blocks incredibly well (when playing), and has an unbelievable first step. I am hoping that not playing football for a year, and falling to the second round will get him straight.

Round 3: Virginia Tech CB Rashad Carmichael, 5’10”182 lbs
The Texans’ D needs secondary help in a bad way. Carmichael could be this help. He is a ballhawk with 10 career picks (all in the last 2 years), and incredibly athletic. He could contribute right away.

Round 4: Oregon ILB Casey Matthews, 6’1”238 lbs
Like some of my mock drafting companions, I also want the next edition of the Matthews family. Right now, this is pretty high for him, but I see him taking a rise similar to his brother. Matthews has the same “never say never” attitude, and very similar physical skills. By the time the draft rolls around, this may seem low for him.

Round 5: Lehigh OG Will Rackley, 6’4” 305 lbs
Rackley is a small school OT that will shift to OG in the pros. My favorite thing about him is his attitude; he is one nasty SOB down in the trenches. He has solid athleticism to go along with the attitude, which makes him a good pick here in round 5.

Round 6: OSU OLB Brian Rolle, 5’10” 220 lbs
Rolle is a perfect WLB. Great in coverage, athletic and intelligent, Rolle will provide a definite boost on passing downs. He will be, however, a liability against the run until he can put on some more weight and strength.

Round 7: Wyoming SS Chris Prosinski, 6’1” 210 lbs
One of my favorite “effort” type players in the draft. Prosinski plays FS for the Cowboys, but will be a SS safety for the Texans. He is a tackling machine, making 140 tackles last year, and has 92 thus far this season. He is a great form tackler, which makes him a good player to have as a backup and on special teams. He also knows how to make plays on the ball, with 5 career INTs.


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rmartin65 said:
The Texans have played half their games, and I think I can say with some degree of confidence that the fans are disappointed with their showing. Instead of picking in the late 20's, I think the Texans will end up picking around 15/16.


Round 1: Purdue DE Ryan Kerrigan, 6’4” 263 lbs
“Superman”, as he is known to his teammates, is everything you want in a player- Strong, quick, and hardworking. He is about as bust proof a player as any in any draft, something which is important when taking my next pick into consideration. Kerrigan is an excellent run stopper, in addition to always being in the QB’s face. He will bring a consistency that the Texans’ D sorely lacks.

Round 2: North Carolina DT Marvin Austin, 6’3” 310 lbs
Austin is, in my opinion, the most physically gifted DT in the draft. Easily. However, he has the “Mario Williams syndrome”, in which he does not seem to give a **** on the field. Austin was suspended this season for meeting with an agent (and accepting benefits, which is why he has fallen off the radar. So, with these negatives (inconsistent, lazy, etc), why am I taking him here? Because if he puts it together, he will have an impact similar to Suh. No joke, he is that physically gifted. At 310 pounds, he will run a 4.8, and probably rep 35 times or so on the bench. He sheds blocks incredibly well (when playing), and has an unbelievable first step. I am hoping that not playing football for a year, and falling to the second round will get him straight.

Round 3: Virginia Tech CB Rashad Carmichael, 5’10”182 lbs
The Texans’ D needs secondary help in a bad way. Carmichael could be this help. He is a ballhawk with 10 career picks (all in the last 2 years), and incredibly athletic. He could contribute right away.

Round 4: Oregon ILB Casey Matthews, 6’1”238 lbs
Like some of my mock drafting companions, I also want the next edition of the Matthews family. Right now, this is pretty high for him, but I see him taking a rise similar to his brother. Matthews has the same “never say never” attitude, and very similar physical skills. By the time the draft rolls around, this may seem low for him.

Round 5: Lehigh OG Will Rackley, 6’4” 305 lbs
Rackley is a small school OT that will shift to OG in the pros. My favorite thing about him is his attitude; he is one nasty SOB down in the trenches. He has solid athleticism to go along with the attitude, which makes him a good pick here in round 5.

Round 6: OSU OLB Brian Rolle, 5’10” 220 lbs
Rolle is a perfect WLB. Great in coverage, athletic and intelligent, Rolle will provide a definite boost on passing downs. He will be, however, a liability against the run until he can put on some more weight and strength.

Round 7: Wyoming SS Chris Prosinski, 6’1” 210 lbs
One of my favorite “effort” type players in the draft. Prosinski plays FS for the Cowboys, but will be a SS safety for the Texans. He is a tackling machine, making 140 tackles last year, and has 92 thus far this season. He is a great form tackler, which makes him a good player to have as a backup and on special teams. He also knows how to make plays on the ball, with 5 career INTs.


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Great Mock

The only things I would change would be

Rd3 Barron FS Ala over Carmicheal although I liike Carmicheal alot.

Rd 6 Niles Paul KR/PR Neb over Rolle. Paul could have a more immediate impact at a position of need. IMHO
 
Section516 said:
No safeties? :pissed: I want safeties! Wish we had 12 picks in the first 3 like the pats :smiliepalm:
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Trust me, I really wanted to grab a FS. But there was none that I liked worthy of a draft slot. I strongly considered FS Brian Lainhart in the 6th, but decided that Rolle would be a better pick.

Also, Prosinski in the 7th is a SS/FS tweener. I have him penciled in as a backup SS, 3rd string/emergency FS, and special teams guy.
 
steelbtexan said:
Great Mock

The only things I would change would be

Rd3 Barron FS Ala over Carmicheal although I liike Carmicheal alot.

Rd 6 Niles Paul KR/PR Neb over Rolle. Paul could have a more immediate impact at a position of need. IMHO
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I like both of those players quite a bit. However, I have both of them ranked higher. Barron could go in the late first in my opinion, and Paul is a 5th rounder.

Paul was actually my pick for the 5th round for a while, but I felt that the need for OL depth superseded the need for WR depth. Still, would not complain in the slightest if Paul was the pick in either the 5th or the 6th.
 
rmartin65 said:
I like both of those players quite a bit. However, I have both of them ranked higher. Barron could go in the late first in my opinion, and Paul is a 5th rounder.

Paul was actually my pick for the 5th round for a while, but I felt that the need for OL depth superseded the need for WR depth. Still, would not complain in the slightest if Paul was the pick in either the 5th or the 6th.
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I dont know if Barron is a 1st rder. But I could definitely see him going in the 2nd. He would be worth trading up for. Barron would be the best S in Texans history. IMHO

Agreed on Paul, To be honest I've watched Rolle against Miami and Wisconsin and didn't really develop an opinion of him. I'm sure you have followed him much more closely than I have.

With that said your mock last year was better than Smithiaks draft and I feel quite certian your final mock this yr will be better than Smithiaks draft.
 
rmartin65 said:
The Texans have played half their games, and I think I can say with some degree of confidence that the fans are disappointed with their showing. Instead of picking in the late 20's, I think the Texans will end up picking around 15/16.


Round 1: Purdue DE Ryan Kerrigan, 6’4” 263 lbs
“Superman”, as he is known to his teammates, is everything you want in a player- Strong, quick, and hardworking. He is about as bust proof a player as any in any draft, something which is important when taking my next pick into consideration. Kerrigan is an excellent run stopper, in addition to always being in the QB’s face. He will bring a consistency that the Texans’ D sorely lacks.

Round 2: North Carolina DT Marvin Austin, 6’3” 310 lbs
Austin is, in my opinion, the most physically gifted DT in the draft. Easily. However, he has the “Mario Williams syndrome”, in which he does not seem to give a **** on the field. Austin was suspended this season for meeting with an agent (and accepting benefits, which is why he has fallen off the radar. So, with these negatives (inconsistent, lazy, etc), why am I taking him here? Because if he puts it together, he will have an impact similar to Suh. No joke, he is that physically gifted. At 310 pounds, he will run a 4.8, and probably rep 35 times or so on the bench. He sheds blocks incredibly well (when playing), and has an unbelievable first step. I am hoping that not playing football for a year, and falling to the second round will get him straight.

Round 3: Virginia Tech CB Rashad Carmichael, 5’10”182 lbs
The Texans’ D needs secondary help in a bad way. Carmichael could be this help. He is a ballhawk with 10 career picks (all in the last 2 years), and incredibly athletic. He could contribute right away.

Round 4: Oregon ILB Casey Matthews, 6’1”238 lbs
Like some of my mock drafting companions, I also want the next edition of the Matthews family. Right now, this is pretty high for him, but I see him taking a rise similar to his brother. Matthews has the same “never say never” attitude, and very similar physical skills. By the time the draft rolls around, this may seem low for him.

Round 5: Lehigh OG Will Rackley, 6’4” 305 lbs
Rackley is a small school OT that will shift to OG in the pros. My favorite thing about him is his attitude; he is one nasty SOB down in the trenches. He has solid athleticism to go along with the attitude, which makes him a good pick here in round 5.

Round 6: OSU OLB Brian Rolle, 5’10” 220 lbs
Rolle is a perfect WLB. Great in coverage, athletic and intelligent, Rolle will provide a definite boost on passing downs. He will be, however, a liability against the run until he can put on some more weight and strength.

Round 7: Wyoming SS Chris Prosinski, 6’1” 210 lbs
One of my favorite “effort” type players in the draft. Prosinski plays FS for the Cowboys, but will be a SS safety for the Texans. He is a tackling machine, making 140 tackles last year, and has 92 thus far this season. He is a great form tackler, which makes him a good player to have as a backup and on special teams. He also knows how to make plays on the ball, with 5 career INTs.


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First, I'll say I could definitley live with your guys. My comments:
1. Kerrigan is very good but if Barwin returns healthy I do not make this pick. Yes, K projects to a better player but I don't want to duplicate with all the holes we seem to have.
2. Austin is an intriguing selection, I just do not have the same vibes you do he will step up in NFL next season. More of a boom or bust guy and if Nevis is there in 2nd, why take the risk? Gutsy call on your part.
3. I also really like but does have a history of losing focus. For me another risky pick that might work out very well.
4. Very good pick as we have discussed.
5. Have not followed him but we could use that type. Is he another Studdard?
6. No comment
7. My guy.

Over all good job if things break just right. More of attitude adjustments needed than skills.
 
I really do not like the Marvin Austin selection as a second rounder. To me, he has all the ability in the word and little to no heart. I am not even sure this kid likes football at all. You said he was akin to Mario Williams, but I think he is closer to another former Texan: Frank Okam.

Like Austin, Okam was blessed with great athletic ability, but very little heart. He did not seem interested in football at all. He developed a reputation for being lazy on the field as well. I see Austin as a newer version of Okam. While their circumstances are different, I think Austin is looking for a pay day and does not LOVE football I want an early round pick to be. As you said, Austin is boom or bust, and I prefer to take boom/bust players in the later rounds. The first few rounds should be saved for players who LOVE the game and will give their absolute all.

So, I would consider taking Austin in the fifth, not in the second.
 
badboy said:
First, I'll say I could definitley live with your guys. My comments:
1. Kerrigan is very good but if Barwin returns healthy I do not make this pick. Yes, K projects to a better player but I don't want to duplicate with all the holes we seem to have.
2. Austin is an intriguing selection, I just do not have the same vibes you do he will step up in NFL next season. More of a boom or bust guy and if Nevis is there in 2nd, why take the risk? Gutsy call on your part.
3. I also really like but does have a history of losing focus. For me another risky pick that might work out very well.
4. Very good pick as we have discussed.
5. Have not followed him but we could use that type. Is he another Studdard?
6. No comment
7. My guy.

Over all good job if things break just right. More of attitude adjustments needed than skills.
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As always, badboy, very fair comments. Allow me to explain my rationale further.

1) I think you have the wrong idea about Kerrigan. While Barwin is more of a pass rush threat that is a bit weak against the run, Kerrigan is much more of your stereotypical DE. He anchors really well against the run, in addition to being a good pass-rusher. Having a DE corps of Williams, Smith, Kerrigan and Barwin is just plain nasty. Imagine a having Barwin and Kerrigan on the outside, with Williams and Smith sliding inside on passing downs. Freaky!

Also, this pick was almost Miami (FL) DE Allen Bailey. Kerrigan won out because I feel that he is a safer pick, important due to Marvin Austin's high bust potential.

2) Nevis has really shot up the charts eh? Still, I worry about him. The Texans already have the small, penetrating DTs, and they dont work. Its time to grab a bigger DT that has the same kind of penetrating ability.

3) Agreed, but I wanted to address the defensive backfield before it go too late. I wanted my pick to be able to make an immediate impact, and Carmichael can do that.

4) Cool

5) He has considerable more upside than Studdard. Studdard was limited athletically, while Rackley only falls this far due to his level of competition.

6) Rolle is, like I said, a perfect WLB/passing down LB.
 
awtysst said:
I really do not like the Marvin Austin selection as a second rounder. To me, he has all the ability in the word and little to no heart. I am not even sure this kid likes football at all. You said he was akin to Mario Williams, but I think he is closer to another former Texan: Frank Okam.

Like Austin, Okam was blessed with great athletic ability, but very little heart. He did not seem interested in football at all. He developed a reputation for being lazy on the field as well. I see Austin as a newer version of Okam. While their circumstances are different, I think Austin is looking for a pay day and does not LOVE football I want an early round pick to be. As you said, Austin is boom or bust, and I prefer to take boom/bust players in the later rounds. The first few rounds should be saved for players who LOVE the game and will give their absolute all.

So, I would consider taking Austin in the fifth, not in the second.
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I knew this pick would be the most contested.

First of all, thank you for your input. Now, on to my rebuttal:

Austin is far more talented than Okam was. Okam was a huge guy on the line, that had very little penetration ability. Austin can do it all. If he gets his head on straight, he could be similar (not as good, but just a notch below) Suh. He has that kind of ability.

I do understand your reservations though, and wont be at all surprised (or upset) if the Texans pass on him. I generally am like you, and prefer to take sure bets in the first couple rounds. I just think the Texans are at that point where something, anything needs to be done. Austin has enough upside that he is worth it to me.

All that said, the combine and allstar games (is he even eligible for one?) are huge for him. If Austin shows up out of shape, then there is no way in hell I would take him, not even in the 7th. He needs to be busting his ass to prove to the NFL that he loves football.
 
rmartin65 said:
The Texans have played half their games, and I think I can say with some degree of confidence that the fans are disappointed with their showing. Instead of picking in the late 20's, I think the Texans will end up picking around 15/16.


Round 1: Purdue DE Ryan Kerrigan, 6’4” 263 lbs
“Superman”, as he is known to his teammates, is everything you want in a player- Strong, quick, and hardworking. He is about as bust proof a player as any in any draft, something which is important when taking my next pick into consideration. Kerrigan is an excellent run stopper, in addition to always being in the QB’s face. He will bring a consistency that the Texans’ D sorely lacks.

Round 2: North Carolina DT Marvin Austin, 6’3” 310 lbs
Austin is, in my opinion, the most physically gifted DT in the draft. Easily. However, he has the “Mario Williams syndrome”, in which he does not seem to give a **** on the field. Austin was suspended this season for meeting with an agent (and accepting benefits, which is why he has fallen off the radar. So, with these negatives (inconsistent, lazy, etc), why am I taking him here? Because if he puts it together, he will have an impact similar to Suh. No joke, he is that physically gifted. At 310 pounds, he will run a 4.8, and probably rep 35 times or so on the bench. He sheds blocks incredibly well (when playing), and has an unbelievable first step. I am hoping that not playing football for a year, and falling to the second round will get him straight.

Round 3: Virginia Tech CB Rashad Carmichael, 5’10”182 lbs
The Texans’ D needs secondary help in a bad way. Carmichael could be this help. He is a ballhawk with 10 career picks (all in the last 2 years), and incredibly athletic. He could contribute right away.

Round 4: Oregon ILB Casey Matthews, 6’1”238 lbs
Like some of my mock drafting companions, I also want the next edition of the Matthews family. Right now, this is pretty high for him, but I see him taking a rise similar to his brother. Matthews has the same “never say never” attitude, and very similar physical skills. By the time the draft rolls around, this may seem low for him.

Round 5: Lehigh OG Will Rackley, 6’4” 305 lbs
Rackley is a small school OT that will shift to OG in the pros. My favorite thing about him is his attitude; he is one nasty SOB down in the trenches. He has solid athleticism to go along with the attitude, which makes him a good pick here in round 5.

Round 6: OSU OLB Brian Rolle, 5’10” 220 lbs
Rolle is a perfect WLB. Great in coverage, athletic and intelligent, Rolle will provide a definite boost on passing downs. He will be, however, a liability against the run until he can put on some more weight and strength.

Round 7: Wyoming SS Chris Prosinski, 6’1” 210 lbs
One of my favorite “effort” type players in the draft. Prosinski plays FS for the Cowboys, but will be a SS safety for the Texans. He is a tackling machine, making 140 tackles last year, and has 92 thus far this season. He is a great form tackler, which makes him a good player to have as a backup and on special teams. He also knows how to make plays on the ball, with 5 career INTs.


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well you know I like it rmartin65 :)

love Kerrigan pick. he is a pure 4-3 DE with size to play hand down line of scrimmage, good pass rushing skill set, relentless, strong in run support as well which is obviously important to the Texans. has no weakness in his game on or off the field issues. solid mid-first rd selection.

Austin is gets easy first round grade if based on physical attributes alone, I'm not going to grind on anybody on this off field stuff, need to keep focused of players ability to impact next level so he could be a steal for Texans if still available. would grade him as late first/early 2nd despite issues, will be just too impressive @ combine for teams needing DT help to overlook.

like the name, Carmichael. physically speed wise is something nice to add, think he runs in the low 4.3's. like you said good ballhawk with insticnts really like going CB somewhere in the 2nd 3rd rd. window.

moved Casey Matthews up to the 4th huh? I think this is too high for him but sentimental pick following missing out on his brother Clay.

Will Rackley will probably go 4th. maybe flip these two picks?

Another big time NFL name, Rolle (Antrel). You it seems like years ago, but actually it was just this past camp Texans had a promising S/OLB prospect Darnell Bing. I just don't see a late rd. pick beating himself out next camp unless he can't rehab from his injury. maybe another DE prospect, seems like we can't find enough of those or under radar WR (Vincent Brown, San Diego St is interesting).

7th rd. SS Chris Prosinski. go ahead & just sign him up now.

good job as always :barman:
 
beerlover said:
well you know I like it rmartin65 :)

love Kerrigan pick. he is a pure 4-3 DE with size to play hand down line of scrimmage, good pass rushing skill set, relentless, strong in run support as well which is obviously important to the Texans. has no weakness in his game on or off the field issues. solid mid-first rd selection.

Austin is gets easy first round grade if based on physical attributes alone, I'm not going to grind on anybody on this off field stuff, need to keep focused of players ability to impact next level so he could be a steal for Texans if still available. would grade him as late first/early 2nd despite issues, will be just too impressive @ combine for teams needing DT help to overlook.

like the name, Carmichael. physically speed wise is something nice to add, think he runs in the low 4.3's. like you said good ballhawk with insticnts really like going CB somewhere in the 2nd 3rd rd. window.

moved Casey Matthews up to the 4th huh? I think this is too high for him but sentimental pick following missing out on his brother Clay.

Will Rackley will probably go 4th. maybe flip these two picks?

Another big time NFL name, Rolle (Antrel). You it seems like years ago, but actually it was just this past camp Texans had a promising S/OLB prospect Darnell Bing. I just don't see a late rd. pick beating himself out next camp unless he can't rehab from his injury. maybe another DE prospect, seems like we can't find enough of those or under radar WR (Vincent Brown, San Diego St is interesting).

7th rd. SS Chris Prosinski. go ahead & just sign him up now.

good job as always :barman:
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Thanks for the critique.

I could see switching the 4th and 5th rounders. I just chose Matthews in the 4th because I see him taking a rise due to his name (and ability), while Rackley may fall a little due to the competition.

Rolle was an interesting pick for me. I really wanted to address the pass coverage issue, but there were no safeties or corners there I thought would help. I turned to weakside backer, as Adibi has not panned out, and Diles is not having his best season. Bing is an interesting case, I had forgotten all about him. In my next mock, I will have to reconsider this.
 
rmartin65 said:
The Texans have played half their games, and I think I can say with some degree of confidence that the fans are disappointed with their showing. Instead of picking in the late 20's, I think the Texans will end up picking around 15/16.


Round 1: Purdue DE Ryan Kerrigan, 6’4” 263 lbs
“Superman”, as he is known to his teammates, is everything you want in a player- Strong, quick, and hardworking. He is about as bust proof a player as any in any draft, something which is important when taking my next pick into consideration. Kerrigan is an excellent run stopper, in addition to always being in the QB’s face. He will bring a consistency that the Texans’ D sorely lacks.

I dont really know much about this years draft class yet, so you will have to forgive my ignorance, and the same goes with Kerrigan, but I am not taking a DE with our first pick. I will be banking on Mario, Antonio and Barwin again.

Round 2: North Carolina DT Marvin Austin, 6’3” 310 lbs
Austin is, in my opinion, the most physically gifted DT in the draft. Easily. However, he has the “Mario Williams syndrome”, in which he does not seem to give a **** on the field. Austin was suspended this season for meeting with an agent (and accepting benefits, which is why he has fallen off the radar. So, with these negatives (inconsistent, lazy, etc), why am I taking him here? Because if he puts it together, he will have an impact similar to Suh. No joke, he is that physically gifted. At 310 pounds, he will run a 4.8, and probably rep 35 times or so on the bench. He sheds blocks incredibly well (when playing), and has an unbelievable first step. I am hoping that not playing football for a year, and falling to the second round will get him straight.

If Marvin is available here I would take him too. I am not worried about a player getting these types of NCAA violations.

Round 3: Virginia Tech CB Rashad Carmichael, 5’10”182 lbs
The Texans’ D needs secondary help in a bad way. Carmichael could be this help. He is a ballhawk with 10 career picks (all in the last 2 years), and incredibly athletic. He could contribute right away.

A corner in round 3 or 4 sounds great! Sign me up!

Round 4: Oregon ILB Casey Matthews, 6’1”238 lbs
Like some of my mock drafting companions, I also want the next edition of the Matthews family. Right now, this is pretty high for him, but I see him taking a rise similar to his brother. Matthews has the same “never say never” attitude, and very similar physical skills. By the time the draft rolls around, this may seem low for him.

Obviously he would need to bulk up to play ILB. But a year or 2 behind DeMeco would do the trick.

Round 5: Lehigh OG Will Rackley, 6’4” 305 lbs
Rackley is a small school OT that will shift to OG in the pros. My favorite thing about him is his attitude; he is one nasty SOB down in the trenches. He has solid athleticism to go along with the attitude, which makes him a good pick here in round 5.

Probably could use a higher pick on some O line support. But some is better than none.

Round 6: OSU OLB Brian Rolle, 5’10” 220 lbs
Rolle is a perfect WLB. Great in coverage, athletic and intelligent, Rolle will provide a definite boost on passing downs. He will be, however, a liability against the run until he can put on some more weight and strength.


Round 7: Wyoming SS Chris Prosinski, 6’1” 210 lbs
One of my favorite “effort” type players in the draft. Prosinski plays FS for the Cowboys, but will be a SS safety for the Texans. He is a tackling machine, making 140 tackles last year, and has 92 thus far this season. He is a great form tackler, which makes him a good player to have as a backup and on special teams. He also knows how to make plays on the ball, with 5 career INTs.


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Good mock. I like reading these early draft reports. My only opinion is that we could use a top flight safety in round 1 or 2, I like the DT pick, and maybe upgrade the o line pick a round or 2. Bravo.
 
rmartin65 said:
As always, badboy, very fair comments. Allow me to explain my rationale further.

1) I think you have the wrong idea about Kerrigan. While Barwin is more of a pass rush threat that is a bit weak against the run, Kerrigan is much more of your stereotypical DE. He anchors really well against the run, in addition to being a good pass-rusher. Having a DE corps of Williams, Smith, Kerrigan and Barwin is just plain nasty. Imagine a having Barwin and Kerrigan on the outside, with Williams and Smith sliding inside on passing downs. Freaky!

Also, this pick was almost Miami (FL) DE Allen Bailey. Kerrigan won out because I feel that he is a safer pick, important due to Marvin Austin's high bust potential.

2) Nevis has really shot up the charts eh? Still, I worry about him. The Texans already have the small, penetrating DTs, and they dont work. Its time to grab a bigger DT that has the same kind of penetrating ability.

3) Agreed, but I wanted to address the defensive backfield before it go too late. I wanted my pick to be able to make an immediate impact, and Carmichael can do that.

4) Cool

5) He has considerable more upside than Studdard. Studdard was limited athletically, while Rackley only falls this far due to his level of competition.

6) Rolle is, like I said, a perfect WLB/passing down LB.
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65 it is hard for me to picture a DE anchoring against the run on a consistent basis. He will be giving up 35 to 50 lbs usually. Oddly, you comment that Nevis does not meet your idea of a bigger DT yet you want to have a line with Mario, Kerrigan, Baldwin and Smith? I thought Drake Nevis was having a good year until I watched Nick Fairley. Listening to 1560 last evening they were talking about a list of four best DTs and Nevis was on it. Comment was does he excell due to being on a good defensive team? Question for you is Kerrigan that much better than Winterswyck a much later pick?

As always, I enjoy the discussion.
 
I certainly applaud your continued efforts and knowledge base, but I do not understand the need to do a mock for the Texans if it does not address two glaring needs - WR and QB - IMO. And by QB, I mean our #2.

Annually I would include FS, but I don't think this organization thinks FS is a need, let alone an actual position.
 
badboy said:
65 it is hard for me to picture a DE anchoring against the run on a consistent basis. He will be giving up 35 to 50 lbs usually. Oddly, you comment that Nevis does not meet your idea of a bigger DT yet you want to have a line with Mario, Kerrigan, Baldwin and Smith? I thought Drake Nevis was having a good year until I watched Nick Fairley. Listening to 1560 last evening they were talking about a list of four best DTs and Nevis was on it. Comment was does he excell due to being on a good defensive team? Question for you is Kerrigan that much better than Winterswyck a much later pick?

As always, I enjoy the discussion.
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He holds his ground as well as you could expect from a 4-3 DE. I dont see him getting blown off the line, and I see no reason why that should change in the pros.

The line-up I suggested was for passing situations, kind of like what the Giants do occasionally.

To answer your question, I think a line with Kerrigan and Austin would be significantly better than a line consisting of Nevis and Winterswyck, although, I admit I have not seen much of Winterswyck. I hope to be able to focus on the Boise State D during their bowl game.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I certainly applaud your continued efforts and knowledge base, but I do not understand the need to do a mock for the Texans if it does not address two glaring needs - WR and QB - IMO. And by QB, I mean our #2.

Annually I would include FS, but I don't think this organization thinks FS is a need, let alone an actual position.
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Thanks for the compliment, and rest assured that this is far from a finished product. I too hoped to find a spot for a backup QB, but none really draw my interest at certain points. Enderle out of Idaho is certainly on my radar, as is Chappell from Indiana, and Stanzi from Iowa. A surprise pick could even be Locker in the first, as I have mentioned to beerlover and badboy.

Same with FS. It was really hard not grabbing one, but I could not find any playmakers to fit into a draft slot. This years crop of free safeties is pretty slim, the Texans screwed up by not grabbing one this past April.

As it pertains to WR, I got nothing. I think that unless a top talent falls to us, we should go with what we got. AJ should be healthy next year, which can only help the rest of the group. Dickerson should be better after being in the system for a year, hopefully he can step up.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I loved the Dickerson pick, but he is not getting the reps. An injured AJ, a lost KW, a tease in JJ and a small DA does not bode well for the position.
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Yeah, I hear that. But that is this year, which we can do nothing about. AJ should be healthy next year, which should help KW a lot. Jacoby is looking like a lost cause, I admit that, and DA should not be looked at as more than a 5th receiver. In fact, I would not be surprised to see him gone when his contract runs out.

Still, I am not opposed to grabbing a receiver if the right one falls.
 
Dickerson was a beast during pre-season, understudy prot'ege of Andre Johnson & dude can't see the field. disconserting to me, not on Dorin as much as coaching staff unwilling to assume risking his development or lofty team expectations, yeah right :headhurts:

when it comes to adding another WR, I hope they target a player like I already mentioned, Vincent Brown, San Diego St. 6-0 195 who can seperate underneath & be our new "possession" WR replacing both Anderson & Jacoby. If they want to upgrade need & get a true #2 option then probably 3rd rd. they could get Bose State WR Austin Pettis, 6-3 205. both would be viable options to improve receiving corps.
 
Austin is being projected into the 2nd round now?

If he is there, I'd easily take him. Position of need and the dude is a physical freak at the position. I don't see him as a guy not giving a damn on the field though...But even if that is the case, I think he is much more active than Mario...He is a big, quick and nimble guy...Would love that pick in that round...Heck, I'd take him in the first...

I like all the other picks, but I would love for us to take Ricky Stanzi somewhere in the mid to late rounds...depending on where he is graded...

I think he could be a good back-up or future starter with the right seasoning....
 
Rey said:
Austin is being projected into the 2nd round now?

If he is there, I'd easily take him. Position of need and the dude is a physical freak at the position. I don't see him as a guy not giving a damn on the field though...But even if that is the case, I think he is much more active than Mario...He is a big, quick and nimble guy...Would love that pick in that round...Heck, I'd take him in the first...

I like all the other picks, but I would love for us to take Ricky Stanzi somewhere in the mid to late rounds...depending on where he is graded...

I think he could be a good back-up or future starter with the right seasoning....
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What is your evaluation Of Stanzi versus Nathan Enderle and what rounds do you see for each?
 
badboy said:
What is your evaluation Of Stanzi versus Nathan Enderle and what rounds do you see for each?
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Honestly, I think I'd like Enderle more, but I see him going earlier than Stanzi.

I honestly think that after the season and the combine stuff he could possibly be a first or second round pick.

I love his game...He reminds me of a bigger Chase Daniels...I love how he throws balls and gives his receivers a chance to make plays on them...I also love his placement...

I think Stanzi could possibly move up a bit as well, but I don't see him going earlier than the third round....I think it's possible he could be there in the fourth or fifth though...just depends on how things shake out...

I'm not a big draft guru like some of you guys, but I do like to evaluate players...Not sure about my round placement though...just how I see it...
 
Rey said:
Austin is being projected into the 2nd round now?

If he is there, I'd easily take him. Position of need and the dude is a physical freak at the position. I don't see him as a guy not giving a damn on the field though...But even if that is the case, I think he is much more active than Mario...He is a big, quick and nimble guy...Would love that pick in that round...Heck, I'd take him in the first...

I like all the other picks, but I would love for us to take Ricky Stanzi somewhere in the mid to late rounds...depending on where he is graded...

I think he could be a good back-up or future starter with the right seasoning....
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Depends who you talk to. In my opinion, he is not worth the risk in the 1st round. He is only even worth a look in the 2nd because the Texans need D help so much.
 
DT's are the most difficult positions to project. This is also a position with some novalty to Texans (lack any history of impact players) they may be more willing now to circumvent pratical ethics & procdure to aquire a physical specimen inside the tackle box. To me at least he passes the eye test but like Haynsworth could be wildly inconsistant. I guess it will all depend how he interviews & works out for teams in private meetings none of which we'll be allowed access to.
 
beerlover said:
DT's are the most difficult positions to project. This is also a position with some novalty to Texans (lack any history of impact players) they may be more willing now to circumvent pratical ethics & procdure to aquire a physical specimen inside the tackle box. To me at least he passes the eye test but like Haynsworth could be wildly inconsistant. I guess it will all depend how he interviews & works out for teams in private meetings none of which we'll be allowed access to.
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I think Hainesworth is a good comparison.
 
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