FIRE BILL O'BRIEN NOW!!!

[banned1976]

I don’t even have to look at the members name to know who made the comments in this thread.

I’ve changed my position on O’Brien once. And it had nothing to do with his attitude and in all honesty I still like O’Brien the man, what I know of him.

I may jump back on the O’Brien (the HC) bandwagon, but it will take a lot. So far, I see a little better from the play calling, but will it last? If this new offensive philosophy of O’Brien’s hits a speed bump, I fear he’ll resort back to his old ways.

If they beat up on a depleted team in a wildcard game, that’s not good enough for me. They need to prove they belong in the postseason, O’Brien needs to prove he belongs.

Lastly, these lapses in discipline need to be coached out of the team. No more not reporting as eligible, or a punter dancing around in the back of the end zone. It’s situational football that should have been ironed out during practices.

 

[steelbtexan]

I don’t even have to look at the members name to know who made the comments in this thread.

I’ve changed my position on O’Brien once. And it had nothing to do with his attitude and in all honesty I still like O’Brien the man, what I know of him.

I may jump back on the O’Brien (the HC) bandwagon, but it will take a lot. So far, I see a little better from the play calling, but will it last? If this new offensive philosophy of O’Brien’s hits a speed bump, I fear he’ll resort back to his old ways.

If they beat up on a depleted team in a wildcard game, that’s not good enough for me. They need to prove they belong in the postseason, O’Brien needs to prove he belongs.

Lastly, these lapses in discipline need to be coached out of the team. No more not reporting as eligible, or a punter dancing around in the back of the end zone. It’s situational football that should have been ironed out during practices.

Fair post and I totally agree.

 

[TheMatrix31]

6 years in and people are still trying to convince themselves.

6. YEARS.

 

[steelbtexan]

6 years in and people are still trying to convince themselves.

6. YEARS.

2 yrs minus RS and look at the progress of the depth on the roster.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

The challenge process is not as cut and dry as fans believe. It needs to be noted that every team has a coach in the booth that speccifically assists the HC on the field in determining challenge situations. The HC many times does not have a clear view from the sideline field level of the play in question and relies heavily on his booth coach for his final decision to throw or not to throw the red flag. He will also sometimes look to the first-hand input of the player(s) involved in the play for his decision.

 

[steelbtexan]

The challenge process is not as cut and dry as fans believe. It needs to be noted that every team has a coach in the booth that speccifically assists the HC on the field in determining challenge situations. The HC many times does not have a clear view from the sideline field level of the play in question and relies heavily on his booth coach for his final decision to throw or not to throw the red flag. He will also sometimes look to the first-hand input of the player(s) involved in the play for his decision.

Who is the Texans guy in the booth?

 

[Uncle Rico]

Lets forget about the piss poor offensive rankings. Lets forget about the horrific game management mistakes. Lets ignore the worst challenge usage in the league. This is what Im looking at moving forward.

.250 Playoff win % (1-3) 12.5 ppg

If he cant get better results in the postseason then you are just wasting time.

 

[steelbtexan]

Lets forget about the piss poor offensive rankings. Lets forget about the horrific game management mistakes. Lets ignore the worst challenge usage in the league. This is what Im looking at moving forward.

.250 Playoff win % (1-3) 12.5 ppg

If he cant get better results in the postseason then you are just wasting time.

CnD provided you info that says this post is false. They aren't the worst in the NFL. Do they need to improve, yes. You are nothing more than a Watson only fan. I mean you didn't even like the trade that protected him.

I do agree with your last sentence. If they don't do well, the blame should be shared between BOB/Jesusincleats. But I'm sure we won't be seeing that post from you.

 

[mws]

Name at least 1 HC in the league besides O'Brian that has lost 2 timeouts on 1 challenge.

 

[steelbtexan]

Name at least 1 HC in the league besides O'Brian that has lost 2 timeouts on 1 challenge.

Your point is?

I guess that Ivy League education doesn't mean what it used too and to think these are the people who've been the POTUS for the last 30 yrs, until Trump.

 

[Corrosion]

2 yrs minus RS and look at the progress of the depth on the roster.

I'm gonna say this again - The overall roster was better the day OB took over than it is today.

The main difference is that we have a useful QB today …. instead of a Hoyerable or FitzTragic.

 

[steelbtexan]

I'm gonna say this again - The overall roster was better the day OB took over than it is today.

The main difference is that we have a useful QB today …. instead of a Hoyerable or FitzTragic.

Agree to disagree. Minds will not be changed though.

They were an aging team without a QB.

 

[76Texan]

Agreed,

Just k know last year's team for finished where their talent level took them. This yrs team is much more talented, but they aren't ready for a spot in the SB.

That, despite having used up future resources.

BTW, where do you think the Texans would be over the years with Bob if the Tacks and the Meows had hit on their QB and Luck didn't get injured/retired?

 

[76Texan]

Agree to disagree. Minds will not be changed though.

They were an aging team without a QB.

The Texans were "older" than just 9 teams in 2014.
That was not an aging roster.

Snap-Weighted Age: 2014 NFL Rosters

For the first time in seven years, the Steelers weren't the oldest defense. We look at how another AFC powerhouse aged, plus the cap hell of the Saints. Also: is age just a number in the NFL?

www.footballoutsiders.com

 

[steelbtexan]

The Texans were "older" than just 9 teams in 2014.
That was not an aging roster.

Snap-Weighted Age: 2014 NFL Rosters

For the first time in seven years, the Steelers weren't the oldest defense. We look at how another AFC powerhouse aged, plus the cap hell of the Saints. Also: is age just a number in the NFL?

www.footballoutsiders.com

AJ was on his last legs/AF was injury prone/Myers played 1 more season/W.Smith 2.

So you can use a bunch of UDFA's that only made the roster because of poor drafting and prove your point but you aren't taking things into proper context.

 

[steelbtexan]

That, despite having used up future resources.

BTW, where do you think the Texans would be over the years with Bob if the Tacks and the Meows had hit on their QB and Luck didn't get injured/retired?

Future resources if you mean having all of your draft picks minus your 1st this yr and having a a 2018 draft so you can build a potentially great young OL to protect Watson then count me as happy.

They would've been fine even if Luck hadn't retired. Brissett has actually played very well this yr. (Top 15 IMHO)

 

[76Texan]

AJ was on his last legs/AF was injury prone/Myers played 1 more season/W.Smith 2.

So you can use a bunch of UDFA's that only made the roster because of poor drafting and prove your point but you aren't taking things into proper context.

Look at the roster Kubiak inherited as compared to the one that OB got.
Big difference.
A J was young in 2006; Hopkins was young in 2014.
Wouldn't you take AJ in 2013 over Moulds in 2006?
Look at the Oline. Now, that's old.
And who did the Texans have at RB in 2006?
BTW, Arian Foster was an UDFA that Kubiak helped turned into a starter.
O'Brien can go out and find his own guy.

 

[76Texan]

Future resources if you mean having all of your draft picks minus your 1st this yr and having a a 2018 draft so you can build a potentially great young OL to protect Watson then count me as happy.

Well, look at the picks the Colts will have next year.

And by your own account, the Texans aren"t real contenders this year.
What's there to be happy about?

 

[steelbtexan]

Well, look at the picks the Colts will have next year.

And by your own account, the Texans aren"t real contenders this year.
What's there to be happy about?

Well, look at the picks the Colts will have next year.

And by your own account, the Texans aren"t real contenders this year.
What's there to be happy about?

Colts have to hit on their picks. They hit 2 yrs ago and didn't last yr.

Picks are good to have but did you know only about 50% of 1st rders hit?

They have an exciting QB, a young OL good skill position guys. There defense has a good DL, the LB's are more than solid and I like how they rebuilt their secondary in season. If they re-sign Roby the CB's should be solid next yr. You dont like the Reid/Gipson S combo? BOB/Watson just have to grow together and the Texans will be fine. They have their full compliment of draft picks if you take into acct the comp pick they're going to get, maybe even getting an extra comp 3rd.

I cant believe not having a 1st rd pick makes you think there's no hope. Why dont you have hope? Is this just your admitted dislike of all things BOB that's bringing you down? Or does your love of all things Kubiak have you feeling this way.