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Fiesta Bowl - UT v. OSU
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Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
While I will never be confused as a 'sip fan and as much as I hate the Little 11, I hate Oklahoma more. With that said, I hope the Horns hang 50+ on OSU.
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
I absolutely agree we don't "deserve" to be there.
However, BCS picks 1 v. 2. After that, BCS is irrelevant (unless you're ND), and the bowls start doing screwy stuff ($$$$$$$).
Until we have my 8 team playoff, I'll take the gift of playing UT
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
Beanie is healthy and Pryor is matured. Defense has improved some, D Line still sucks, causing our secondary to have issues.
Also, we kick a** in non-national title BCS games!
Also, we kick a** in non-national title BCS games!
bah007
Hall of Fame
As we get closer to the game my take will become more in-depth, but for right now:
I think Texas wins handily against Ohio St for a few reasons.
I expect Texas to come out trying to prove why their fans are "whining" about getting left out. I already hear "fans" saying that we should run up the score on OSU. I disagree. Mack never rubs it in and that is one of the reasons we are where we are. A lot of people respect that. I couldn't care less about "style points" when all it does is lead to poor sportsmanship.
Pryor is a good player. But he will be like the sixth or seventh best QB Texas has faced this year, and not even the best freshman (Robert Griffin).
OSU will get their yards running the ball. I have no doubt of that. But as the Texas defense does to everybody, we will force them to be one-dimensional. If Pryor tries to pass, he will get hammered. Unless a Big XII crew is officiating, Orakpo and Kindle will combine for at least three sacks.
OSU's defense is a tougher match-up I think. They will have to blitz us to get pressure, but they have a secondary that isn't bothered by getting left on an island. I expect we will have serious trouble establishing any type of running game other than McCoy on draws and scrambles. Expect Cosby and Shipley to each have about 10 catches on quick slants, screens, and hitches.
I think it will be a great first half, with Texas pulling away in the second half. The only game that will rival this one in intensity is the OU/UF game.
I think Texas wins handily against Ohio St for a few reasons.
I expect Texas to come out trying to prove why their fans are "whining" about getting left out. I already hear "fans" saying that we should run up the score on OSU. I disagree. Mack never rubs it in and that is one of the reasons we are where we are. A lot of people respect that. I couldn't care less about "style points" when all it does is lead to poor sportsmanship.
Pryor is a good player. But he will be like the sixth or seventh best QB Texas has faced this year, and not even the best freshman (Robert Griffin).
OSU will get their yards running the ball. I have no doubt of that. But as the Texas defense does to everybody, we will force them to be one-dimensional. If Pryor tries to pass, he will get hammered. Unless a Big XII crew is officiating, Orakpo and Kindle will combine for at least three sacks.
OSU's defense is a tougher match-up I think. They will have to blitz us to get pressure, but they have a secondary that isn't bothered by getting left on an island. I expect we will have serious trouble establishing any type of running game other than McCoy on draws and scrambles. Expect Cosby and Shipley to each have about 10 catches on quick slants, screens, and hitches.
I think it will be a great first half, with Texas pulling away in the second half. The only game that will rival this one in intensity is the OU/UF game.
jaayteetx
All Pro
Only two teams can go from one conference, so thats why Tech ain't going. Ohio St, well, its all about $$$$.
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
Like I said, ALL the BCS rankings determine are #1 and #2. Period. It's lame. After that - #3 to about #12 don't matter, no it's if you won your conference and/or "at large" bids (i.e. $$$$$).
But, I will enjoy prospering from the suckitude of the system.
I will be rooting for the Utes against Alabama. Always have to cheer for the non-BCS teams.
What's a Ute?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1V-4boT_ts&feature=related
What's a Ute?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1V-4boT_ts&feature=related
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
I always have to cheer for the non-SEC and non-USC teams
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
I always have to cheer for the non-SEC and non-USC teams
Exactly.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
I didn't think UT was eligible for a bowl this year. And with Phillip Fulmer stepping down, who would coach them??
bah007
Hall of Fame
I didn't think UT was eligible for a bowl this year. And with Phillip Fulmer stepping down, who would coach them??
You're thinking of TU, Tennessee....
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
smiley with that post.
TD
Super Bowl Mascot
I was just looking at some of the coach's votes. Pure lunacy.
Coaches at Baylor, Michigan State, Texas Tech, have OU #1 and TX #5
The Rutgers Coach also has TX at # 5 and OU #2.
I guess we can quit saying that the regular season IS the playoffs. This is coaches cooking the books, plain and simple. This is the 2nd year in a row I feel $%^$ed by the system (Georgia)
I'm so fed up I wouldn't even watch the game if it were played right now.
Coaches at Baylor, Michigan State, Texas Tech, have OU #1 and TX #5
The Rutgers Coach also has TX at # 5 and OU #2.
I guess we can quit saying that the regular season IS the playoffs. This is coaches cooking the books, plain and simple. This is the 2nd year in a row I feel $%^$ed by the system (Georgia)
I'm so fed up I wouldn't even watch the game if it were played right now.
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
GA is the ONLY SEC team I like (I reserve the right to change that once I go to a game as an opposing fan). I like Richt and the program.
However, it was GA who vaulted Bama from like 13 to 1 when an they beat an overrated GA team (preseason polls are lunacy).
Back to the topic, Go Bucks!
TD
Super Bowl Mascot
Horse Crap. You flip the dates of the OU/TX game and the TT/TX game and Texas is ahead in the polls. Flip the OU/TX and OU/TT games and Texas Tech is ahead. That's just the sad reality of the system.
bah007
Hall of Fame
If the voters honestly believe that OU is better then they should rank them higher.
But ranking Texas #5? Justify that...
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
yes the system blows, too many inherent biases, but i can't get inside anyone's heads, so no clue why anyone would rank Texas #5, except for maybe the obvious, which is that they feel there are 4 teams who are better.
but overall, my feelings on the BCS are that if you're going to have the polling, then one regular season game shouldn't be a tiebreaker with a 3-way tie, but rather the season as a whole, and the voters aside, all the computers feel Oklahoma is the best team in the land. no biases there
but overall, my feelings on the BCS are that if you're going to have the polling, then one regular season game shouldn't be a tiebreaker with a 3-way tie, but rather the season as a whole, and the voters aside, all the computers feel Oklahoma is the best team in the land. no biases there
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
go buckeyes
beat texas!!!
beat texas!!!
bah007
Hall of Fame
Very unlikely if you consider that they beat the #1 team and have the same number of losses as them.
Agree that one game can't decide a three-way tie.
I believe that voters listed Texas that low because they were trying to cheat the system to make sure that Texas didn't make the title game. Instead of voting teams where they belong, they just wanted to make sure that Florida would make up the ground in the human polls that they couldn't in the computers.
And if you want to go by the computers...yes, OU is the undisputed #1. And Texas is #2, not Florida.
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
That's exactly why people said my Texas/Tech title game wouldn't happen, and why a Michigan/OSU rematch didn't happen 2 years ago.
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
no doubt, that's why the system is laughable
i only brought up OU being #1 in the computers because it's more than possible to think that OU is better than Texas, despite the head-to-head matchup
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
It's possible that Florida, OU, USC, and Alabama are all better than Texas
TD
Super Bowl Mascot
Yep....polls by people with a stake in the outcome are a farce. It's like giving a defendant a seat on the jury.
And because of that I'm OK with Oklahoma in the title game. And I'd rather see this game than a TX OU re-match even though that's what it should be.
I hate the system more than the result.
TD
Super Bowl Mascot
HAHAHAHA!!! Good one. Seriously though, what do you think is the reason?
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
certainly is.
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
OU is a lot better than they were when they lost to UT. If they played this weekend, I don't think it would be much of a game.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Texas is better too.
Just because OU is throwing up points doesn't mean they are unstoppable. They are giving up more than four TDs per game during their "amazing" streak.
bah007
Hall of Fame
It is certainly possible.
But you have to rank the teams on what they have shown, not on what you think they can show.
OU has the best resume over the entire course of the season. Texas has the next best.
I would say Florida has the third best, but because they won their conference and Texas did not, I have no problem with them being in the championship game.
Alabama did manage to lose only one game, but they played a pretty weak schedule and had serious trouble with a few bad teams.
USC may have a case, but their strength of schedule is low, even with the victory over Ohio St.
They may get a 60 spot dropped on them. UT is pissed at the diss, and OSU is so overrated its sickening. Boise and Utah would destroy them, but here we go again. 66-10 UT in a landslide embarassment
bah007
Hall of Fame
Don't get your hopes up.
I expect a UT win, but the OSU defense is not giving up 60+...
bah007
Hall of Fame
Yankee_In_TX
Dance Lindsay!
Over rated? When we lost to USC - our defense was learning how to play with 0 defensive ends (whereas we had Gholston opening up Lauranitus to make big plays); our coach rotated QB's per series (stupid) + one of them is a true freshman. Oh yeah, our Hesiman Hopeful was on the sideline.
Penn state was a piss poor coaching loss, but a close game.
In the mean time, our defense has learned how to play (despite constant zone schemes, which make me made). Beanie is back and healthy. Pryor has learned how to be an NCAA QB, and is making fewer and fewer bone headed mistakes. AND Tressel has started letting him air it out 4-6 times a game. LONG.
Other than saying "The Big Ten sucks" how can you argue OSU is not number 10?
And if instead of over rated, you mean don't deserve to be in the Fiesta Bowl, that's determined by a room full of schmoees looking at $$$. And we're definitely not over rated as to how much money we will bring them.
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
i think one could legitimately argue that there's a huge difference between the #3 team and the #10 team. but there aren't a lot of teams that "should" be #10 over Ohio State
Wolf
100% Texan
I think it is interesting how Leach put OU #1 (understandable that OU put a whipping on them) , but put TT at #2 and then put UT at #5.. I mean come on.. OU stomped TT (how does that give you a #2 ranking, in your mind coach?) .. UT lost to TT, can't deny that, but to put TT at #2 and drop UT to number 5? UT lost on the last play on a TD (probably would have been a field goal instead) and it wouldnt' have come to that with either a McCoy slide instead of going out of bounds on the last drive (kept the clock moving) and/or if Texas would have ran the playclock down further before that last play they scored..
I am not making excuses for UT.. I am just laughing at Leaches voting process on that.. of course wasn't he part of stoops coaching staff at one time or another?
as I take my tinfoil hat off... all I will say is what was done was done.. I just think it is funny
I am not making excuses for UT.. I am just laughing at Leaches voting process on that.. of course wasn't he part of stoops coaching staff at one time or another?
as I take my tinfoil hat off... all I will say is what was done was done.. I just think it is funny
bah007
Hall of Fame
Basically all the coaches vote that way.
Mack Brown voted Florida #1 and Texas #2 despite the fact that UF is the team that we were trying to keep from jumping us. I guess that just makes Mack a bigger sissy than before though, right kastofsna?...
Blake
MMQB
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
Wanted to win some money when my Trojans played UT
UT vs OSU?
Could be the most worst matchup of them all
Spoilers:
OSU gets burnt by speed, game over by half time
Bama vs. Penn
UT vs USC
would have been better matchups
UT vs OSU?
Could be the most worst matchup of them all
Spoilers:
OSU gets burnt by speed, game over by half time
Bama vs. Penn
UT vs USC
would have been better matchups
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
Mack Brown could break Chuck Norris' nose with a mean left hook and he'd still be half a man
don't see anything wrong with Leach's voting. just get rid of voting
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
He's only using the rationale that some UT fans had been using; head to head trumps everything. As for why he dropped u guys 2 more spots after that... maybe he felt USC & alabama were better.....or maybe he just really doesn't like u guys....
Wolf
100% Texan
He's only using the rationale that some UT fans had been using; head to head trumps everything. As for why he dropped u guys 2 more spots after that... maybe he felt USC & alabama were better.....or maybe he just really doesn't like u guys....
I don't know I just thought it was funny that he kept TT at number 2(I know why he did it because to try to help jump the computer rankings) but thought it was just funny to put him at #2 when he got destroyed by OU .. He could have put himself at #4 and UT at #5 and I wouldn't have thought anything of it and basically couldn't argue against it .
Again I have a feeling I know why he put them at #2 (as I stated above) .. Coaches have to vote the way they feel and also put consideration of the computer and they blurs the lines also of their voting process.
It is no big deal and happens all the time , just funny