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Draft Order and Opp % as of Weeks 13-17

Texas_Thrill

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# Team W-L Opponents W-L %

1 Houston1-11 .547
2 New York Jets 2-10 .526
*3 San Francisco 2-10 .552
*4 Green Bay 2-10 .552
5 Tennessee 3-9 .510
6 New Orleans 3-9 .526
7 Buffalo 4-8 .490
8 Cleveland 4-8 .500
*9 Arizona 4-8 .510
*10 Baltimore 4-8 .510
*11 Detroit 4-8 .510
12 Oakland 4-8 .526
13 Miami 5-7 .464
14 St. Louis 5-7 .484
15 Philadelphia 5-7 .526
16 Denver (f/WAS) 6-6 .557
17 Minnesota 7-5 .490
18 Atlanta 7-5 .495
19 Pittsburgh 7-5 .500
20 New England 7-5 .505
21 Dallas 7-5 .526
22 Tampa Bay 8-4 .448
*23 New York Giants 8-4 .500
*24 Kansas City 8-4 500
25 San Diego 8-4 .547
26 Chicago 9-3 .443
27 Carolina 9-3 .453
28 Jacksonville 9-3 .458
29 Cincinnati 9-3 .464
30 Denver 9-3 .505
31 Seattle 10-2 .427
32 Indianapolis 12-0 .448
 
I'll just post the updated version every tuesday so we'll all know where we stand.

Right now a win only drops us to the #2 spot so we're not in bad shape.
 
Here is something that is interesting. If the Jets and Packers win another game, and we beat the Niners, we could still end up with the first pick because strength of schedule is the first tie breaker not head to head.
 
tulexan said:
Here is something that is interesting. If the Jets and Packers win another game, and we beat the Niners, we could still end up with the first pick because strength of schedule is the first tie breaker not head to head.
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Are you sure? I thought if we tied with anyone we fall behind them due to SOS. Assuming we and the 49ers lose out and we beat them in the last game, we would both be 2 win teams. I THINK they get the 1st at that point. Don't quote me, but I think that is so.
 
edo783 said:
Are you sure? I thought if we tied with anyone we fall behind them due to SOS. Assuming we and the 49ers lose out and we beat them in the last game, we would both be 2 win teams. I THINK they get the 1st at that point. Don't quote me, but I think that is so.
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Draft Order Determination

Draft positions are determined by record, the team with the worst record during the regular season picks first and so on. If two teams have the same record, the strength of schedule tie-breaker is used which is the combined winning percentage of all teams on each team's schedule for the current season. If teams are still tied after strength of schedule has been applied, the division or conference tie breakers are used. If teams are still tied after applying all tiebreakers or if two teams are tied that are in different conferences, a coin toss after the season will determine which team gets priority.

http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/2005_draft_order.htm
 
Texas_Thrill said:
# Team W-L Opponents W-L %

*3 San Francisco 2-10 .552
*4 Green Bay 2-10 .552
*9 Arizona 4-8 .510
*10 Baltimore 4-8 .510
*11 Detroit 4-8 .510
*23 New York Giants 8-4 .500
*24 Kansas City 8-4 500
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What does the * mean? I'm a little slow today.
 
tulexan said:
Draft Order Determination

Draft positions are determined by record, the team with the worst record during the regular season picks first and so on. If two teams have the same record, the strength of schedule tie-breaker is used which is the combined winning percentage of all teams on each team's schedule for the current season. If teams are still tied after strength of schedule has been applied, the division or conference tie breakers are used. If teams are still tied after applying all tiebreakers or if two teams are tied that are in different conferences, a coin toss after the season will determine which team gets priority.

http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/2005_draft_order.htm
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OK, then based on that, if we tie with the 49ers at 2 wins each, they would get the #1 as our SOS is stronger.
 
edo783 said:
OK, then based on that, if we tie with the 49ers at 2 wins each, they would get the #1 as our SOS is stronger.
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according to the original post, we would since ours is .547 and theirs is .552
 
# Team W-L Opponents W-L %

1 Houston 1-12 .547
2 San Francisco 2-10 .526
3 New York Jets 3-10 .519
4 New Orleans 3-10 .534
5 Green Bay 3-10 543
*6 Tennessee 4-9 .500
*7 Buffalo 4-9 .500
*8 Cleveland 4-9 .505
*9 Arizona 4-9 .505
10 Detroit 4-9 .514
11 Baltimore 4-9 .519
12 Oakland 4-9 .529
13 St. Louis 5-8 .486
14 Philadelphia 5-8 .534
15 Miami 6-7 .466
16 Denver (f/WAS) 7-6 .548
17 Minnesota 8-5 .486
*18 Atlanta 8-5 .495
*19 Pittsburgh 8-5 .495
20 Kansas City 8-5 .505
21 New England 8-5 .510
22 Dallas 8-5 .514
23 San Diego 8-5 .553
*24 Tampa Bay 9-4 452
*25 Chicago 9-4 .452
*26 Jacksonville 9-4 .466
*27 Carolina 9-4 .466
28 New York Giants 9-4 .495
29 Cincinnati 10-3 .457
30 Denver 10-3 .495
31 Seattle 11-2 .428
32 Indianapolis 13-0 .442
 
The team with the LOWER SOS schedule actually gets priority b/c they lost to weaker competition is the way it goes.

So if we win against the Niners we will have the 2nd pick as it would play out.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
so a win would weaken our strength of schedule right?
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Technically yes, but at the same time the other 13 teams we've already played will be playing another game this week and adding to our overall strength of schedule too, and I believe the strength of schedule only includes teams we've already played, so adding the three new teams that we play and their records over these last few weeks will change it too, so the strength of schedule has the potential to change quite a bit over the last couple weeks.
 
but basically JUST say for measure we get into the game against the NINERS and our SOS is the same....winner gets 1st pick?

Assuming of course there is a one game difference b/w the two of us or how would that scenario have to play out?:confused:
 
Some key games for SOS this week.

Tampa v. New England: We need Tampa to win
Kansas City v. NY Giants: We need NY to win
St. Louis v. Philadelphia: We need St. Louis to win
San Diego v. Indianapolis: We need San Diego to win
San Francisco v. Jacksonville: We need San Francisco to win
Cincinnati v. Detroit: We need Detroit to win
Cleveland v. Oakland: We need Oakland to win
Dallas v. Washington: Either can win
Atlanta v. Chicago: We need Chicago to win
Green Bay v. Baltimore: We need Baltimore to win
 
Texas_Thrill said:
but basically JUST say for measure we get into the game against the NINERS and our SOS is the same....winner gets 1st pick?

Assuming of course there is a one game difference b/w the two of us or how would that scenario have to play out?:confused:
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If we enter week 17, have lost at least one of week 15 or 16, are one game behind the 49ers in record and have 2 or more opponent victories then the loser of the week 17 game will have the #1 pick.

If all of the above is true, but we have only 1 more opponent victory than the 49ers, we will have the first pick if we lose and a coin flip for #1 if we win.

If all of the above is true, except that we have the same or fewer number of opponent victories, then we get the #1 pick win or lose. (this is the situation that applies if we assume both teams lose weeks 15 and 16 and today's SOS numbers stay the same)

If our record is tied with the 49ers entering week 17, the loser of the game gets the #1 pick.
 
So does anyone know where we stand pickwise as of now? I assume #2. As we are tied with the niners.

If the 49ers WIN this week and we lose. would we then clinch it?
 
We are still #1 through SOS. I believe, but am not completely positive that our SOS is .544 and the Niners have an SOS of .587. If the Niners win this week and we lose then we will be in pretty good shape going into the Bush Bowl.
 
Texas_Thrill said:
So does anyone know where we stand pickwise as of now? I assume #2. As we are tied with the niners.

If the 49ers WIN this week and we lose. would we then clinch it?
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We are still technically #1, however if you assume we will win the "Bush Bowl", we are #3 or #4.

If the 49ers win and we lose, we don't quite clinch, but would be in good shape to still have #1 win or lose in week 17. Our SOS is currently 4 games up on the 49ers, but could slide down to three tonight if Baltimore wins.

Edit: We do need the Jets to win, though.
 
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