MorKnolle
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Just wanted to post this real quick before going to bed so I can have some feedback in the morning. Assuming we get the #1 pick in the draft, we have two basic options to choose from:
1) Draft Reggie Bush.
2) Trade Down.
Many people on this board want us to draft Reggie Bush, I do not feel that would be our best option, but it wouldn't be the end of the world to me either. Currently, the Jets, Packers, and 49ers are tied at 2-10. The Jets have looked horrible and have so many injuries on offense, so I really don't see them winning another game, so if we end up with the #1 pick, the Jets will almost for sure get the #2, and they are definitely interested in Reggie Bush. Luckily, the 49ers will probably be at #3 and they are also interested in Bush, so this puts us in a nifty little position of getting to take offers from teams. Even if we don't want to take Bush, we have to pretend to be interested to keep the trade value up. According to draft value charts, the #1 overall is worth slightly less (3000 pts.) than the #2 (2600 pts.) and #34 (560 pts.) put together (3160 pts.), which would be the Jets picks, but since they are so interested in Bush they may be willing to make that trade, so we could move down one spot and add the second pick in the second round as well, not a bad deal, and if the Jets aren't interested I'm sure the 49ers would give us their 1st (2200 pts.) and 2nd (550 pts.) rounders, and likely their third rounder (255 pts.) for a total 3005 pts, about even with the #1 overall value, but they get their man in Bush and know that if they can't trade up either we or the Jets will take him and there's no chance of him falling so they might be willing to spend a little more to get him. With that we could move down two spots and potentially pick up the third pick of the second and third rounds, also not bad as we could get just about anyone else we wanted (Jets would likely take Leinart if Pennington's health is still in question and we don't need him anyways) and have two extra very good picks to fill holes, or we could continue to trade down from there if we feel our top want (let's say my personal favorite choice Eric Winston) could be picked later (let's say we expect he'll fall to #8), we could likely trade #3 for #8, #40, and either their third round pick (#72) this year or a future 2nd rounder. For this example I'll say we pick up their second rounder for next year, leaving us with #8 (from new team), #33 (ours), #35 (from 49ers), #40 (from new team), #65 (ours), #67 (from 49ers), Saints 3rd rounder for this year plus an extra 2nd rounder for next year = one 1st, three high 2nds, and three high 3rds all on the first day of the draft, which we could fill some serious needs with.
Another option on trading down would be if we wanted to add some veteran defensive help. If we traded with the Jets, we could send them #1 likely for #2, John Abraham (49.5 sacks in 69 career games: nice DE in a 4-3 or OLB in 3-4) and either this year's third rounder or next years second rounder, maybe both. If we traded with the 49ers, we could send them #1 likely for #3, Julian Peterson (very good OLB), and a third rounder. As in the above example, if the 49ers trade worked out, we could trade down from there to the #8, which would mean we trade the #1 and end up with #8 (from new team), #33 (ours), #40 (from new team), #65 (ours), #67 (from 49ers), Saints 3rd rounder, and Julian Peterson = one 1st, two high 2nds, three high 3rds and a nice, young OLB.
Keep in mind all of this is speculative, we don't know for sure where we will end up in the draft or where these other teams will be and whether or not they'd agree to these trades, although they are approximately even in value according to the draft value chart. I chose the Jets and 49ers because they are both interested in Reggie Bush, will have high picks, and have a defensive player that could be of interest to us that they might be willing to trade to get Bush. Just thought I'd toss these ideas out so people can see what we could possibly get in exchange for passing on Reggie Bush and trading down. Any comments or other ideas? (Please keep the comments relatively serious, I'm trying to stimulate a serious thought process here) With that, I am going to bed and look forward to seeing what you people think in the morning.
1) Draft Reggie Bush.
2) Trade Down.
Many people on this board want us to draft Reggie Bush, I do not feel that would be our best option, but it wouldn't be the end of the world to me either. Currently, the Jets, Packers, and 49ers are tied at 2-10. The Jets have looked horrible and have so many injuries on offense, so I really don't see them winning another game, so if we end up with the #1 pick, the Jets will almost for sure get the #2, and they are definitely interested in Reggie Bush. Luckily, the 49ers will probably be at #3 and they are also interested in Bush, so this puts us in a nifty little position of getting to take offers from teams. Even if we don't want to take Bush, we have to pretend to be interested to keep the trade value up. According to draft value charts, the #1 overall is worth slightly less (3000 pts.) than the #2 (2600 pts.) and #34 (560 pts.) put together (3160 pts.), which would be the Jets picks, but since they are so interested in Bush they may be willing to make that trade, so we could move down one spot and add the second pick in the second round as well, not a bad deal, and if the Jets aren't interested I'm sure the 49ers would give us their 1st (2200 pts.) and 2nd (550 pts.) rounders, and likely their third rounder (255 pts.) for a total 3005 pts, about even with the #1 overall value, but they get their man in Bush and know that if they can't trade up either we or the Jets will take him and there's no chance of him falling so they might be willing to spend a little more to get him. With that we could move down two spots and potentially pick up the third pick of the second and third rounds, also not bad as we could get just about anyone else we wanted (Jets would likely take Leinart if Pennington's health is still in question and we don't need him anyways) and have two extra very good picks to fill holes, or we could continue to trade down from there if we feel our top want (let's say my personal favorite choice Eric Winston) could be picked later (let's say we expect he'll fall to #8), we could likely trade #3 for #8, #40, and either their third round pick (#72) this year or a future 2nd rounder. For this example I'll say we pick up their second rounder for next year, leaving us with #8 (from new team), #33 (ours), #35 (from 49ers), #40 (from new team), #65 (ours), #67 (from 49ers), Saints 3rd rounder for this year plus an extra 2nd rounder for next year = one 1st, three high 2nds, and three high 3rds all on the first day of the draft, which we could fill some serious needs with.
Another option on trading down would be if we wanted to add some veteran defensive help. If we traded with the Jets, we could send them #1 likely for #2, John Abraham (49.5 sacks in 69 career games: nice DE in a 4-3 or OLB in 3-4) and either this year's third rounder or next years second rounder, maybe both. If we traded with the 49ers, we could send them #1 likely for #3, Julian Peterson (very good OLB), and a third rounder. As in the above example, if the 49ers trade worked out, we could trade down from there to the #8, which would mean we trade the #1 and end up with #8 (from new team), #33 (ours), #40 (from new team), #65 (ours), #67 (from 49ers), Saints 3rd rounder, and Julian Peterson = one 1st, two high 2nds, three high 3rds and a nice, young OLB.
Keep in mind all of this is speculative, we don't know for sure where we will end up in the draft or where these other teams will be and whether or not they'd agree to these trades, although they are approximately even in value according to the draft value chart. I chose the Jets and 49ers because they are both interested in Reggie Bush, will have high picks, and have a defensive player that could be of interest to us that they might be willing to trade to get Bush. Just thought I'd toss these ideas out so people can see what we could possibly get in exchange for passing on Reggie Bush and trading down. Any comments or other ideas? (Please keep the comments relatively serious, I'm trying to stimulate a serious thought process here) With that, I am going to bed and look forward to seeing what you people think in the morning.
