Dolphins GM asked Dez Bryant if mom was prostitute | Apologizes after

[HoustonFrog]

Might as well.....

Rick Reilly....good article..alot more besides the quoted

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5161597

Let's play a game. I'll describe a childhood, and you figure out who had it.

Person No. 1 -- Raised in his grandmother's brothel, the son of a prostitute, he was raped by a neighbor at 6 and molested by a Catholic priest during catechism.

Person No. 2 -- Considered useless and distant, teachers wrote of him, as noted in Catherine Hurley's "Could do Better": "Certainly on the road to failure … hopeless … rather a clown in class … wasting other pupils' time."

Person No. 3 -- Raised in the brothel run by his aunt, he was once sent home from school for "insufficient clothes" and was arrested at 15 for breaking into cars.

Give up?

1. Richard Pryor.
2. John Lennon.
3. James Brown.

Arguably the greatest comedian, songwriter and soul singer of the 20th century, respectively.

The question isn't: "Why did Miami Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland ask Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant if his mom was a prostitute?" The question is: "Why should it matter?"

You're not drafting the mom, you're drafting the son! Supposing it's true that Angela Bryant was a prostitute at 15 when she had Dez, how does it reflect on his worth? How is it relevant? What was he supposed to do about it?

If the Dolphins were so concerned about how his mother's sexuality will affect him on the football field, did they ask him about her coming out as gay when he was in high school? Are we the people who raised us?

Honestly, the arrogance of the NFL makes me yearn for the open-mindedness of the McCarthy hearings. Hey, Dan Marino and Vince Young, you each scored 16 on the Wonderlic? Can't draft you.

People rise above. Can you name the NBA superstar who was the son of a heroin addict? Whose South Side Chicago mom was constantly strung out? Who, at 5, was being raised by his 9-year-old sister? Dwyane Wade. Would Ireland have passed on him?

Bryant has never been arrested and has never had an incident involving violence, drugs or alcohol. But I know somebody who has. You might even call him out of control -- arrested three times for driving violations, including once for suspicion of driving and drinking (later reduced). Bill Gates. Who'd want him on their team?

 

[Dread-Head]

congratulations, you're a 4th grader

this thread needs closing. this story has been ****ed out more than Dez Bryant's mom. time to move on.

Insult me all you want, but there are things you don't do.

1. You don't insult a man's MOTHER

2. You don't insult his WIFE

3 You don't lay hands on his DAUGHTER

4. You never mess with a mother's kids.

If you do any of the aforementioned and get your @$$ whipped...don't blame Dessinex and for YOUR information I'm in the 5th grade fish-boy! Bill and I got promoted!

 

[JB]

Insult me all you want, but there are things you don't do.

1. You don't insult a man's MOTHER

2. You don't insult his WIFE

3 You don't lay hands on his DAUGHTER

4. You never mess with a mother's kids.

If you do any of the aforementioned and get your @$$ whipped...don't blame Dessinex and for YOUR information I'm in the 5th grade fish-boy! Bill and I got promoted!

Congratulations man, I knew y'all could do it!

 

[Dread-Head]

Might as well.....

Rick Reilly....good article..alot more besides the quoted

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5161597

1. Did NOT know Prior had been raped by a neighbor OR molested by a priest. I knew the man was tortured by his inner demons, but I never knew there were so many.

2. Lennon? I'd heard that about him

3. James Brown? Knew all the aforementioned and think perhaps James himself said it best when he said: "Ahwesabbemesuhmamebahaha."

 

[Dread-Head]

Congratulations man, I knew y'all could do it!

WE cheated of that Vietnamese girl who sat in front of us. Thanks Thuy Tran! I owe small Asian women so much...(insert joke here.)

 

[kastofsna]

Insult me all you want, but there are things you don't do.

1. You don't insult a man's MOTHER

2. You don't insult his WIFE

3 You don't lay hands on his DAUGHTER

4. You never mess with a mother's kids.

If you do any of the aforementioned and get your @$$ whipped...don't blame Dessinex

your line of thinking is exactly like extremist terrorists, cool job!

i dont know where i'm going with this

 

[Dread-Head]

your line of thinking is exactly like extremist terrorists, cool job!

i dont know where i'm going with this

So if you were being interviewed by a perspective client and he/she asked: "Have your mother, wife or daughter ever been prostitutes?" You wouldn't want to box the guys head? I'm 40 years old and if someone wrongs me my 67 year old mother would go ballistic. I'd have to calm her down. You don't mess with a guy's family. You just don't do it.

 

[BullNation4Life]

So if you were being interviewed by a perspective client and he/she asked: "Have your mother, wife or daughter ever been prostitutes?" You wouldn't want to box the guys head? I'm 40 years old and if someone wrongs me my 67 year old mother would go ballistic. I'd have to calm her down. You don't mess with a guy's family. You just don't do it.

Had I lived in that type of world or been exposed to it, where my mother was a prostitute and a known drug user that had been arrested as recent as 2009, and a client wanted to give me a significant amount of money but was worried about their investment due to my mother and not only the life she led but the people she hung around that could effect me in the long run because of my close relationship to her...

Would have no problem with them asking me that question and would totally understand and respect their concern. I would simply explain to them I am not apart of that world and it is kept at a great distance from not only myself but also my place of employment. That is just me though.....

difference with Bryant is, he is moving his mother, who has been busted for drugs in 2009, with him in Dallas. I hope things turn out well and Bryant has a historic career, but this scenario has played out before and it has played out very bad in the end...

 

[GlassHalfFull]

Ya know what just struck me as hugely funny in the ironic sense?? All the reporters bashing Ireland for inappropriate questions. Like theirs are alway so appropriate.

Continue on, please excuse this public service announcement.

 

[BullNation4Life]

Ya know what just struck me as hugely funny in the ironic sense?? All the reporters bashing Ireland for inappropriate questions. Like theirs are alway so appropriate.

Continue on, please excuse this public service announcement.

Even more ironic, haven't seen many players or former players blasting Ireland. Though I haven't watch much NFL Network or the 4 letter network but have noticed a few former players say it was an inappropriate question, but one that needed to be asked due to the people that could be around Bryant and could possibly bring him down. Some have even said they got asked worse.

 

[HoustonFrog]

Had I lived in that type of world or been exposed to it, where my mother was a prostitute and a known drug user that had been arrested as recent as 2009, and a client wanted to give me a significant amount of money but was worried about their investment due to my mother and not only the life she led but the people she hung around that could effect me in the long run because of my close relationship to her...

Would have no problem with them asking me that question and would totally understand and respect their concern. I would simply explain to them I am not apart of that world and it is kept at a great distance from not only myself but also my place of employment. That is just me though.....

difference with Bryant is, he is moving his mother, who has been busted for drugs in 2009, with him in Dallas. I hope things turn out well and Bryant has a historic career, but this scenario has played out before and it has played out very bad in the end...

You are a piece of work...among other things. Now this surprise 2009 arrest is part of your argument for asking it. Read the rest of the Reilly column above if you can get through it without typing. It really makes sense and makes your defending it even more laughable. I'm sure you will just keep yammering though.

More

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5161597

Bryant could sue and probably win. Because the same rules that apply to Joe CEO interviewing somebody about a job apply to Joe GM interviewing somebody about a place on a team. It's a civil rights violation to ask any question "not related to essential job functions." And that includes "lineage, ancestry, national origin, descent, nationality or parentage."

But hey, people make mistakes. Can you name the 1991 Baylor kicker who missed three field goals, including a 27-yarder, against Rice, helping the eighth-ranked Bears lose by three to a 20.5-point underdog? The kicker who was roundly hated and booed but went on to become a well-respected man in professional football?

 

[BullNation4Life]

Might as well.....

Rick Reilly....good article..alot more besides the quoted

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5161597

Speaking of prostitutes...

Pimped his own self out...

 

[BullNation4Life]

You are a piece of work...among other things. Now this surprise 2009 arrest is part of your argument for asking it. Read the rest of the Reilly column above if you can get through it without typing. It really makes sense and makes your defending it even more laughable. I'm sure you will just keep yammering though.

yes please let us believe everything Rick "pimp myself out" Reilly has to say. You mean the same Rick Reilly that wrote about a high school basketball team here in Houston, said he wanted to fight the coach and got not even half the stats correct. Had NEVER seen one basketball game in person. Yes let us put our faith in this weasel...Nice try

Can you not think for yourself for one post? Everything you have posted is based on someone else opinion. But then again most sheeple do follow the others...

Oh surprise arrest or not, is defiantly a concern and being this isn't the FIRST time she was busted. we are suppose to believe she was away from that world, right? Isn't that what the media tried to make seem like, that She was far removed from that life. Well as of 2009, she was still apart of that life, drug side anyways....

Where their are prostitutes, there are pimps, where there are pimps, there are drugs, where there are drugs there are very bad people all living in the same world....

 

[BullNation4Life]

You are a piece of work...among other things. Now this surprise 2009 arrest is part of your argument for asking it. Read the rest of the Reilly column above if you can get through it without typing. It really makes sense and makes your defending it even more laughable. I'm sure you will just keep yammering though.

More

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=5161597

Again, letting others dictate your opinion, but it's cool. To each their own I guess...

 

[HoustonFrog]

yes please let us believe everything Rick "pimp myself out" Reilly has to say. You mean the same Rick Reilly that wrote about a high school basketball team here in Houston, said he wanted to fight the coach and got not even half the stats correct. Had NEVER seen one basketball game in person. Yes let us put our faith in this weasel...Nice try

Can you not think for yourself for one post? Everything you have posted is based on someone else opinion. But then again most sheeple do follow the others...

Oh surprise or not, is defiantly a concern...

What are you talking about?Talk about thinking for yourself. Using 3rd down cutdowns and glossing 90% of people here is just plain immature. You've done it since the word go. It's like you don't even read half the things written or consider any other opinion. I gave you a real example of MY friend playing for Bill Walsh, etc. You just skip all of this because it doesn't jive and the guy you know knows all. I'm just putting info out there for public consumption. His article contained facts, not pure opinion. Mike Ditka is a hard ass that interviewed players and coached winner. You, without batting an eyelash, take the writers history and pick one article and say he is a sell out. Its ridiculous. The longer this goes the more embarrassing you get. You have told multiple people here that they are twisting your words. No one is twisting your words. They are taking the words you wrote as an opinion and showing you how you can't keep facts or opinion straight. It's amazing how it keeps happening with so many people...it must be all of us.

Again, how is his Mom's arrest a concern? This is how in left field you are...the article you just panned shows that people can succeed despite a parent. But you can't put it all together. At this point its amazing that this revolves around a guy looking to play football and a GM, the only GM to do it, asking about if a guys mother is a prostitute. Makes sense to me.

 

[BullNation4Life]

What are you talking about?Talk about thinking for yourself. Using 3rd down cutdowns and glossing 90% of people here is just plain immature. You've done it since th eword go. It's like you don't even read half the things written or consider any other's opinion. I gave you a real example of MY friend playing for Bill Walsh, etc. You just skip all of this because it doesn't jive. I'm just putting info out there for public consumption. His article contained facts, not pure opinion. You, without batting an eyelash, take the writers history and pick one article and say he is a sell out. Its ridiculous. The longer tghis goes the more embarrassing you get. You have told multiple people here that they are twisting your words. No one is twisting your words. They are taking the words you wrote as an opinion and showing you how you can't keep facts or opinion straight. It's amazing how it keeps happening with so many people...it must be all of us.

Again, how is his Mom's arrest a concern. This is how in left field you are...the article you just panned shows that people can succeed despite a parent. But you can't put it all together.

WRONG! show me ONCE where I cut anybody down, before the sheeple comment! ONCE! In FACT I agreed several times, it was inappropriate questioning, but you cannot see that and I don't expect you to.Look in the mirror and you'll see the one calling people asinine and such. But I wouldn't expect less from you, I posted my opinion and nothing more, you didn't like it and formatted yours around others and the media...ie: sheeple....thinking for yourself is ok too...

he sold out the minute he signed with ESPN. My OPINION, but I am not alone in that opinion...

The fact you do not want to see how she is a concern is your fault and not mine. She is a known prostitute, which in turn a known drug user And lives in a world and around people that can bring him down, And he is moving her into HIS house.. Like stated before, Marcellus Wiley said the EXACT same thing, it was inappropriate but he understood. I think I will go with the guy who actually PLAYED in the NFL and went through similar inappropriate questioning, as a rookie and a free agent, rather a bunch of weasels that think they have all the answers....

How is that picture not painted for you? Oh that's right, Rick Reilly didn't write about that so we don't form our own opinions....

 

[WWJD]

Holy moly...let Dez and his mama be.

If she does something that she needs to be put in jail for put her in jail. If he wants to move her to his house let him. Who cares? It's his mama, their lives and he can do whatever he wants in regards to her.

He's a polite kid who just got the chance for a big life. Good for him.

 

[BullNation4Life]

What are you talking about?Talk about thinking for yourself. Using 3rd down cutdowns and glossing 90% of people here is just plain immature. You've done it since the word go. It's like you don't even read half the things written or consider any other opinion. I gave you a real example of MY friend playing for Bill Walsh, etc. You just skip all of this because it doesn't jive and the guy you know knows all. I'm just putting info out there for public consumption. His article contained facts, not pure opinion. Mike Ditka is a hard ass that interviewed players and coached winner. You, without batting an eyelash, take the writers history and pick one article and say he is a sell out. Its ridiculous. The longer this goes the more embarrassing you get. You have told multiple people here that they are twisting your words. No one is twisting your words. They are taking the words you wrote as an opinion and showing you how you can't keep facts or opinion straight. It's amazing how it keeps happening with so many people...it must be all of us.

Again, how is his Mom's arrest a concern? This is how in left field you are...the article you just panned shows that people can succeed despite a parent. But you can't put it all together. At this point its amazing that this revolves around a guy looking to play football and a GM, the only GM to do it, asking about if a guys mother is a prostitute. Makes sense to me.

Key word there is CAN, they CAN succeed, but how many do in reality? Hell of alot more don't than do and that is FACT. Reality, please come back to it....

 

[BullNation4Life]

Holy moly...let Dez and his mama be.

If she does something that she needs to be put in jail for put her in jail. If he wants to move her to his house let him. Who cares? It's his mama, their lives and he can do whatever he wants in regards to her.

He's a polite kid who just got the chance for a big life. Good for him.

And never once said it was wrong nor a bad thing. However as an employer, I would be concerned about who she brings around her son and what trouble could potentially find him. That is all.

 

[GlassHalfFull]

And never once said it was wrong nor a bad thing. However as an employer, I would be concerned about who she brings around her son and what trouble could potentially find him. That is all.

Please.

 

[HoustonFrog]

WRONG! show me ONCE where I cut anybody down, before the sheeple comment! ONCE! In FACT I agreed several times, it was inappropriate questioning, but you cannot see that and I don't expect you to.Look in the mirror and you'll see the one calling people asinine and such. But I wouldn't expect less from you, I posted my opinion and nothing more, you didn't like it and formatted yours around others and the media...ie: sheeple....thinking for yourself is ok too...

he sold out the minute he signed with ESPN. My OPINION, but I am not alone in that opinion...

The fact you do not want to see how she is a concern is your fault and not mine. She is a knows prostitute, which in turn a known drug user moving into HIS house...How is that picture not painted for you? Oh that's right, Rick Reilly didn't write about that so we don't form our own opinions....

Here you go

.

If I am shelling out million upon million of dollars on a player or anything else for that matter, I get to be as assinine as dam well feel like it. Not your money that is being spent, it the franchise and the owner. Are you really that naive to think these questions were nto looked at by the Owner and President of the franchise? Hell that particular question has Parcells writen all over it....

Ok step down from your moral high horse and come back to reality. No freaking way you would get up and walk out of a room and leave 15 million dollars on the table.

You would do what 98% of the people in America would do, sit there, take the questioning and go cash your 15 million dollar check.

It is so easy for you or anybody else to say cause you have never been in that situation so please just stop...

At least I am honest and not hiding behind some false sense of pride, like allot of you are. No F'ING way are you or anybody on this board gonna turn away 10-15 million dollars down when they had nothing to begin with because of a question. GET THE F OUTTA HERE!
If you say, "I WOULD" then you are just a liar and unrealistic.....

first off, you got your posted alllllll f'ed up.....

NOBODY said Bryant was turning down 15 million. NOBODY! That statement was sent to those on this board that said no amount of money would make them work for a boss, in the real world that was an asshole like this GM and I say BS. I posed question saying if they are offering you 15 million, you are not gonna walk away because of a question. Hell if they are offering you 100-200k, you are not walking away.

I said the GM probably asked the question, to get an emotional response, BEFORE giving a player 15 million, which is the estimate for that draft pick in the 11th, had they kept the pick and Drafted Bryant. I Never said he wasn't getting paid nor was he not going in the first round. Stop reading what isn't there...

Never said it was his one chance, see yall are getting way off track. As for Ditka and NFLPA, doesn't really matter what they say cause I wasn't ever talking about them faking it, was talking about those here on this board that act like they have higher morals and would walk away from a better life...

I can't keep up.



understatement of the year...

A string of them put together by JB as you spun for your life

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1422525&postcount=178

Can you not think for yourself for one post? Everything you have posted is based on someone else opinion. But then again most sheeple do follow the others...

..

 

[WWJD]

And never once said it was wrong nor a bad thing. However as an employer, I would be concerned about who she brings around her son and what trouble could potentially find him. That is all.

Well unless you're Jerry and toting that big check coming Dez's way just some friendly advice..don't worry at it so much. Your point was made long ago.

 

[HoustonFrog]

Well unless you're Jerry and toting that big check coming Dez's way just some friendly advice..don't worry at it so much. Your point was made long ago.

I was also wondering when it became a FACT that she was a prostitute and when it was announced she was moving in.

 

[HOU-TEX]

Holy moly...let Dez and his mama be.

If she does something that she needs to be put in jail for put her in jail. If he wants to move her to his house let him. Who cares? It's his mama, their lives and he can do whatever he wants in regards to her.

He's a polite kid who just got the chance for a big life. Good for him.

Please.

Yes, and yes. You young ladies bring sense into the thread. Now, will they listen?

 

[StarStruck]

And never once said it was wrong nor a bad thing. However as an employer, I would be concerned about who she brings around her son and what trouble could potentially find him. That is all.

Jerry Jones is now Dez' employer. Apparently he isn't concerned enough about the background of Bryant's mother to deny him an opportunity to earn a living in his corporation. Like him or not, Jerry's business, Jerry's decision. He has lived with the decisions good and bad that he has made in the past, and will continue to do so.

 

[GlassHalfFull]

Yes, and yes. You young ladies bring sense into the thread. Now, will they listen?

Not a prayer of them listening. We have a classic case of lastworditis going on here. We need Cloak and Dagger to provide medical assistance.

 

[HOU-TEX]

Not a prayer of them listening. We have a classic case of lastworditis going on here. We need Cloak and Dagger to provide medical assistance.

Hmmm, I never knew that could be medically treated. I might have to look into that for my wife. *Just kidding, Dear*

 

[BullNation4Life]

Jerry Jones is now Dez' employer. Apparently he isn't concerned enough about the background of Bryant's mother to deny him an opportunity to earn a living in his corporation. Like him or not, Jerry's business, Jerry's decision. He has lived with the decisions good and bad that he has made in the past, and will continue to do so.

Apparently not, he has Michael Irvin as his mentor....

Like having Plexico Buress teach gun safety....

 

[HoustonFrog]

Hmmm, I never knew that could be medically treated. I might have to look into that for my wife. *Just kidding, Dear*

See you had to post last, maybe it's you with the issue.............now I'm last It started as a simple posting of an article

 

[BullNation4Life]

Here you go











A string of them put together by JB as you spun for your life

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1422525&postcount=178

wow that is just sad, can't form your own opinion AND you actually had time to do that....add that one as well. I found nothing in those comments insulting, however I do have thicker skin so I must apologize for that. I have yet to conform to this PC, pansy ass society we now live in where everything is hunky dory and kumbaya.Oh and just so you know, you threw the first stone...

So if I am immature, what's that make you? You are much older, yet less wiser....

 

[GlassHalfFull]

MODS: Can someone merge this thread with the last one to post wins thread????

 

[StarStruck]

Apparently not, he has Michael Irvin as his mentor....

Like having Plexico Buress teach gun safety....

Since he is a member of the Cowboys team, I would think that you would be delighted with the possibilities.

 

[BullNation4Life]

Since he is a member of the Cowboys team, I would think that you would be delighted with the possibilities.

On the field, abso-freaking-lutly...Just do not want my new star player hanging around one who's star has fallen so far and been in the media in a negative light off the field far too many times...

 

[StarStruck]

On the field, abso-freaking-lutly...Just do not want my new star player hanging around one who's star has fallen so far and been in the media in a negative light off the field far too many times...

Jerry, is that you?

 

[HOU-TEX]

MODS: Can someone merge this thread with the last one to post wins thread????

That was funny stuff right there!

 

[BullNation4Life]

Jerry, is that you?

Man if I were he and he were me, last thing I would ever be doing is yukking it up on a message board. A Texan message board at that...

I'd be watching Avatar or playing Modern Warfare 2 on my big ass TV inside my stadium...I wouldn't have time for these shenanigans...

 

[HoustonFrog]

MODS: Can someone merge this thread with the last one to post wins thread????

wow that is just sad, can't form your own opinion AND you actually had time to do that....add that one as well. I found nothing in those comments insulting, however I do have thicker skin so I must apologize for that. I have yet to conform to this PC, pansy ass society we now live in where everything is hunky dory and kumbaya.Oh and just so you know, you threw the first stone...

So if I am immature, what's that make you? You are much older, yet less wiser....

That post =

Your honor, I rest my case

I'm the last word turd

End Thread.

 

[BullNation4Life]

That post =

Your honor, I rest my case

I'm the turd

End Thread.

why yes, yes you are....

While you are at it, go ahead and add the word "hypocrite" to your list. You should know that word quite well...

 

[JB]

 

[WWJD]

Yes, and yes. You young ladies bring sense into the thread. Now, will they listen?

God bless you for the YOUNG ladies comment..that's not something this old broad hears much!

 

[Texecutioner]

Finally someone who gets it. People act like there haven't been tons and tons of wasted draft picks in the first round due to immaturity and off the field problems from guys who can't handle tough questions like that and can't handle unexpected things being said to them to where they end up going off and getting arrested or suspended. Especially at the WR position where there have been a ton of busts from the first round (Mike Williams, Braylen Edwards, Charles Rodgers, and etc.) who were immature and didn't know how to carry themselves and respond to adverse situations.

There was nothing wrong with that question at all. Any employer who is about to invest Millions of dollars into you and make you the face of their franchise has ever right to know anything they want to know about you or your upbringing and how you might respond to things that aren't expected.

These guys are adults and not children. Just about any company in North America would want to know about a guy's adversity and upbringing if that employer was aware or at least heard that the player had been around a ton of drugs and prostitution by his own mother growing up. Why wouldn't a potential employer want to know how that might have effected that person and how they bounced back from that?

Oh and let's not forget about the fact that the player that was just asked the question was just kicked out of college football by the NCAA and hurt his team's chances by not being around when they needed him on the field. Hell the guy's already got a checkered history regarding suspensions and not being able to play due to poor decisions. Ireland was doing his job exactly how he should have and if I were the Dolphins owner I'd be glad that I had a guy who was looking out for my investments.

This looks like a pretty good time to revive this thread.

I'll just quote my own post here, and it's rather comical to look back and read some of the posts that were argued so hard for Dez Bryant when all of this went down. I couldn't believe how so many people thought Jeff Ireland was so out of line for wanting to know the kind of player he might be potentially getting himself involved with. I heard a ton of excuses for Dez bryant from his jewlery incidents, to his pants sagging incidents, to all of the crap he pulled in college that got him suspended from the league. ANd Dez's latest incident involved THE INFAMOUS MOTHER THAT SO MANY PEOPLE TRIED TO SAY WAS WRONG TO ASK ABOUT. Boy, a ton of you guys were wrong on this one. Jeff Ireland was dead on by wanting to know about Dez, his mother, and their family environment and everything else that came with it.

Here are Dez Bryant's current rules from the Cowboys of all teams. Lol!

• A midnight curfew. If he's going to miss curfew, team officials must know in advance;


• No drinking alcohol.

• He can't attend any strip clubs and can only attend nightclubs if they are approved by the team and he has a security team with him.

• He must attend counseling sessions twice a week.

• A rotating three-man security team will leave one man with Bryant at all times.

• Members of the security team will drive Bryant to practices, games and team functions.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story...here-strict-team-mandated-guidelines-behavior

 

[The Pencil Neck]

I totally stand by my position on this.

Asking someone, in a professional setting, if their mother is a prostitute is an inappropriate question. Period.

If Ireland had the research and already knew that this kid's mom was a prostitute and that the kid wasn't draftable because of his mental issues from his upbringing, then he shouldn't have set up a meeting with him. If Ireland was considering drafting him, he should have asked the question differently.

Whether Dez Bryant is a whack job or not isn't relevant. You don't ask that question.

 

[GP]

Well, I nailed my opinion.

People said I was crazy for suggesting that the Cowboys have Dez agree to being babysitted around the clock.

Looks like I was right. It's sad, but it's reality...the guy has too much at stake to not have a team of caretakers surrounding him all the time.

Is Texan Bill the one who approves Dez's nightclub list? Uh-oh.

 

[mattieuk]

Here are Dez Bryant's current rules from the Cowboys of all teams. Lol!

Don't want to go anywhere near the original topic of this thread.

However with regards to the latest news out of Dallas - I can't see this situation ending well. These guys have all sorts of options available to them - be it team or league sponsored programs to make sure they can get themselves home after a night out clubbing to programs that they can get themselves involved in off the field to limit their exposure to potentially career damaging situations.

A lot of these guys who get a bad rep ignore these options, and seem to have an issue with the idea of a third party messing in their personal life. I can't see someone with the perceived attitude like him living with these guidelines to follow.

 

[GlassHalfFull]

Don't want to go anywhere near the original topic of this thread.

However with regards to the latest news out of Dallas - I can't see this situation ending well. These guys have all sorts of options available to them - be it team or league sponsored programs to make sure they can get themselves home after a night out clubbing to programs that they can get themselves involved in off the field to limit their exposure to potentially career damaging situations.

A lot of these guys who get a bad rep ignore these options, and seem to have an issue with the idea of a third party messing in their personal life. I can't see someone with the perceived attitude like him living with these guidelines to follow.

Didn't the Cowboys try this with Pacman Jones? IIRC, it ended well. That is, Pacman got in a fight with his babysitter.

 

[Texn4life]

Well, I nailed my opinion.

People said I was crazy for suggesting that the Cowboys have Dez agree to being babysitted around the clock.

Looks like I was right. It's sad, but it's reality...the guy has too much at stake to not have a team of caretakers surrounding him all the time.

Is Texan Bill the one who approves Dez's nightclub list? Uh-oh.

I don't recall anyone saying you're crazy. They already tried this with Pac Man and it failed. If a grown man wants to find trouble he's going to find trouble its as simple as that. My stance was that at some point he has to have some self discipline. Is he going to be a 30 year old player still getting babysat playing for the Cowboys? I hope the best for Dez I really do, but you're right in saying its sad. His teammates will have all kind of fun stories for him about their adventures in the strip clubs and their late nights while he gets to play checkers with one of his security guards. I have a feeling this won't end well.