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Dolphins GM asked Dez Bryant if mom was prostitute | Apologizes after

HoustonFrog said:
Here are my issues with this story. a) If true why not tell your side right off the bat before it took a life of its own and b) why apologize and in the apology reference how the question wasn't appropriate in its context. To me the Dolphins look worse
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Exactly. If it were me, media would not take something I said out of context, and my reply would be simply, I apologize.

I understand context because it happened to me once. I made a statement in detail, and the writer chose to clip, and make about a five word sentence that totally misrepresented what I had said. When I read it, I was livid, and we got that comment straight immediately.
 
StarStruck said:
Exactly. If it were me, media would not take something I said out of context, and my reply would be simply, I apologize.

I understand context because it happened to me once. I made a statement in detail, and the writer chose to clip, and make about a five word sentence. When I read it, I was livid, and we got that comment straight immediately.
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They may feel sorry that the question was inappropriate, doesn't me they think it was wrong of them to ask. There is a difference between inappropriate and wrong...
 
BullNation4Life said:
so they have a very bad PR rep, so sue them....

you apologize, get it over and move one. Maybe it was the way Ireland delivered the question, his tone rather, that he thought was inappropriate, who knows but them two...
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Are you kidding me?You are the same guy talking about how this is a multimillion/billion dollar business and how reputation is everything. How vetting hardcore is how to get the job done. Now you are saying a NFL team should take the PR hit and move on with an apology?

Please stop. The circles you spin have become trenches. I can't keep up.

infantrycak said:
Please list all the actions making Bryant a bad apple.
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This
 
infantrycak said:
Please list all the actions making Bryant a bad apple.
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i agree with this. He is immature at times, but not a bad guy. I think if he has trouble, it will be because he needs to grow up. Seems like a decent guy truth be told and NO ONE deserves to be asked that question. I'm a guy who grew up mostly without a dad, and my mom was all I had, and if he had asked me that, he would be having his teeth put back in. And I'm a pretty calm, level headed guy.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=5151539

Cowboys rookie receiver Dez Bryant has denied that a question from Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland in a predraft interview asking if his mother was a prostitute was prompted by something Bryant said.

"No, I didn't tell him my dad was a pimp," Bryant said in a text message to ESPN's Ed Werder on Thursday................

Following the Cowboys' first rookie minicamp Friday, Bryant was asked about the conversation in the SI.com story.

"No, that's a lie," he said to reporters. "I really don't want to speak on that."
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HoustonFrog said:
Are you kidding me?You are the same guy talking about how this is a multimillion/billion dollar business and how reputation is everything. How vetting hardcore is how to get the job done. Now you are saying a NFL team should take the PR hit and move on with an apology?

Please stop. The circles you spin have become trenches. I can't keep up.



This
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NOT SAYING THAT! quite twisting words again. I am merely putting myself in their shoes to understand the reasoning....

the question was posed as to why the apology? A: because someone shoots their mouth off to the press B: They apologize, take the PR hit and move on. Didn't say it was right nor did I say I was for it but allot if times it is how they think...

I am just taking everything that is being said, and what I have read and looking at it from different angles. Why be obtuse and only get half the story?
 
BullNation4Life said:
NOT SAYING THAT! quite twisting words again. I am merely putting myself in their shoes to understand the reasoning....

the question was posed as to why the apology? A: because someone shoots their mouth off to the press B: They apologize, take the PR hit and move on. Didn't say it was right nor did I say I was for it but allot if times it is how they think...

I am just taking everything that is being said, and what I have read and looking at it from different angles. Why be obtuse and only get half the story?
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Not obtuse at all. I'm just taking all your rationale together. It makes it easier to follow someones train of thought when it all matches. Speculation is fine by me but you can't really see the person and their thought bubble when it is posted here so it comes across as how they are thinking. Especially with how you wrote it

so they have a very bad PR rep, so sue them....

you apologize, get it over and move one. Maybe it was the way Ireland delivered the question, his tone rather, that he thought was inappropriate, who knows but them two...
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Super Mario said:
Is this thread still going on in circles? Jeez you guys really want to change eachothers minds bad.
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I never wanted to change anyone's mind. Can't change someone's mind if you are only stating your opinion, which is what I have done for what 5 pages now?

I just want to understand the reasoning behind the question, and I do. Doesn't mean anybody else does or wants to, that that is cool, but their was reason behind asking that question, and I feel it had allot to do with not only getting a emotional reaction from Bryant, but also wanting to know what kind of people are around this kid I may or may not give millions of dollars to play for my franchise and are they going to influence him in a negative manner that may get him suspended or worse?

I am not the only one in the media that has said this. An NFL player said pretty much the same thing...
 
I can't keep up either Frog. I think my confusion is more due to my age but anyway...have fun being obtuse!:spin:
 
BullNation4Life said:
I never wanted to change anyone's mind. Can't change someone's mind if you are only stating your opinion, which is what I have done for what 5 pages now?

I just want to understand the reasoning behind the question, and I do. Doesn't mean anybody else does or wants to, that that is cool, but their was reason behind asking that question, and I feel it had allot to do with not only getting a emotional reaction from Bryant, but also wanting to know what kind of people are around this kid I may or may not give millions of dollars to play for my franchise and are they going to influence him in a negative manner that may get him suspended or worse?

I am not the only one in the media that has said this. An NFL player said pretty much the same thing...
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:listening
 
WWJD said:
I can't keep up either Frog. I think my confusion is more due to my age but anyway...have fun being obtuse!:spin:
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Andy Dufresne: How can you be so obtuse?
Warden Samuel Norton: What? What did you call me?
Andy Dufresne: Obtuse. Is it deliberate?
Warden Samuel Norton: Son, you're forgetting yourself.
 
HoustonFrog said:
Not obtuse at all. I'm just taking all your rationale together. It makes it easier to follow someones train of thought when it all matches. Speculation is fine by me but you can't really see the person and their thought bubble when it is posted here so it comes across as how they are thinking. Especially with how you wrote it
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Never said you were. Did I ever once say "you're being" in that sentence? I was talking about myself.

twisting words again....
 
Super Mario said:
But I understand where the comment is coming from. I don't care if it was an asshole thing to say. BullNation wants to make sure that HOU-TEX can handle a negative comment before he commits to a conversation with him.

/sarcasm
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that was a bit unnecessary...never called anybody an asshole, merely pointed out that the word ass and hole can be brought together to form one word, as it was pointed out to me that proof and reading can form one word...

WORD TWISTING - FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY!
 
BullNation4Life said:
HoustonFrog said:
I can't keep up.



understatement of the year...
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BullNation4Life said:
NOT SAYING THAT! quite twisting words again. I am merely putting myself in their shoes to understand the reasoning....

the question was posed as to why the apology? A: because someone shoots their mouth off to the press B: They apologize, take the PR hit and move on. Didn't say it was right nor did I say I was for it but allot if times it is how they think...

I am just taking everything that is being said, and what I have read and looking at it from different angles. Why be obtuse and only get half the story?
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BullNation4Life said:
:clap:

so is asshole...
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BullNation4Life said:
Never said you were. Did I ever once say "you're being" in that sentence? I was talking about myself.

twisting words again....
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BullNation4Life said:
Did I say "You're an asshole?" Do feel that word pertains to you? I merely stated that ass and hole can be combined to form one word, like proof and reading in which you clearly pointed out...
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BullNation4Life said:
that was a bit unnecessary...never called anybody an asshole, merely pointed out that the word ass and hole can be brought together to form one word, as it was pointed out to me that proof and reading can form one word...

WORD TWISTING - FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY!
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Your posts remind of the song "Slip Sliding Away"
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BullNation4Life said:
that was a bit unnecessary...never called anybody an asshole, merely pointed out that the word ass and hole can be brought together to form one word, as it was pointed out to me that proof and reading can form one word...

WORD TWISTING - FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY!
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You and krocket must live next door to each other.

LOL.
 
BullNation4Life said:
He has NEVER faced what he is about to face in the NFL from the media. We're not talking about some pimple faced kid writing for the school paper. We are talking New York, Philadelphia, Washington, etc. Reporters that will bring up stuff on you, you didn't even know existed and now that THIS is out there, it is ammunition for places like that. those outlets have no limits. they want the story that nobody has, even if it means pushing buttons and talking about a very sore subject to get it...

I am quite sure it has come up, but I bet it hasn't been addressed like it might be in those cities...
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LOL, why the hell do you keep bringing up "the NFL media". Umm the NFL media isn't that bad and they don't go around popping off the "was your mom a whore" question. You're trying to create a problem when there isn't one. If the "NFL media" was so so bad like you said, everybody would've knew about his mom's checkered past a LONG time ago. The NFL media is actually quite forgiving...dude would have absolute NO problems if he can play.
 
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Carr Bombed said:
LOL, why the hell do you keep bringing up "the NFL media". Umm the NFL media isn't that bad and they don't go around popping off the "was your mom a whore" question. You're trying to create a problem when there isn't one. If the "NFL media" was so so bad like you said, everybody would've knew about his mom's checkered past a LONG time ago. The NFL media is actually quite forgiving...dude when have absolute NO problems if he can play.
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I hate this damn laptop! I spent 15 minutes posting a reply to this and my laptop ate it lika a freakin dawg. :pissed:
 
when I heard about this story and the way the media printed it out.. I thought"what the hell?"

as I saw today.. it was a legit question

I haven't went through the other 9 pages but as they said on TV

DB said .. "my dad was a pimp and my mom worked for him"


dolphins guy said.. "was she a prostitute?"

DB said "no"



mountain out of a molehill
 
Wolf said:
when I heard about this story and the way the media printed it out.. I thought"what the hell?"

as I saw today.. it was a legit question

I haven't went through the other 9 pages but as they said on TV

DB said .. "my dad was a pimp and my mom worked for him"


dolphins guy said.. "was she a prostitute?"

DB said "no"


mountain out of a molehill
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That is only one spin on it , and one that has been refuted
 
GP said:
:survivor:
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As much as you would like this to be a reality game show, can't put someone out for speaking their opinion, weather you agree or don't I really don't give a dam but I have maintained my opinion while others maintain attacks against my opinion and even me as a poster.:tiphat:

nice try...
 
BullNation4Life said:
As much as you would like this to be a reality game show, can't put someone out for speaking their opinion, weather you agree or don't I really don't give a dam but I have maintained my opinion while others maintain attacks against my opinion and even me as a poster.:tiphat:

nice try...
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BullNation4Life said:
As much as you would like this to be a reality game show, can't put someone out for speaking their opinion, weather you agree or don't I really don't give a dam but I have maintained my opinion while others maintain attacks against my opinion and even me as a poster.:tiphat:

nice try...
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Seriously stop posting. Nobody cares what you think anymore.
 
Sorry, I don't care what your race, color, creed, socio-economic background OR age. Some man calls your mom a prostitute he's effectively " Pardon me sir, but could you beat me without any degree of mercy?" If I'm sitting on your jury I won't vote to convict you. The Dolphins need to fire that A-hole if he doesn't ask ALL perspective employees if their mothers had held the same vocation.
 
BullNation4Life said:
As much as you would like this to be a reality game show, can't put someone out for speaking their opinion, weather you agree or don't I really don't give a dam but I have maintained my opinion while others maintain attacks against my opinion and even me as a poster.:tiphat:

nice try...
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Ah, let me clarify what the smiley icon was for.

It was not to extinguish YOUR torch.

It was saying "The tribe has spoken" on the thread since it was silent for so long. You got irritated and thought I was signifying that we voted you out, or something. That was not my intention.

I should have put my intentions within the post. Pardon the exclusion.
 
You are claiming Free Speech when that's not even the proper definition of it. Free Speech means that you cannot be punished, by entities, for your opinions and speech (unless it violates or endangers/hurts others).

Nobody here is restricting your ability to communicate on the board.

You're just not getting the kind of acceptance of your opinion as you'd prefer. I see a possible correlation in terms of your defense of Ireland's question of Dez Bryant. You also feel that Ireland is being unfairly punished or censored for a question you deem is perfectly logical "in that scenario" he was in.

If roughly 95% of people think something is wrong, especially in THIS day and age of how split everyone is on all manner of topics, then I think it might be safe to say that your opinion is not going to be (a) understood, (b) accepted, and (c) likely to convert others to your reasoning anytime soon.
 
GP said:
You are claiming Free Speech when that's not even the proper definition of it. Free Speech means that you cannot be punished, by entities, for your opinions and speech (unless it violates or endangers/hurts others).

Nobody here is restricting your ability to communicate on the board.

You're just not getting the kind of acceptance of your opinion as you'd prefer. I see a possible correlation in terms of your defense of Ireland's question of Dez Bryant. You also feel that Ireland is being unfairly punished or censored for a question you deem is perfectly logical "in that scenario" he was in.

If roughly 95% of people think something is wrong, especially in THIS day and age of how split everyone is on all manner of topics, then I think it might be safe to say that your opinion is not going to be (a) understood, (b) accepted, and (c) likely to convert others to your reasoning anytime soon.
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Exactly! :goodpost:
 
Dread-Head said:
Sorry, I don't care what your race, color, creed, socio-economic background OR age. Some man calls your mom a prostitute he's effectively " Pardon me sir, but could you beat me without any degree of mercy?" If I'm sitting on your jury I won't vote to convict you. The Dolphins need to fire that A-hole if he doesn't ask ALL perspective employees if their mothers had held the same vocation.
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congratulations, you're a 4th grader

this thread needs closing. this story has been ****ed out more than Dez Bryant's mom. time to move on.
 
heard on the scott van pelt show she was busted for selling crack to undercovers for the second time in 2009. nice woman.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
heard on the scott van pelt show she was busted for selling crack to undercovers for the second time in 2009. nice woman.
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I think her past about drug dealing was well documented and quite easy to find. That wasn't the issue that generated this thread.
 
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