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David Carr

If this team does nothing else this year, it needs to find out what kind of QB they have in Carr and it is going to take work from both sides--Carr and the team. We need to improve the pass protection and-like wise-Carr needs to contribute to this equation with better pocket presence/management, throwing the ball away, etc. The TE problem/lack there of and wide receiver problems need to be addressed.

Our success in the coming years IMO is going to depend on our new coaching staffs. We need coaches that can see what we already have in players and what we need to get in order to run the types of offenses and defenses they want. These coaches must be excellent teachers and motivators and set high playing standards that are more than words--to play, you've got to get results. Too, these coaches need to be flexible--if it is not working, try something else, don't set everything in 'concrete.'

I want to see what kind of results Carr can get with effective coaching and I really think it has to happen sooner than later---4 yrs is a long time to go without answers. And, finally, here's hoping that everyone learns from their mistakes.:challenge
 
LCOOL said:
I agree I'm sorry of hearing excuses for cassrely golden child, a lot of Carr's teamates don't even respect him, he has no leadership skills at all.
If the Texan's do give Carr this 8 million it will be a tragedy. The Texan's fans deserve more than this, and VY has proven that he can be make it in the pro's and this is not based off of one game![/QUOTE]

Sure. VY has already PROVEN he can play in the NFL. Tell me, which NFL team has he played to already "solidify" thats he's proven he can with the NFL. Sure, he's proven he can play in college... But so did Carr.
 
Wait a second. VY won a NC, and he should be drafted right? How about this, release Carr and sign Tee Martin. He won a NC while Manning didn't. With the same talent... Let's get him!!!!:sarcasm:
 
common_fan said:
LCOOL said:
I agree I'm sorry of hearing excuses for cassrely golden child, a lot of Carr's teamates don't even respect him, he has no leadership skills at all.
If the Texan's do give Carr this 8 million it will be a tragedy. The Texan's fans deserve more than this, and VY has proven that he can be make it in the pro's and this is not based off of one game![/QUOTE]

Sure. VY has already PROVEN he can play in the NFL. Tell me, which NFL team has he played to already "solidify" thats he's proven he can with the NFL. Sure, he's proven he can play in college... But so did Carr.
How in the world has Carr proven himself, 4 years of Carr has produced nothing!
 
VY has proven he can play in college, and carr proved it as well. How do know that VY will be any better than carr...because he's from texas.
 
Grid said:
Vick was in the playoffs because of his defense. Vick helps the Falcons win, I wont deny that.. but he isnt the key to their winning.. or their losing.. he just helps things along (most of the time).

and before you say "Carr doesnt do that". He does.

and thats why we have the first overall pick i understand clearly what you are saying.:cool:
 
The OL isn't the problem The QB is the general on the field if the rush is coming to quick then hit short passes or move around with the intent to pass.All I've seen from Carr is take the ball and look at the primary receiver. if not there he will head right up field with nothing on his mind but to run.He has had four years to mature but it seems he is going the other way?Defenses are getting quicker every year and this team needs a QB that can get out of the pocket and find someone down field or underneath....THE QB is paid to MAKE things happen on the field, not throw a fit on the sidelines and complain..:challenge
 
If they reup Carr and pass on Young, they better sign Carr for 3 years. To sign Carr for 2 and pass on Young will be the sign of a franchise that has no clue since this would not be a very confident signing. I'm waiting for this little tell.
 
Carr is fine.............as the Texans QB. All the naysayers need a history lesson. See Tampa Bay in the Young/Tesdaverde days. Their numbers were horrendous. However, they were a product of the team/system. Young moves to SF and the rest is history. How did his numbers go from dismal to good?

The answer is obvious to most, but maybe it needs to be brought to the attention of some on this board. I can see it now, Carr goes to a team with a good OC/offensive philosophy, and maybe even someone known as a QB coach (all could be just average compared to what Houston has had) and he flourishes.

Luckily, the shortsighted fans calling for Carr's head don't make the decisions. Kubiak should come in, shore up the line and Carr will have an offense he can excel in. I believe the org. understands this. If for some reason, they let him go you might as well break out the burnt umber throw back jerseys.
 
CarrIsFine said:
Carr is fine.............as the Texans QB. All the naysayers need a history lesson. See Tampa Bay in the Young/Tesdaverde days. Their numbers were horrendous. However, they were a product of the team/system. Young moves to SF and the rest is history. How did his numbers go from dismal to good?

The answer is obvious to most, but maybe it needs to be brought to the attention of some on this board. I can see it now, Carr goes to a team with a good OC/offensive philosophy, and maybe even someone known as a QB coach (all could be just average compared to what Houston has had) and he flourishes.

Luckily, the shortsighted fans calling for Carr's head don't make the decisions. Kubiak should come in, shore up the line and Carr will have an offense he can excel in. I believe the org. understands this. If for some reason, they let him go you might as well break out the burnt umber throw back jerseys.
God Bless you sir.
 
CarrIsFine said:
See Tampa Bay in the Young/Tesdaverde days. Their numbers were horrendous. However, they were a product of the team/system. Young moves to SF and the rest is history. How did his numbers go from dismal to good?

To those who say Carr is never going to do anything, did you say the same thing about Young? Obviously this question is for those who were actually around during this time, like myself. I would have never predicted that Young would turn out like he did.
 
Zephyr said:
To those who say Carr is never going to do anything, did you say the same thing about Young? Obviously this question is for those who were actually around during this time, like myself. I would have never predicted that Young would turn out like he did.

I agree with the analogy and was around then but until I see it I will never think of Carr as that type of guy. I think he has too many bad habits and that he has regressed. If he changes, then it will be awesome. I'm just not sold on that guy. There alot more guys who didn't turn into a Steve Young than those who did.
 
CarrIsFine said:
Carr is fine.............as the Texans QB. All the naysayers need a history lesson. See Tampa Bay in the Young/Tesdaverde days. Their numbers were horrendous. However, they were a product of the team/system. Young moves to SF and the rest is history. How did his numbers go from dismal to good?

The answer is obvious to most, but maybe it needs to be brought to the attention of some on this board. I can see it now, Carr goes to a team with a good OC/offensive philosophy, and maybe even someone known as a QB coach (all could be just average compared to what Houston has had) and he flourishes.

Luckily, the shortsighted fans calling for Carr's head don't make the decisions. Kubiak should come in, shore up the line and Carr will have an offense he can excel in. I believe the org. understands this. If for some reason, they let him go you might as well break out the burnt umber throw back jerseys.

Yes Carr may be fine as was Young, but why should our team invest in a #1 QB to have to wait that long. The arguement is not so often about Carr, but about the prudence of developing a player at such a high price for so long. The return on investment needs to be larger than just an All-Pro Career.
 
David carr is t********VY is wortlhless, and wont amount to anything, longhorn fans need to shut up, the texans are not drafting this sorry *** quaterback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
bullman said:
David carr is t********VY is wortlhless, and wont amount to anything, longhorn fans need to shut up, the texans are not drafting this sorry *** quaterback!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ummm..ok.
 
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