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Cougars vs Sooners

Hervoyel said:
I think this is bullshit and I really wish people would stop repeating it. Tillman Fertitta is going to put as many zeros on that check as it takes to keep him here until the school gets in a serious conference. It's as simple as that. I suppose if it becomes clear that UH is consigned to purgatory forever regardless of how good they become or what kind of following they can generate at some point they'll all give up but this "gone after this year" **** is nonsense.
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Hey man like u I'm UH alumni and I really hate to even have those thoughts, but it is a reality for us as long as we remain in a have-not conference. But hopefully you're right and uncle Fertitta keeps enough zeroes on that check to keep him here.
 
Mr teX said:
Hey man like u I'm UH alumni and I really hate to even have those thoughts, but it is a reality for us as long as we remain in a have-not conference. But hopefully you're right and uncle Fertitta keeps enough zeroes on that check to keep him here.
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He'll keep him here as long as this process of trying to get into a good conference is in play. People are of course thinking "How long before Texas comes calling and writes a big check?" or "How long before A&M comes around for another Cougar HC?" but seriously, Fertitta's sitting on $2.6 billion dollars of net worth and he's got a boner for making UH legit.

If it's a pissing contest about cash he's going to be there until the end. If Herman just doesn't want to be here then no amount of money will keep him here. There's no point in worrying about it. UH is in the game. They're doing what they have to do in winning, building, recruiting like a mofo, and beating P5 asses. It's all about whether or not the Big12 or any other P5 conference will accept them. If the Cougars get in the Big12 this month is he still gone? If he's in one of the big conferences, building on a couple of huge seasons (rankings, bowl wins), starting to field players from his own good-to-great recruiting classes, and at a school that's building top-flight facilities as fast as they can and paying him whatever he needs to stay then is he still going to be leaving any minute now?

I have a hard time believing he can't feel the love right now. If things keep getting better and he's still a threat to leave then there's nothing anyone could do about it. Coaches leave programs all the time and bigger ones than UH certainly.

I'm just loving it while we got it.
 
Houston needs to build Tom Herman a diamond mansion with a lean fountain and 24/7 access to Bun B.
 
From the game:

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Cougars' Tom Herman to get $5M if school joins Power 5 conference

Houston Cougars coach Tom Herman will receive a $5 million bonus if Houston ever joins a Power 5 conference, athletic director Hunter Yurachek told reporters at halftime of Saturday's 33-23 upset victory against Oklahoma in NRG Stadium.

"We want him to be our coach for the very long term," Yurachek said. "It was a special memo between Coach Herman and myself. It's not officially in his contract, but I'd be glad to share it with you. It is legally binding. It's a memo from myself to coach Herman. The university will honor that. It's got my signature and his signature as employees of the University of Houston."

Houston has openly campaigned to join the Big 12, and it got off to a competitive start with its win Saturday.
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Really enjoy the open aggressiveness here by Yurachek.
 
EllisUnit said:
If we go to the Big 12 next season i think he stays, if not i see him going to a power conference.
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Well if he does it won't be because the check was too small or the school didn't do whatever it could to try and keep him.

Why dwell on it?
 
Glad for the UH win but some of the folks out there need to calm their tits. I'm glad UH won but let's not get ahead of ourselves...we have a long season ahead. With this being said, so long as UH can build a better campus, strong academics, and safe college environment (given that we're in 3rd Ward) it will give us a chance to truly turn UH into another top tier school in the state which will hand-in-hand impact athletics.

Good article about Tom Herman and his time at Rice which I was not aware of: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...g-money-prestige-to-build-unlikely-powerhouse
 
The UH campus has exploded with growth over the past decade. The athletic facilities are now more Big 12 than some of the current Big 12 schools.

Academics have grown exponentially over the years.

But I agree, this was just one win. There's still a long season ahead.
 
bah007 said:
OU is coming into the season very overrated. They are ranked #3 because they are returning a stud QB and two RBs. But they lost a ton on defense and their secondary is the weak link on the team in a conference where everybody throws.
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bah007 said:
Preseason rankings are the worst thing about this sport. They are very often totally wrong and it taints the rankings that really matter later down the road.
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Ah the eternal question. Is it that UH played really well, or is OU overrated. I am not interested in making excuses for a team full of 5 star talent with a vet QB. OU got outplayed & out-coached.

You cant say that OU is overrated, and then turn around and tell me that pre-season rankings are the worst and totally wrong, as you appear to be ranking them off one game vs a very good UH squad. OU went 11-2 last season losing to Texas and Clemson. They returned 7 starters on offense and 7 on defense.

I guess the narrative just gets old when you hear it every-time UH lines up against the "big boys." FSU not interested. OU overrated. Lets just see how well OU navigates their season and make our conclusions from there. Same with UH.

Back to football. I also attended the game and had a great time. The UH crowd was fantastic and appeared to be roughly a 70/30 split UH vs OU fan. It was very tight in the first half, but UH came out with a game-plan and executed the 2nd half really taking control. I found it interesting that OU ended up with 70 rushing yards and I heard that 61 were from the opening drive.

Lastly I have been hearing talking heads discuss UH running the table and that they should get in the CFP. I could not believe it. We are 1 freaking game into the season and already people are discussing the CFP? What a country...
 
Blake said:
Ah the eternal question. Is it that UH played really well, or is OU overrated. I am not interested in making excuses for a team full of 5 star talent with a vet QB. OU got outplayed & out-coached.

You cant say that OU is overrated, and then turn around and tell me that pre-season rankings are the worst and totally wrong, as you appear to be ranking them off one game vs a very good UH squad. OU went 11-2 last season losing to Texas and Clemson. They returned 7 starters on offense and 7 on defense.

I guess the narrative just gets old when you hear it every-time UH lines up against the "big boys." FSU not interested. OU overrated. Lets just see how well OU navigates their season and make our conclusions from there. Same with UH.

Back to football. I also attended the game and had a great time. The UH crowd was fantastic and appeared to be roughly a 70/30 split UH vs OU fan. It was very tight in the first half, but UH came out with a game-plan and executed the 2nd half really taking control. I found it interesting that OU ended up with 70 rushing yards and I heard that 61 were from the opening drive.

Lastly I have been hearing talking heads discuss UH running the table and that they should get in the CFP. I could not believe it. We are 1 freaking game into the season and already people are discussing the CFP? What a country...
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I have a confession....
Saturday afternoon, around 5:00, I was heading west on Beltway 8, and passed a guy in a OU-red Chevy Malibu with personalized OU plates. He screwed up and made eye contact with me and I grinned at him and flashed the three-finger Coogs claw. For some reason he didn't seem happy.

Too soon?
:D
 
Blake said:
Ah the eternal question. Is it that UH played really well, or is OU overrated. I am not interested in making excuses for a team full of 5 star talent with a vet QB. OU got outplayed & out-coached.

You cant say that OU is overrated, and then turn around and tell me that pre-season rankings are the worst and totally wrong, as you appear to be ranking them off one game vs a very good UH squad. OU went 11-2 last season losing to Texas and Clemson. They returned 7 starters on offense and 7 on defense.

I guess the narrative just gets old when you hear it every-time UH lines up against the "big boys." FSU not interested. OU overrated. Lets just see how well OU navigates their season and make our conclusions from there. Same with UH.

Back to football. I also attended the game and had a great time. The UH crowd was fantastic and appeared to be roughly a 70/30 split UH vs OU fan. It was very tight in the first half, but UH came out with a game-plan and executed the 2nd half really taking control. I found it interesting that OU ended up with 70 rushing yards and I heard that 61 were from the opening drive.

Lastly I have been hearing talking heads discuss UH running the table and that they should get in the CFP. I could not believe it. We are 1 freaking game into the season and already people are discussing the CFP? What a country...
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After the weekend your school just had I'm not sure why you're so fired up at me. You are free to re-read what I wrote and respond but that essay that you wrote in response to me has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

Oklahoma did get outplayed and they did get out coached. Not sure where I said otherwise. I do believe that OU is overrated. Even before the game I don't see anyway they are a top five team. They are weak on the OL and DL and their DBs are not good at all. Not a good combo for the schedule they have to play this year. People ranked OU super high because they were so blinded by Mayfield, Perine, and Mixon that they didn't look at the rest of the roster.

I think preseason rankings taint the season. You create an arbitrary ranking for this year's teams based off of last year's teams. Nobody has the same exact team this year that they had last year. You've all lost different pieces and brought new pieces in, changed coaching staffs, etc. Personally, I think it's ridiculous to have any rankings at all before about week 6. There just isn't enough information out there yet.

I'm not sure why you quoted the posts that you did. Neither said a single word about UH. I was totally impressed by the victory. In fact, I readily admit that UH would likely steamroll my Longhorns. It would be a massacre. If I were forced to make a poll after week 1 I would have UH in the top four with Alabama, Michigan, and Ohio St. But you couldn't have known that, because you attacked me for my view on UH before I had even made it known.

Maybe you should actually read what people write and use logic to decipher it and form a response instead of letting your emotions move the fingers on that keyboard.
 
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bah007 said:
After the weekend your school just had I'm not sure why you're so fired up at me. You are free to re-read what I wrote and respond but that essay that you wrote in response to me has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

Oklahoma did get outplayed and they did get out coached. Not sure where I said otherwise. I do believe that OU is overrated. Even before the game I don't see anyway they are a top five team. They are weak on the OL and DL and their DBs are not good at all. Not a good combo for the schedule they have to play this year. People ranked OU super high because they were so blinded by Mayfield, Perine, and Mixon that they didn't look at the rest of the roster.

I think preseason rankings taint the season. You create an arbitrary ranking for this year's teams based off of last year's teams. Nobody has the same exact team this year that they had last year. You've all lost different pieces and brought new pieces in, changed coaching staffs, etc. Personally, I think it's ridiculous to have any rankings at all before about week 6. There just isn't enough information out there yet.
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I think so too. Then again I also think that teams that schedule FCS schools should be deducted points or something off their rankings/standings.

Good win by UH. Though I get where Blake is coming from. Just means UH get's to carry that chip on their shoulder and go around proving people wrong all season.
 
Mollywhopper said:
They essentially are once talk of playoff teams starts.
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I seem to remember Alabama scheduling the University of Submersible Basket Weaving (a little known but powerhouse program -joking-) late last year. Didn't have an impact at all on their access to the playoffs. Actually they had three cupcakes: Middle Tennessee, Univ. Louisiana Monroe, and Charleston Southern (the basket weaving school). Think it's ridiculous where 1/4 of a teams schedule is made up of such teams. However, it's allowed under the currents system. So teams will use it to their advantage. I don't think it counts against the bigger schools as much as it does against schools trying to crack the top tier.

BTW I just used Alabama as an example, I know plenty of other schools schedule gimme games too.
 
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I seem to remember Alabama scheduling the University of Submersible Basket Weaving (a little known but powerhouse program -joking-) late last year. Didn't have an impact at all on their access to the playoffs. Actually they had three cupcakes: Middle Tennessee, Univ. Louisiana Monroe, and Charleston Southern (the basket weaving school). Think it's ridiculous where 1/4 of a teams schedule is made up of such teams. However, it's allowed under the currents system. So teams will use it to their advantage. I don't think it counts against the bigger schools as much as it does against schools trying to crack the top tier.

BTW I just used Alabama as an example, I know plenty of other schools schedule gimme games too.
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That's fair, but Bama also played a grinding conference schedule. Where it penalized a school was Baylor or TCU who scheduled cupcakes out of conference and then didn't have near the same road through the Big 12 that Bama did the SEC.

We're also seeing that strength of schedule consideration affect early season scheduling this season where so much of the top 25 opened up against themselves instead of the traditional opening weekend buffet of powerhouses vs the Eastern Roast Beef Techs of the country.

Just saying, I agree teams should be penalized for playing a week schedule, but the sum of the schedule is also taken into account and not just out of conference. And again I think that's played into getting the hot week 1 we just got.
 
bah007 said:
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Dont take any offense to it. Only a couple lines were in response to you. The others were just in general speaking. I probably could have done a better job of splitting them into a separate post, but just threw it all in there at the same time.

But do you not see how you are speaking out both sides of your mouth with the 2 posts I linked? You say pre-season rankings are essentially worthless. Then you go on about why OU is overrated and should be ranked lower based up X Y and Z. So just thinking out loud here, aren't you ranking them before the season has been played out? Exactly what you say is essentially worthless?
 
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gwallaia said:
UH at #6 in the AP and #7 in the coaches poll this week.
But its all about going 1-0 every week.
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I'm shocked. Didn't think they'd break the top 10.

If they go undefeated how are they going to drop out of the top 10? It's going to be interesting to watch.
 
Texan4Ever said:
Glad for the UH win but some of the folks out there need to calm their tits. I'm glad UH won but let's not get ahead of ourselves...we have a long season ahead. With this being said, so long as UH can build a better campus, strong academics, and safe college environment (given that we're in 3rd Ward) it will give us a chance to truly turn UH into another top tier school in the state which will hand-in-hand impact athletics.

Good article about Tom Herman and his time at Rice which I was not aware of: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...g-money-prestige-to-build-unlikely-powerhouse
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Of course there's a long season ahead, but doesn't mean you get cant excited about what just happened Saturday.
 
ObsiWan said:
I have a confession....
Saturday afternoon, around 5:00, I was heading west on Beltway 8, and passed a guy in a OU-red Chevy Malibu with personalized OU plates. He screwed up and made eye contact with me and I grinned at him and flashed the three-finger Coogs claw. For some reason he didn't seem happy.

Too soon?
:D
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LMAO. We were heading to the casino as the game ended, passed an OU red colored truck with OU plates and a big sticker on back window. I shot him a Coogs claw and he flipped me off and smiled. It was classic.
 
Blake said:
Dont take any offense to it. Only a couple lines were in response to you. The others were just in general speaking. I probably could have done a better job of splitting them into a separate post, but just threw it all in there at the same time.

But do you not see how you are speaking out both sides of your mouth with the 2 posts I linked? You say pre-season rankings are essentially worthless. Then you go on about why OU is overrated and should be ranked lower based up X Y and Z. So just thinking out loud here, aren't you ranking them before the season has been played out? Exactly what you say is essentially worthless?
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I didn't say that you couldn't have opinions about teams. Of course you can. What I don't like is creating an arbitrary ranking based on that information. Your initial ranking in the preseason has a lot to do with how you will be ranked as the year goes on. I think that is a huge flaw with the system. Those rankings mean something. They determine who goes to the playoffs at the end of the year. The initial rankings should not come out until there is more information. My opinion of Oklahoma does not have the same impact on the college football landscape that their ranking in the national poll that determines the playoffs does.

I never said where Oklahoma should be ranked. All I said was that the people who had a super high opinion of them were overlooking some very important factors because they were blinded by the flash of their offensive skill players.
 
I cannot believe this thread hasn't talked more about Ed Oliver. That kid is the damn truth and a big reason why everybody is saying OU's offensive line is bad. Whether OU is overrated or not, I am now fully rooting for them to not lose another game, same as UH.

I really hope Louisville stays ranked as well. Petrino vs Herman is going to be a great matchup.
 
WolverineFan said:
I think Louisville is going to be the best team UH plays this year, not Oklahoma. That game is going to be a dog fight.
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Louisville appears to be a well-rounded team, although I can't say I know a ton about the team. I only know a little bit from last year and highlights of game 1. That QB is in for a wake up call once he gets into the ACC schedule + Houston.
 
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