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Combine Coverage

So Derrick Johnson posted a 5.54 forty which is faster than alot of the wide recievers.....

I actually expect him to run a sub 5.5 when he gets back to texas.
 
ComstockLode said:
So Derrick Johnson posted a 5.54 forty which is faster than alot of the wide recievers.....

I actually expect him to run a sub 5.5 when he gets back to texas.
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Do you mean 4.54? DJ seems very fast, and 5.55 seems a little slow for him in the 40.
 
ESPN reports that DJ stole the show at the combine today.

CBs: Also noted that Browner really hurt himself, probably falling out of the first round. Marlin Jackson turned in a slow set of 40s and may drop. Justin Miller and Carlos Rogers did OK with mid 4.4 times, but Miller was a little slower than expected.

Demarcus Ware impressed as a pass-rushing linebacker. ESPN flatly states Thomas Davis can't play safety in the NFL and will become a linebacker.
 
I've been saying that Davis and Shazor are likely linebackers in the NFL for months. Browner had 17 holding/interference calls against him last year with zero INT's also. I was never that high on him.

Some opponents stayed away from Browner this season, but others took advantage of his physical style and went directly at him: He was penalized 17 times for holding or pass interference. He had 41 tackles and broke up nine passes but had no interceptions.

http://www.oregonlive.com/beaversfootball/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/110510298255450.xml
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Demarcus Ware is beginning to sound verrrrrrrrrry interesting! 6040 251 4.56 compared to DJ's 6032 242 4.54 just a little bigger version maybe better suited to play OLB in the 3-4?
 
Sarg01 said:
ESPN flatly states Thomas Davis can't play safety in the NFL and will become a linebacker.
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It's very possible he could play linebacker, but not because he is a bad safety. He could play linebacker because of his size and the fact that he is flat out a great football player. People saying he projects as a linebacker is a compliment to his versatility as a football player.

I wonder how many Georgia games this ESPN analyst watched the last three years? :hmmm:
 
Vinny said:
Browner had 17 holding/interference calls against him last year with zero INT's also. I was never that high on him.
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Imagine how many flags that would have been if college refs called it like the pros.
 
texasguy346 said:
Do you mean 4.54? DJ seems very fast, and 5.55 seems a little slow for him in the 40.
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My fault I obviously meant 4.54. According to other sources who were timing him earlier in the week, he ran some sub 4.5 forties. I am willing to bet at the texas day, he will run a sub 4.5 forty.

He came in at 6'3" 242.... and might run a sub 4.5 forty.... Mancrush.
 
infantrycak said:
As an FYI to the Thomas Davis bandwagon, he turned in a 4.65 40 yd time at the combine.

Link

As a reminder Babin turned in a 4.64 last year.

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nice, I liked this quote "Mel Kiper has him as a late first-rounder, although I think that’s a little high for him, based on what I saw. But if you are looking for an aggressive edge rusher, who has the ability to consistently get to the passer, then Babin could be the guy. Health-wise he’s clear, although he does have some asthma issues. He reminds me a lot of current Patriots linebacker, Mike Vrabel, who was also a tremendous edge rusher in college at Ohio State, leaving Columbus with 33 career takedowns."


what about this Demarcus Ware fellow as a 2nd round OLB for the Texans? 6'-4", 251 lbs with 4.56 speed. here is something similar from NFL Draft Blitz

"Ware lacks great size and may be better off switching to linebacker at the next level. He can hold the point of attack against the run, but he gets tied up with blockers too easily and gets neutralized on too many plays. It’s more than likely that Ware will have to play the rush ‘backer spot in a 3-4, or be a situational rusher in a 4-3 in order to maximize his potential. In summary, Ware might not be a player who will interest all NFL teams, but a team that uses him correctly could very well get a huge return on their investment. Ware currently carries a late day one/early day two grade."
 
I love Ware, but I don't think he'd last long enough for the Texans to pick him up in the second. If he's there at 32 I think the Patriots would have a hard time passing him up.
 
infantrycak said:
As an FYI to the Thomas Davis bandwagon, he turned in a 4.65 40 yd time at the combine.
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Just an FYI, the numers for Davis and all others are unofficial. But I'm sure you already knew that. I'll wait until the NFL officially releases the results before I start throwing numbers out.

BTW, didn't Charley Casserly say that 40 times are overrated.

:rolleyes:
 
They are but in the NFL Safetys need to be able to cover in man. You won't find too many 4.65 slot receivers.
 
:woot A 4.65 at the combine on Astro turf is a 4.7 at best on grass . If he has a good track record as being a player I might look at him but not at 13 .
 
Vinny said:
They are but in the NFL Safetys need to be able to cover in man. You won't find too many 4.65 slot receivers.
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I have seen numbers from 4.53 to 4.65 for Davis at the Combine. Davis and Earl have the same speed basically, so if Davis is too slow then so is Earl. After watching Davis for three years, I have confidence in his ability. But then maybe I should trust some internet draft guy rather than my own eyes and judgement. Davis is my favorite player in the draft, but whoever we draft will be fine with me.
 
Honoring Earl 34 said:
:woot A 4.65 at the combine on Astro turf is a 4.7 at best on grass . He can race Castillo .
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NFL Network reported that DJ ran a 4.65 in the 40. Like I said though, they're all unofficial.
 
40 times are overhyped. They always have, and always will be. But I didnt know a players 40 time, represented how well he can play the game of football.
 
wags said:
I have seen numbers from 4.53 to 4.65 for Davis at the Combine. Davis and Earl have the same speed basically, so if Davis is too slow then so is Earl. After watching Davis for three years, I have confidence in his ability. But then maybe I should trust some internet draft guy rather than my own eyes and judgement. Davis is my favorite player in the draft, but whoever we draft will be fine with me.
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I'm not judging or grading Davis...I'm just mentioning that S's have more coverage responsiblity than ever with the new rules is really all I am implying. I still feel that he is the ideal tampa2 linebacker. We will see who is right soon.
 
Vinny said:
We will see who is right soon.
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What does that mean? Just because he is drafted as a LB, doesn't mean he's a bad safety. He's a great football player who can play multiple positions. When did this turn into a "I bet he's used as a ____" debate.
 
Your arument is that he is a viable NFL safety and I think that he will likely be taken as a tampa2 linebacker from what I can see.
 
Vinny said:
Your arument is that he is a viable NFL safety and I think that he will likely be taken as a tampa2 linebacker from what I can see.
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I still don't understand the "right" comment. He will make an impact wherever he plays, LB or safety.
 
wags said:
What does that mean? Just because he is drafted as a LB, doesn't mean he's a bad safety. He's a great football player who can play multiple positions. When did this turn into a "I bet he's used as a ____" debate.
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I tend to agree with Wags. Just because he's drafted as a LB by say St Louis doesn't mean he couldn't be an equally good S for some other team. Not all teams demand the same coverage ability from their SS. They may have a LB that's excellent in coveraged, and prefer to use their SS as a run stopper. I think whatever team drafts him will play a major role in deciding what he plays in the NFL. Doesn't mean he can't play one position better than the other.
 
:woot What keeps a good college player from being a good NFL player ? I don't think Wags would be so passionate is Davis went to Ol Miss .
 
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Combine recap Kinda interesting they have a Pollack video and no other individual player named on this page. :hmmm:
Combine grind
Indianapolis has survived yet another scouting combine and we take a look back at an eventful week for the Texans and their NFL peers. Next up? A slew of visits to college campuses, where prospects will be holding their pro days.

More players working out
Combine position profiles: DBs | LBs | WRs | QBs | DL
Capers | WRs | QBs | DL | Pollack | Indy
Combine photos: 2/27 | 2/26 | 2/25
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I am a Georgia alum and I admit that I am a bit biased when it comes to UGA players or even SEC players for that matter. But Big 12 fans can be biased too. Just as you Longhorn fans would like to see DJ suit up for the Texans on Sunday, I would definitely love to see David Pollack suiting up for the Texans in 2005. He had a good performance at the combine and his college career was outstanding. He plays with so much enthusiasm and intensity. However, it isn't going to happen. With the free agent signing of Greenwood, I doubt the Texans will pick a linebacker in the first round. Of course it depends on who is still on the board when it comes to the 13th pick, but I suspect we will pick a cornerback.
 
Greenwood is going to play inside. Pollack would project to the outside. It would not surprise me to see us take another linebacker now that the Texans have also allowed Sharper and Foreman to seek trades. They are both in their final years of their contracts and no way we pay Foreman the kind of cash he is scheduled to make next year. This LB corp looks like its getting the shake down here in the next two years.

This is going to be a much more interesting off season that I originally figured. :popcorn:
 
That is interesting about Sharper and Foreman. I did not know that the Texans had allowed them to seek trades. That changes everything completely. However, their roster spots could still be filled by Babin and Peek on the outside and Wong and Greenwood on the inside. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the Texans pick DJ or try a DE such as Pollack at the outside, but with the current depth at linebacker will it happen? I don't know. I guess it all depends on the confidence the Texans have with Peek. I agree with McClain, if the Texans REALLY had confidence in Peek, he would have seen more playing time to learn in 2004 like Babin did. So, I guess maybe they could look at linebacker if the talent is there at 13. It will be the most interesting draft day since we really have no idea who they will pick.
 
I almost forgot . . . How long will I be on the "Practice Squad"? I am new to the the Message Board. How does this work? Will I be optioned off to NFL Europe this Summer to prove myself worthy of 3rd string player / clipboard holder?
 
50 posts...but we support custom user titles. :cool:

At least the team is giving us alot to talk about. I think we are all in the dark. Hopefully Sharper just reworks his deal.
At 6'0" and 238 pounds, it is believed that Greenwood would move to inside linebacker, joining Jamie Sharper and Jay Foreman, and maybe even pushing them out. According to a televised report on KRIV-TV, both Sharper and Foreman were notified that they would each be allowed to seek a trade and a new contract with another team if they could not reach modified deals with the Texans.

Sharper, 30, is in the final year of a contract that will pay him $4.75 million and has a $6.125 million charge on the 2005 cap. If traded, the Texans would still reflect the remaining signing bonus amount of $1.375 million on the cap this year.
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http://www.houstonprofootball.com/
 
I read that Pollack didn't have a good combine. They also knocked him because he has short, small arms which make it difficult to get around NFL caliber tackles. He also didn't run a good 40 time. I don't think the Texans will take him.
 
:mag: Miami and Missouri had their pro days . Rolle ran a 4.49 and a 4.52 40 yd. Casserly adds .01 secs for a pro day run . Vinny I don't know how to post this info.
 
I have seen it written by several Texans fans that Pollack did not have a good combine. I don't know on what this poor opinion is based, but I disagree. When I watched the combine on NFL Network I saw that Pollack ranked first in the several of the areas evaluated (swim right pass rushmove and a couple of the cone drills). I agree that his time in the 40 yard dash did not overly impress, but his times were comparable to those of Babin last year at the combine. As I recall, Pollack was registered at the combine as just over 6'2" and 256 lbs. According to the Texans website, Babin is 6'2" and 259 lbs. I agree that it was pointed out at the combine that Pollack did have a somewhat short armspan. However, I think that if the Texans pass on Pollack, it will be because there is a better player on the board or because linbacker isn't a primary area of interest. It won't be because it is perceived that he performed poorly at the combine.
 
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