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Colts plan on firing Chuck Pagano after season ***UPDATE: Pagano signed to a 4 year deal***

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INDIANAPOLIS -- Short of an unexpected playoff berth, the Indianapolis Coltsdo not plan to retain coach Chuck Pagano at the end of the season, while general manager Ryan Grigson will at least help in the coaching search, league sources told ESPN.com.

The consensus has been that Pagano would not be return next season after he turned down a contract extension, the Colts' struggles this season and his "toxic" relationship with Grigson.

Grigson helping to find Pagano's replacement does not guarantee that he'll be the Colts' general manager next season, according to sources. Grigson will not return if the new coach has his own general manager preference, according to sources. Owner Jim Irsay will also be heavily involved in the coaching search.

The Colts entered the season with Super Bowl aspirations after reaching the AFC Championship game last season, but they have their worst record (7-8) since 2011 and they're on the brink of missing the playoffs for the first time since Grigson and Pagano were hired in 2012.

The Pagano and Grigson relationship has been described to ESPN.com as being "100 times worse" than the team's poor play on the field. The two barely communicate with each other, multiple sources said.



http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...lan-firing-head-coach-chuck-pagano-end-season
 
Can't help but laugh at Andre and the mess he got himself into. He will be looking for another job next season. Instead of his 2nd ring. Since he thought luck was going to deliver his 1st.
 
texan279 said:
Grigson helping to find Pagano's replacement does not guarantee that he'll be the Colts' general manager next season, according to sources. Grigson will not return if the new coach has his own general manager preference, according to sources. Owner Jim Irsay will also be heavily involved in the coaching search.
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Grigson: "You really wow'ed us in the interview. I think you're perfect for this organization. Congratulations. You're hired."
Coach: "Thanks! You're fired."
 
Total dysfunction.

Grigson is painted as micromanager who undermined Pagano
Posted by Mike Florio on December 31, 2015, 6:41 PM EST

With the Colts reportedly poised to fire coach Chuck Pagano, Bob Kravitz of WTHR.com paints a picture that points a finger at G.M. Ryan Grigson for a culture of dysfunction in Indianapolis.

“Grigson is significantly more involved in the coaching area than [Bill] Polian ever was,” Kravitz writes. “Sources tell me Grigson not only dictated who would and would not play, but undermined Pagano when he wanted to discipline certain players.”

Kravitz then shares several specific examples from the Grigson-Pagano years, an array of information from unnamed sources that clearly traces to Pagano and members of his staff who are about to be dropped after failing to get more out of a roster littered with bad draft picks and misguided free-agency decisions made by Grigson.

First, Kravitz writes that, after trading for running back Trent Richardson in 2013, Grigson continued to insist that Richardson play, even though he wasn’t playing very well. “According to sources, Grigson was concerned with creating the narrative that it was a good trade,” Kravitz says.

Second, Kravitz reports that Grigson insisted on the use of punt returner Josh Cribbs last year, against the desires of Pagano and several members of his staff.

Third, Kravitz explains that Grigson kept Pagano from disciplining certain players he wanted to discipline.

Fourth, Kravitz says that Grigson forced former offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton on Pagano. “Pep was never answerable to Chuck. Pep answered to Ryan, and everybody in the building knew it,” Kravitz said, citing an unnamed source.

As a result of those and other factors — including the presentation to Pagano of a one-year extension in the offseason that Pagano found unacceptable — Pagano and Grigson has virtually no relationship, according to Kravitz.

At a time when some think Grigson’s relationship with owner Jim Irsay will help Grigson return for the fifth year of his original contract (and possibly beyond), Kravitz writes that Grigson’s employment could hinge on the wishes of a new coach. If nothing else, the information dump directed to Kravitz will ensure that any coach with options will opt not to come to Indianapolis as long as Grigson remains employed there.
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I could see Pagano landing in Philly. Todd Haley might be a good choice in Indy.
 
Just read on Twitter Pagano signed an extension and will return to Colts next season, Grigson will be back also.
 
htowntexans1985 said:
Lol. The dumpster fire continues.
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I'm happy for Pagano..........don't think he was the major part of the problem.............Luck may have gotten Irsay's ear early in the morning when he might have been more lucid and before he starting drinking. But as soon as Irsay starts drinking, you can be assured that Grigson will be right there to keep pouring......and the stench will keep spreading.
 
I just read on another board that Pagano has been extended along with Grigson.

Hopefully their rocky relationship continues.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I'm happy for Pagano..........don't think he was the major part of the problem.............Luck may have gotten Irsay's ear early in the morning when he might have been more lucid and before he starting drinking. But as soon as Irsay starts drinking, you can be assured that Grigson will be right there to keep pouring......and the stench will keep spreading.
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I was kind of hoping that they'd let Pagano go and he landed in SF - way the hell out of our division.
and then Irsay hires Chip Kelly and let him hully-gully with Grigson for who sets the drafts
:D

yeah, I put a link there because some of you younguns (and "yankees") might not be familiar with that term
 
ObsiWan said:
I was kind of hoping that they'd let Pagano go and he landed in SF - way the hell out of our division.
and then Irsay hires Chip Kelly and let him hully-gully with Grigson for who sets the drafts
:D

yeah, I put a link there because some of you younguns (and "yankees") might not be familiar with that term
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Or maybe they could Rochambeau for each pick.
 
According to an NFL source, the Colts were negotiating with Sean Payton reps while Pagano talks were also happening. Talks broke down.

Lmao!!!!!! Ol Irsay tried to pull a fast one. That press conference was awkward and looked forced. Grigson didn't look happy at all.
 
As long as Grigson is around and presumably running the draft and free agency, there is reason to believe the Colts will continue to only go as far as Andrew Luck can take them. Since Luck isn't going anywhere, that's about the best we could hope for.
 
htowntexans1985 said:
According to an NFL source, the Colts were negotiating with Sean Payton reps while Pagano talks were also happening. Talks broke down.

Lmao!!!!!! Ol Irsay tried to pull a fast one. That press conference was awkward and looked forced. Grigson didn't look happy at all.
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It was a really bizarre press conference, almost like they were trying to convince themselves that it was a good decision. And with the way Irsay ended it, basically chastising the media for reporting that his HC was being bullied by his GM, it really led me to believe that the media was right all along and money is the only thing keeping this 'team' together.

I say good for us! I hope to see the Colts crash and burn for several seasons. I really hate that franchise.
 
Not only has Grigson proven to be incompetent at his job but I'm not even sure how he landed the gig in the first place. Anybody else watch that press conference? The guy looks and talks like a truck driver. He also comes off as a complete prick. There is nothing about him that screams corporate suck up or football genius. He just seems like a dude the Colts hired off his couch.
 
WolverineFan said:
Not only has Grigson proven to be incompetent at his job but I'm not even sure how he landed the gig in the first place. Anybody else watch that press conference? The guy looks and talks like a truck driver. He also comes off as a complete prick. There is nothing about him that screams corporate suck up or football genius. He just seems like a dude the Colts hired off his couch.
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Irsay's connection....
 
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