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Charlie Strong to be FIRED!

CollegeFootball 24/7 ‏@NFL_CFB 4m4 minutes ago


Report: Texas to fire head coach Charlie Strong http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000743335/article/report-texas-to-fire-head-coach-charlie-strong…

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Charlie Strong will NOT be fired!!!
 
It's not that I dislike Charlie Strong as a person or hate his coaching/handling of the team
what I dislike? is that in a conference where the demands are higher, He just hasn't shown
he is ready for that stage just yet. Which is why? I am hoping they just pull the plug now
and end this misery. The sooner we move past this, The better the benefit for the program
itself

just my 2 cents
 
TexasCowboy said:
It's not that I dislike Charlie Strong as a person or hate his coaching/handling of the team
what I dislike? is that in a conference where the demands are higher, He just hasn't shown
he is ready for that stage just yet. Which is why? I am hoping they just pull the plug now
and end this misery. The sooner we move past this, The better the benefit for the program
itself

just my 2 cents
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My 2 cents

Much of Charlie's problems were the result of the University of Texas itself.
 
Apparently several Longhorn players are considering boycotting this week’s regular-season finale against TCU. WTF? You want Charlie Strong to remain as Head Coach? Go out and beat the 1-9 JayHawks.
 
WolverineFan said:
There were definitely some issues but his loyalty to assistants like Watson and Bedford are just as much to blame.
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I just thought that UT nickle and dimed Charlie from the get go and only last year coughed up the money to allow him to hire coaches he really wanted. This all started with Patterson who is now gone. This has been a real Fluster Cuck.
 
TexasCowboy said:
Charlie Strong doesn't dictate what the coaches should be paid per year. so this fails to provide me
with the info I need...please try again
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There lies the problem. When 3 different 2nd tier coordinators turn down a school like Texas because they will only offer 1 year contracts there is a problem. All I can tell you is your top programs and top coaches do not have that problem. Trust me when I tell you that Nick Saban, Jimbo Fisher, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbagh, Dabo Sweeney all have Carte Blanche when it comes to their respective football operations. I can assure you that none of these coaches lost out on assistant coaches because of salary amounts and contract disputes.
 
Texian said:
There lies the problem. When 3 different 2nd tier coordinators turn down a school like Texas because they will only offer 1 year contracts there is a problem. All I can tell you is your top programs and top coaches do not have that problem. Trust me when I tell you that Nick Saban, Jimbo Fisher, Urban Meyer, Jim Harbagh, Dabo Sweeney all have Carte Blanche when it comes to their respective football operations. I can assure you that none of these coaches lost out on assistant coaches because of salary amounts and contract disputes.
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I agree Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU, Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Florida, Miami
and others offer what Texas has failed to do? so this comes down to recruiting
not the athletic director failing to pay coaches
 
TexasCowboy said:
I agree Notre Dame, Ohio State, LSU, Alabama, USC, Oklahoma, Florida, Miami
and others offer what Texas has failed to do? so this comes down to recruiting
not the athletic director failing to pay coaches
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All the schools mentioned by you and me having bigger budgets to hire the better recruiters/coaches. If Texas can't afford to hire top notch assistant coaches what makes you think Texas can put together a top notch recruiting program?
 
During LSU vs A&M game this evening it was reported Cougar coach Herman will accept contract to coach LSU. UT (athletic director IIRC) allegedly saying he preferred to keep Strong.
 
badboy said:
During LSU vs A&M game this evening it was reported Cougar coach Herman will accept contract to coach LSU. UT (athletic director IIRC) allegedly saying he preferred to keep Strong.
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Not saying it won't happen, but ESPN?? They should be called MSESPN.
 
Texian said:
All the schools mentioned by you and me having bigger budgets to hire the better recruiters/coaches. If Texas can't afford to hire top notch assistant coaches what makes you think Texas can put together a top notch recruiting program?
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See the bigger picture here - budgets, failure to quote "Hire" better coaches isn't the issue here...the issue is
recruiting? defensively they are a mess, can't tackle, force turnovers, yet, Offensively they can score many points
while still managing to lose games

this is where Strong is at fault his recruiting just isn't up to the standards of the Big 12, he's not capable
of getting the best talent away from the top schools. Call it there ability to offer degrees in areas where
UT can't or? They feel there is a better shot at the NFL via another school

Either way, Strong and the Big 12 simply don't mix! so he doesn't deserve another year IMO
 
TexasCowboy said:
See the bigger picture here - budgets, failure to quote "Hire" better coaches isn't the issue here...the issue is
recruiting? defensively they are a mess, can't tackle, force turnovers, yet, Offensively they can score many points
while still managing to lose games

this is where Strong is at fault his recruiting just isn't up to the standards of the Big 12, he's not capable
of getting the best talent away from the top schools. Call it there ability to offer degrees in areas where
UT can't or? They feel there is a better shot at the NFL via another school

Either way, Strong and the Big 12 simply don't mix! so he doesn't deserve another year IMO
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Lol you're lack of knowledge clearly isn't limited to the NFL.

Recruiting is just fine. The issue is the Texas assistant coaches aren't doing their jobs. That falls on Strong. He hired them. But his recruiting is not an issue. They are loaded with athletes.

The defense has improved very much as the season has gone on. The offense is the unit not pulling its weight.

In conference play the Texas offense is #9 out of 10 teams in points, #8 on third downs, #9 in turnovers, and #9 in the red zone.

On defense they are #6 in points (only 2 ppg away from #2), #2 in sacks, #2 on third downs, #1 in turnovers, and #5 in the red zone.

So you say they can't force turnovers on defense and the offense scores a lot of points? They literally do the opposite of those two things.
 
I'm the one with a lack of rotflmgdmfao? Texas defensively gives up 31.5 points per game
currently ranked 94th out of 128, offensively they score 34 points per game, which
is currently ranked 39th..9 int's, 13 forced fumbles

yet here's the reality? currently 5-6 haven't won a Big 12 title? since Mack Brown
and are on the edge of failing to even make a potential bowl game..Even if by some
miracle of miracles they manage to beat TCU today (not happening) Yet we are to
believe the BS spewing out that sewer hole you call a mouth that the defense is
better? please go away you've just committed the ultimate suicide stupidity has
to offer
 
TexasCowboy said:
I'm the one with a lack of rotflmgdmfao? Texas defensively gives up 31.5 points per game
currently ranked 94th out of 128, offensively they score 34 points per game, which
is currently ranked 39th..9 int's, 13 forced fumbles

yet here's the reality? currently 5-6 haven't won a Big 12 title? since Mack Brown
and are on the edge of failing to even make a potential bowl game..Even if by some
miracle of miracles they manage to beat TCU today (not happening) Yet we are to
believe the BS spewing out that sewer hole you call a mouth that the defense is
better? please go away you've just committed the ultimate suicide stupidity has
to offer
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In UT's last 3 losses they've given up 24 ppg and forced 9 turnovers. During those games the offense has averaged 20 ppg and has committed 9 turnovers. Not sure how anyone could blame the defense for the last few losses. To hold 3 Big 12 teams to 24 points and force an average of 3 turnovers per game and still lose all 3 games is an indictment on offense.
 
Buechele no doubt has gone from stud to dud!! I like the kid think he will be good, it
is what it is for the time being..I however don't see this great and wonderful defense
everyone is literally drooling over? I see a 5-6 team on the verge of 5-7 with a defense
that can't get off the field after 3rd down, forcing the offense to try and answer the call
every time

Beuchele and the offense that manages 34 PPG's isn't the problem it's the defense plan/simple
 
TexasCowboy said:
Buechele no doubt has gone from stud to dud!! I like the kid think he will be good, it
is what it is for the time being..I however don't see this great and wonderful defense
everyone is literally drooling over? I see a 5-6 team on the verge of 5-7 with a defense
that can't get off the field after 3rd down, forcing the offense to try and answer the call
every time

Beuchele and the offense that manages 34 PPG's isn't the problem it's the defense plan/simple
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If this were still the first four games of the season you would be totally correct. But it's not and things have changed drastically over the last seven games.

Nobody is drooling. But by every objective analysis possible the defense has improved ever since Strong took over and the offense has regressed every week.

The Texas offense went 3/17 on third down against Kansas. They had 6 turnovers, one of which was a pick six. They had 19 possessions on offense and only scored 21 points. That's two games worth of possessions and only three scores.

The defense held on 14/17 third downs, forced 10 punts, forced Kansas over on downs twice, and forced 2 additional turnovers.

Looked like the defense was getting off the field just fine and the offense didn't get close to answering the call.
 
Texian said:
Lots of folks just assume Texas is a Top Coaching job. Top coaches don't necessarily agree. Many of those coaches agree with Kirk Herbstreit that UT Austin is a cesspool.
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I'm not arguing that Texas has a stable situation in place right now, but how is LSU any better? They tried to fire their MNC winning coach midseason last year and were publicly humiliated by their own fan base and forced to back track. They fired the same coach this year before the end of September. Their AD is the same guy that ran Duke's athletic department during the lacrosse mess -- you may recall he ruined the reputation of a very good coach in the process.
 
Dan B. said:
I'm not arguing that Texas has a stable situation in place right now, but how is LSU any better? They tried to fire their MNC winning coach midseason last year and were publicly humiliated by their own fan base and forced to back track. They fired the same coach this year before the end of September. Their AD is the same guy that ran Duke's athletic department during the lacrosse mess -- you may recall he ruined the reputation of a very good coach in the process.
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I recall the Duke Lacrosse mess was the result of a highly unethical District Attorney who was running for re-election and the very Liberal press who was out for blood. The DA ended up being disbarred and going to jail for his roll in the mess, the Liberal Press was completely embarrassed and got it terribly wrong and the Duke Lacrosse players were completely exonerated of all charges.
 
Texian said:
I recall the Duke Lacrosse mess was the result of a highly unethical District Attorney who was running for re-election and the very Liberal press who was out for blood. The DA ended up being disbarred and going to jail for his roll in the mess, the Liberal Press was completely embarrassed and got it terribly wrong and the Duke Lacrosse players were completely exonerated of all charges.
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That doesn't change the fact that Alleva (Duke's AD at the time) forced their coach to resign over the liberal mudslinging. Duke later lost a defamation suit that Pressler filed against them. He threw that coach (who was national coach of the year the previous season) under the bus for supporting his players against Nifong. Why would Herman want a boss like that?
 
bah007 said:
If this were still the first four games of the season you would be totally correct. But it's not and things have changed drastically over the last seven games.

Nobody is drooling. But by every objective analysis possible the defense has improved ever since Strong took over and the offense has regressed every week.

The Texas offense went 3/17 on third down against Kansas. They had 6 turnovers, one of which was a pick six. They had 19 possessions on offense and only scored 21 points. That's two games worth of possessions and only three scores.

The defense held on 14/17 third downs, forced 10 punts, forced Kansas over on downs twice, and forced 2 additional turnovers.

Looked like the defense was getting off the field just fine and the offense didn't get close to answering the call.
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Correct things have changed..the defense has failed you can sit there and blame the offense all
day, till you are blue in the face. But the reality is? Charlie Strong just doesn't fit in the Big 12
3 years as head coach, 16-21 failing to improve the program via recruiting

today was/is the last we've seen of Charlie Brown I just hope their new head coach
will be a better selection that actually can get kids to come to UT
 
bah007 said:
Lol you're lack of knowledge clearly isn't limited to the NFL.

Recruiting is just fine. The issue is the Texas assistant coaches aren't doing their jobs. That falls on Strong. He hired them. But his recruiting is not an issue. They are loaded with athletes.

The defense has improved very much as the season has gone on. The offense is the unit not pulling its weight.

In conference play the Texas offense is #9 out of 10 teams in points, #8 on third downs, #9 in turnovers, and #9 in the red zone.

On defense they are #6 in points (only 2 ppg away from #2), #2 in sacks, #2 on third downs, #1 in turnovers, and #5 in the red zone.

So you say they can't force turnovers on defense and the offense scores a lot of points? They literally do the opposite of those two things.
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I keep asking myself this question? What happened to the offense we were seeing earlier this yr.
 
Strong's post game press conference is just sad.

A good man is going to get fired tomorrow, but that's what happens when you lose to Kansas and finish with a losing record. (Again)
 
Texian said:
Brian Davis ‏@BDavisAAS 3m3 minutes ago

Source: Tom Herman leaving Houston for Texas
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OK - I get the dream job scenario UT, Bevo, Mack Brown, Darryl K Royal, burnt orange ect..
what I don't get? is Houston is 9-3 this year under Herman, 5-3 in conference play and will
more than likely receive a bowl bid automatically

so why leave that for the UT head coach opening?

Mollywhopper said:
Nothing says classy like popping champagne for a good man getting fired...
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That is your interpretation certainly not mine..
 
TexasCowboy said:
OK - I get the dream job scenario UT, Bevo, Mack Brown, Darryl K Royal, burnt orange ect..
what I don't get? is Houston is 9-3 this year under Herman, 5-3 in conference play and will
more than likely receive a bowl bid automatically

so why leave that for the UT head coach opening?
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Because it is his dream job. Worst kept secret in all of sports. Sometimes the Heart over rules the Mind.
 
Texian said:
Because it is his dream job. Worst kept secret in all of sports. Sometimes the Heart over rules the Mind.
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I agree I believe we'd all jump at the chance if? our favorite sports team came calling
cause they were looking for a head coach/manager to lead them, All I am saying is???
he's been good at Houston in a conference where competition isn't that fierce to go to
a place where the expectations/demands are a lot bigger

makes no sense to me
 
TexasCowboy said:
I'm the one with a lack of rotflmgdmfao? Texas defensively gives up 31.5 points per game
currently ranked 94th out of 128, offensively they score 34 points per game, which
is currently ranked 39th..9 int's, 13 forced fumbles

yet here's the reality? currently 5-6 haven't won a Big 12 title? since Mack Brown
and are on the edge of failing to even make a potential bowl game..Even if by some
miracle of miracles they manage to beat TCU today (not happening) Yet we are to
believe the BS spewing out that sewer hole you call a mouth that the defense is
better? please go away you've just committed the ultimate suicide stupidity has
to offer
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I really wish I could unlike this post and I like talking football with you.

The name calling and arrogance in this post is just unbelievable.

Check yourself
 
Texian said:
I recall the Duke Lacrosse mess was the result of a highly unethical District Attorney who was running for re-election and the very Liberal press who was out for blood. The DA ended up being disbarred and going to jail for his roll in the mess, the Liberal Press was completely embarrassed and got it terribly wrong and the Duke Lacrosse players were completely exonerated of all charges.
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How much $$$$ did it cost those families to have their children exonerated? This is what's wrong with the system. The losing side should have to pay the bills anytime charges are brought. That would stop BS like this from happening.
 
steelbtexan said:
I really wish I could unlike this post and I like talking football with you.
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I know that certain boards have dislike options on them, not sure if this particular board has that feature or not?
but you can always ask

steelbtexan said:
The name calling and arrogance in this post is just unbelievable.
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Travis Dane Under Siege 2 dark territory coined one of my favorite sayings - assumption is the mother of all screw up's
I bring that up? because it's easy to assume the attack is against the person, Rather than attacking the opinion, to prove
it's wrong

just like it's wrong to assume there is arrogance in this case...I merely tell it like it is, It can be assumed
as arrogance but it's not, all I ask is to know the difference before judging the reply
 
TexasCowboy said:
I know that certain boards have dislike options on them, not sure if this particular board has that feature or not?
but you can always ask



Travis Dane Under Siege 2 dark territory coined one of my favorite sayings - assumption is the mother of all screw up's
I bring that up? because it's easy to assume the attack is against the person, Rather than attacking the opinion, to prove
it's wrong

just like it's wrong to assume there is arrogance in this case...I merely tell it like it is, It can be assumed
as arrogance but it's not, all I ask is to know the difference before judging the reply
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Believe me, I know the difference.
 
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