Chargers say they need a young quarterback (Paging Rick Smith)

[Texecutioner]

Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers has started 176 consecutive games, the fourth-longest streak for a quarterback in NFL history. But he won’t be around forever.

That’s why Chargers coach Anthony Lynn indicated at the league meeting that the Chargers will draft a quarterback who can back up the 35-year-old Rivers and compete with the 33-year-old Kellen Clemens for the No. 2 job.

“I think we do have to get a young quarterback on campus. We have to start developing someone because we have two veteran quarterbacks,” Lynn said. “Both of them are long in the tooth. I think they have some good years left in them — don’t get me wrong. But, you have to start thinking about down the line too.”

The Chargers have worked out Texas Tech’s Patrick Mahomes, Tennessee’s Joshua Dobbs and Notre Dame’s DeShone Kizer and may draft one of them as the heir apparent to Rivers.

Rivers has indicated that he has no problem with the Chargers drafting a quarterback, but he also expects to start for at least a few more years. So the Chargers’ next starting quarterback may be drafted this month, even if Rivers thinks that quarterback will sit on the bench until Rivers’ streak is well over 200 consecutive games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/04/03/chargers-say-they-need-a-young-quarterback/

Texans had an opportunity to go after Rivers two years ago, and were to stupid not to take advantage of that, and the past two years of our history shows what could have possibly come from that. The price was high, but easily would have been worth it considering what we did do and the hole we're in now. Here we are again in the exact same position we were in before and even in a worse position, and the Chargers seem ever more willing to part ways with Rivers who isn't going to get this train wreck organization anywhere any way. He wants out for sure since they're in L.A. and they really need to move on from him and get a little value while they still can.

This would be by far the best move the Texans could make from a realistic standpoint. WIll Rick Smith do it? Of course not, because he's always a step to slow to get the move done they need. OB should be stomping his feet all over the media to make this happen, but I doubt that will either.

Let this thread be a reminder for folks that always come back and say the Texans had no other chances or no other QB's they could get. We've had several, and this is the 2nd time they could get their hands on Rivers in the OB era.

 

[El Tejano]

I don't think they are saying they want to get rid of Rivers right now. I think they are saying they are gonna start on drafting their future QB now.

I also don't think San Diego every offered up Rivers and all of that was speculation back in the day.

 

[sandman]

Yeah, there is nothing saying that they don't want Rivers or that they are entertaining offers. Nice springboard for a Rick Smith Sucks post though. If

 

[steelbtexan]

Yeah, there is nothing saying that they don't want Rivers or that they are entertaining offers. Nice springboard for a Rick Smith Sucks post though. If

I listened to Chris Myers today and he said there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. Players are getting tired of going to war for Smith. Also said that Smith/BOB have had friction since yr 1.

Myers saying this, not me.

 

[Texecutioner]

Yeah, there is nothing saying that they don't want Rivers or that they are entertaining offers. Nice springboard for a Rick Smith Sucks post though. If

Rivers has been available for the last 2 years. It just cost draft picks. The fact that we wouldn't give it to them two years ago was horribly stupid. Instead we opted to go with Hoyer/Mallet and then Oz. Yeah, that worked out great for Smith didn't it? Man, the fact that you guys are still excusing Smith's actions as GM is hilarious.

 

[Texecutioner]

I don't think they are saying they want to get rid of Rivers right now. I think they are saying they are gonna start on drafting their future QB now.

I also don't think San Diego every offered up Rivers and all of that was speculation back in the day.

Read in between the lines. That is exactly what they are saying. They are basically telling teams to make them offers since they want to get younger and a fresh face at QB. They're not going to just put him on the trading block for god sakes and make themselves look desperate where they get low offers only. Hope you like rooting for Savage this season.

 

[thunderkyss]

Philip Rivers is definitely on my short list of veteran QBs I wouldn't mind coming to Houston. I agree, the Texans should have entered into talks, serious talks with the Chargers when Rivers was on the fence.


But they extended him, giving him a lot more money. Because of that, I think it will be difficult to offer the Chargers a deal they can't refuse. They have $17M in cap space. They'll have their rookies to sign & a 90 man roster they need to fill. Trading Rivers before OTAs will eat up another $9M leaving them with barely enough to sign the draft picks they have now, much less the two or three from this year's draft they would get from us.

Because of this, I think a more likely unlikely target is Matt Stafford. The Lions are in the exact opposite situation. They've got a little more than $6M in cap space & can free up close to $17M by trading Stafford. They've had very little success with Stafford, I would imagine we could bend their ear & work something out.

It will be expensive. But I think O'b is much more likely to make a veteran QB like Stafford a contender than he is to make Savage average.

He's had some shoulder repair in the past, but looked extremely healthy Last season.

 

[revan]

Philip Rivers is definitely on my short list of veteran QBs I wouldn't mind coming to Houston. I agree, the Texans should have entered into talks, serious talks with the Chargers when Rivers was on the fence.


But they extended him, giving him a lot more money. Because of that, I think it will be difficult to offer the Chargers a deal they can't refuse. They have $17M in cap space. They'll have their rookies to sign & a 90 man roster they need to fill. Trading Rivers before OTAs will eat up another $9M leaving them with barely enough to sign the draft picks they have now, much less the two or three from this year's draft they would get from us.

Because of this, I think a more likely unlikely target is Matt Stafford. The Lions are in the exact opposite situation. They've got a little more than $6M in cap space & can free up close to $17M by trading Stafford. They've had very little success with Stafford, I would imagine we could bend their ear & work something out.

It will be expensive. But I think O'b is much more likely to make a veteran QB like Stafford a contender than he is to make Savage average.

He's had some shoulder repair in the past, but looked extremely healthy Last season.

Oh man if this is possible and does happen, I will poop my pants!!. This would be awesome, Stafford is still young.

 

[Texecutioner]

Philip Rivers is definitely on my short list of veteran QBs I wouldn't mind coming to Houston. I agree, the Texans should have entered into talks, serious talks with the Chargers when Rivers was on the fence.


But they extended him, giving him a lot more money. Because of that, I think it will be difficult to offer the Chargers a deal they can't refuse. They have $17M in cap space. They'll have their rookies to sign & a 90 man roster they need to fill. Trading Rivers before OTAs will eat up another $9M leaving them with barely enough to sign the draft picks they have now, much less the two or three from this year's draft they would get from us.

Because of this, I think a more likely unlikely target is Matt Stafford. The Lions are in the exact opposite situation. They've got a little more than $6M in cap space & can free up close to $17M by trading Stafford. They've had very little success with Stafford, I would imagine we could bend their ear & work something out.

It will be expensive. But I think O'b is much more likely to make a veteran QB like Stafford a contender than he is to make Savage average.

He's had some shoulder repair in the past, but looked extremely healthy Last season.

Stafford was elite last season, and I'd be all over that if it was possible. No way the Lions are letting him go now unless he demands it which he should, because he's in the same situation Hopkins is in here. They are the Lions though, and they are just as dumb as the Texans so not impossible. I'd love to have Stafford though. His arm is just as good as Rodgers if you ask me.

Rivers costs quite a bit yes, but what does that matter? Any good QB will cost a ton of money and you'll be over paying. You have to now days unfortunately. I wouldn't worry about the cost unless you simply don't have the cap room. If we didn't, then I'd dump someone to create the cap room.

Two off seasons ago he was being shopped for two 1st round picks. I would have done it then, and I'd say it would have been easily worth it. Johnson and Fuller aren't exactly changing the future of this franchise dramatically. We likely could have had Rivers for the last two years and two or three more while developing other young QB's. Rivers aint perfect, but he's been pretty damn good throughout his career on a really bad organization.

 

[WolverineFan]

Texans already missed the boat on Rivers. He was very open to forcing a trade 2 years ago but instead Texans went with retread Hoyer.

Now he's on the decline and seems content to live out his remaining days with the Chargers.

 

[sandman]

Rivers has been available for the last 2 years. It just cost draft picks. The fact that we wouldn't give it to them two years ago was horribly stupid. Instead we opted to go with Hoyer/Mallet and then Oz. Yeah, that worked out great for Smith didn't it? Man, the fact that you guys are still excusing Smith's actions as GM is hilarious.

Do you reply with any context to what I actually wrote?

In the article - the one you linked - there is NOTHING about the Chargers drafting a QB to get rid of Rivers, or Rivers wanting to leave the Chargers.

Thus, I replied:

Yeah, there is nothing saying that they don't want Rivers or that they are entertaining offers.

Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. Where did I excuse Smith's actions as a GM? I made a factual comment about the article you posted.

Do you even know how to stay on point anymore?

 

[Texecutioner]

Do you reply with any context to what I actually wrote?

In the article - the one you linked - there is NOTHING about the Chargers drafting a QB to get rid of Rivers, or Rivers wanting to leave the Chargers.

Thus, I replied:



Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. Where did I excuse Smith's actions as a GM? I made a factual comment about the article you posted.

Do you even know how to stay on point anymore?

It has everything to do with what you wrote. If you have a problem understanding that, then give it another chance. You'll likely get there eventually. Read in between the lines of the article. It isn't that difficult.

 

[sandman]

It has everything to do with what you wrote. If you have a problem understanding that, then give it another chance. You'll likely get there eventually. Read in between the lines of the article. It isn't that difficult.

You've become as condescending and obnoxious as Texian. See ya.

 

[thunderkyss]

You've become as condescending and obnoxious as Texian. See ya.

Sometimes he's a cool dude. Most of the time... maybe. But every now & then he goes through spells.




I'm thinking drugs.

 

[Number19]

Of course this all depends on how the top of the first round plays out; but....

This announcement by the Chargers plays to our benefit. As I understand, the 49ers are desperate for a QB but won't use the #2 pick on one. The Jets may also be looking to draft a QB but not at #6.

If the right QB falls to us at #25, say Mahomes, then we might have three potential teams wanting to trade up with us.

San Francisco would be ideal, sitting at 2-34. Their 3-66 would be a bit over paying. But with the Jets and Chargers right behind them, as a threat to deal with the Texans, the 49ers just might be willing to let go of their third pick.

I can contemplate this scenario because I like Peterman and would be looking to get him at 2-57 or possibly at 3-66.

I would use 2-34 on an OLman. And then either 2-57 or 3-66 on another OLman.

This would hopefully set our offensive line for the next five to eight years.

The rest of the draft would be BPA.

 

[ObsiWan]

It has everything to do with what you wrote. If you have a problem understanding that, then give it another chance. You'll likely get there eventually. Read in between the lines of the article. It isn't that difficult.

IMO, 'read between the lines' is just another way of saying "make up anything you want"

 

[Texecutioner]

IMO, 'read between the lines' is just another way of saying "make up anything you want"

You being one of the biggest homers and excuse makers of this franchise who has been wrong on pretty much everything you've argued for Smith, Kubiak, and Mcnair, and every other apologist twist for management, I'd expect you to say anything and everything is fake to excuse Rick Smith. I'd think by now you'd be tired of looking so foolish having to try and explain their incompetence every year, but its expected.

 

[Texecutioner]

You've become as condescending and obnoxious as Texian. See ya.

Texian obviously has you shook and butt hurt over previous arguments for you to drag his name into a discussion after you chime in with your typical snide responses. You get what you give, and in your case it ain't much.

 

[Texecutioner]

Sometimes he's a cool dude. Most of the time... maybe. But every now & then he goes through spells.




I'm thinking drugs.

Lol! You of all people could probably benefit from drugs. It might balance out all your confusion you seem to struggle with. In your case I'd recommened it.

 

[ObsiWan]

You being one of the biggest homers and excuse makers of this franchise who has been wrong on pretty much everything you've argued for Smith, Kubiak, and Mcnair, and every other apologist twist for management, I'd expect you to say anything and everything is fake to excuse Rick Smith. I'd think by now you'd be tired of looking so foolish having to try and explain their incompetence every year, but its expected.

Back when we went 2-14 and you (and others) said Kubiak would NEVER win a SB or get another head coaching job and I said he would, which one of us was right?

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

I doubt seriously Cutler is in play, nor would I particularly want him. If by some unlikely event, he would have a play made for him, he wouldn't accept "cheap. In fact, I would expect that the Texans would be expected to pay big bucks for him...............in addition to buying the farm he'd insist on bringing with him to the table.

 

[badboy]

I doubt seriously Cutler is in play, nor would I particularly want him. If by some unlikely event, he would have a play made for him, he wouldn't accept "cheap. In fact, I would expect that the Texans would be expected to pay big bucks for him...............in addition to buying the farm he'd insist on bringing with him to the table.

whahaha!! That's funny right there.

 

[Texecutioner]

Back when we went 2-14 and you (and others) said Kubiak would NEVER win a SB or get another head coaching job and I said he would, which one of us was right?

Damn, you keep digging don't you? Lol!

Kubiak was marched out of town. That ended for you badly. Its still hilarious to see you guys that argued endlessly for him for years have to reach to other teams to try to justify what he didn't do here.