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SDBoltz said:
if you deny that gates isnt an elite TE your an ***** or ignorant most likely the latter but its all good. you will find out sunday when your sayin to yourself... wow that was a nice catch or maybe for some of you smug fans a "lucky" catch ha whatever the case is you will know gates talents by the end of this game and just look at the games he started in last year and you will see what i am talking about. actually dont do that just look sunday after he catches a couple td's on you and forces you to take out you 8 and 9 man fronts. brees is an accurate passer i believe he just had an off year last year. and as far as erik parker goes you guys sayin you let him go... why are you clowning yourself anyone with any nfl sense knows that parker is a playmaker.

Hey I admire your passion, most people would have given up by now on trying to sell thier players to the other teams fans. You just need to see thing a little more realistically, and lose some of that homerism. Gates isn't all that great. Heap and Gonzalez are better, and I'd even take Winslow over Gates. Brees is not a good QB, if he was you guys would not have drafted a QB with your 1st pick. Stop acting like San Diego is the All-Madden team and that Houston is still 1st year expansion.
 
I think this will be a very close game. Both coaches like to play conservative running football. I'd expect more of a 21-18 game.
 
Gates is a good tight end, certainly better than any TE that you have. I can't say he is better than Heap or Gonzalez yet, but by the end of the season I will be able to. You have no linebackers that can cover him. Ya i know you have Sharper and I also know he is not as fast as Gates on the field nor as big. We run alot of trick plays reverses things of that sort. I can tell alot of you are expecting it to be a traditional smash mouth football game. If that is the Texans thinking they are in for a rude awakening. We have fake field goals that will blow your mind and make you red in the face. We have reverses fake reverses double reverses flea flickers every series, which also helps open holes for tomlinson keeping the LB's back on their heels. Either way I dont see the Texans winning this one, our style is something that you cant prepare for.
 
SDBoltz said:
Gates is a good tight end, certainly better than any TE that you have. I can't say he is better than Heap or Gonzalez yet, but by the end of the season I will be able to. You have no linebackers that can cover him. Ya i know you have Sharper and I also know he is not as fast as Gates on the field nor as big. We run alot of trick plays reverses things of that sort. I can tell alot of you are expecting it to be a traditional smash mouth football game. If that is the Texans thinking they are in for a rude awakening. We have fake field goals that will blow your mind and make you red in the face. We have reverses fake reverses double reverses flea flickers every series, which also helps open holes for tomlinson keeping the LB's back on their heels. Either way I dont see the Texans winning this one, our style is something that you cant prepare for.

:rofl: Oh boy this just keeps getting better and better!
 
i said that it would be 44 - 17 .. with the Texans owning em.. but I doubt it will happen since Capers just doesnt seem like the kind of coach who is going to blow another team out.. he is too defensively minded. He will get up by 10 points then do everything he can to run the clock out so the other team cant catch up.

But ya never know.. DD looked awesome and i wouldnt be surprised to see him break some BIG runs this sunday.

As for this whole "debate".. I dont really have anything to add. Everyone before me has pretty much summed it up.. The chargers dont have anything going for them except for LT. Which doesnt mean that they couldnt pull out a win.. but for the chargers to do that, the Texans would have come to the game unprepared to play. Honestly.. I dont see that happening.. we have too much heart, too much to prove, and Capers is too smart to let that happen.

We are gonna come out of this one with the W.

Jacksonville will lose to either Buffalo or the Broncs. The titans will beat the dolphins today, and the Colts will beat the Titans in week 2.

we will beat the Lions and that will put us at 2-0 and everyone else at 1-1 :).. we will be leading the division coming into week 3.
 
SDBoltz said:
We have fake field goals that will blow your mind and make you red in the face. We have reverses fake reverses double reverses flea flickers every series, which also helps open holes for tomlinson keeping the LB's back on their heels. Either way I dont see the Texans winning this one, our style is something that you cant prepare for.

Fake field goal equals incomplete pass or dead kicker.

Reverse equals a whole lot of running for 1 yd.

Double reverse equals fumble and dead receiver. What, they're gonna fake us out and then run right back into us, lol?

Flea flicker is just a fake handoff that takes too long. It's usually a bad play.

No offense, but, hey, you should try the statue of liberty play too.




:rofl:
 
HJam72 said:
No offense, but, hey, you should try the statue of liberty play too.




:rofl:


Yea and maybe on every kickoff they can run the Stanford-Cal play and lateral it 7or 8 times. We better look out for that one too.
 
RTP2110 said:
Yea and maybe on every kickoff they can run the Stanford-Cal play and lateral it 7or 8 times. We better look out for that one too.

I think the best team tends to want to play straight up football, for the most part, but I wouldn't complain about our team doing anything to win against, say, the Patriots or somebody.
 
First it was all pro offensive lineman that Charger fans were pimping. That was shot down. Then it was a better starting Charger line-up then the Texans. That too was shot down. Then it was a second round rookie linebacker and a tight end that we are to "be in fear of". Hmm yeah, that was shot down as well. Now the best that they have in their verbal arsenal is trick plays, double reverses, and fake field goals that will "blow our minds".

ooooooh.

Is there a pattern here? All good post by Fiddy, Lucky, and Vinny btw
 
we rarely run a reverse that doesnt get us a first down or more or an end around. if you want to think we are going to get 1 yard per reverse go ahead and think that, it will be your undoing.
 
SDBoltz said:
we rarely run a reverse that doesnt get us a first down or more or an end around. if you want to think we are going to get 1 yard per reverse go ahead and think that, it will be your undoing.

That was bloody awful. No spelling errors though.
 
DominatorDavis said:
That was bloody awful. No spelling errors though.

what is this grammer school you prissy lil texan fans are gonna get raped by us tomorrow. We are going to flood your board and gloat. It's real cute though that you try to build your confidence bu attacking my grammar which has what to do with football again?? Hell lester hayes couldn't speak but he won a SB
 
Boltz, can you please tell me what positions you are better then us at except RB, because I already know that LT is the best back in the league. What positions do the Chargers have superior talent to the Texans???
 
We downright have you beat in terms of personel. DD shouldn't be underrated in this game. Our recieving should absolutely have an advantage over you recieving core. And as for stopping LT? Last season's record says it all. LT can't do it all by himself. Who else is going to make a play besides LT, on offense or defense? I see no big-time players on either side of the ball.

But to the Charger's credit, I think Brees can be a legit starting QB in the NFL. If he was playing on another team with some sort of recieving core, I think he'd be OK. No worse than, say, Fiedler of the Dolphins.
 
OK folks, let's stop with the grammar remarks. If you can't understand what someone has posted, don't bother to respond & move on.
 
Fiddy said:
Boltz, Can you please tell me what positions you are better then us at except RB, because I already know that LT is the best back in the league. What positions do the Chargers have superior talent to the Texans???

*jeopardy music*

Ill take 0 for the farm alex.
 
our special teams are better. our TE is better our RB is better. Our QB is better. Yes Brees is better than CArr and you will see tomorrow. Our O line is better our Linebacking core is better. Our Secondary is better. If you don't know Quentin Jammer or Sammy Davis you quickly will. Donnie edwards or Jamie sharper? I take Mr. Edwards. Ben Leber could put Carr out for the game, but Carr is a tough guy so I dunno. I am sure he will sack him though most likely a few times. Our DT is an all pro in Jamal Williams. I know Chester Pitts pretty well actually. I also know that he is not an elite oline man and wand.... nuff said. Your Kicker may be better I don't know guess we will find that out as the season goes along.
 
sdboltz makes a few claims...
Chargers better than Texans...wonder where that comes from...seems to me they drafted higher than us in April indicating last years win total not matching the Texans...he earlier claimed injuries as the reason for their decimated season. I wonder if he realizes that no team had more players on injured reserve in '03 than the Texans. Seems to me that based on recent history the Chargers better than the Texans argument holds no water....but Sunday should settle that talk for at least this year.

He also states Padres better than Astros...a quick look at this mornings Wild Card standings indicates the Friars 1 1/2 game behind the 'Stros in that race...hmmm...another wildly non-fact based claim.

And Dems better than Repulicans...polls don't show his team leading that race either....

0 for three...Bolts fans take the collar in the Bullpen and Texans win 24-14 at Reliant.....

Go Texans!!
 
SDBoltz said:
our special teams are better. our TE is better our RB is better. Our QB is better. Yes Brees is better than CArr and you will see tomorrow. Our O line is better our Linebacking core is better. Our Secondary is better. If you don't know Quentin Jammer or Sammy Davis you quickly will. Donnie edwards or Jamie sharper? I take Mr. Edwards. Ben Leber could put Carr out for the game, but Carr is a tough guy so I dunno. I am sure he will sack him though most likely a few times. Our DT is an all pro in Jamal Williams. I know Chester Pitts pretty well actually. I also know that he is not an elite oline man and wand.... nuff said. Your Kicker may be better I don't know guess we will find that out as the season goes along.
I dont know how your special teams are better, Stanley has led the league in punts downed inside the 20 for the last two years and Brown has been really accurate since leaving Pittsburg. And arent you guys starting rookies at the Punter and Kicker position??? I'll give you Gates is better the Miller or Bruener, individually, but I would rather have Miller and Bruener then just Gates. If Brees is so good, why did they trade for Rivers??? Who are your two safties in the secondary??? And with Jammer and Davis you guys gave up more TD passes then any other team last year and it wasnt close. Sharper had more sacks, tackles, and forced fumbles then Edwards, and Edwards is moving from OLB to ILB in the 34. Wong and Leber had the same number of sacks last year. You guys even released your best defensive player in Marcus Weily. And do you remember that Glenn went to the probowl 2 years ago and that Coleman tied for the AFC lead for INTs and D-Rob was a higher rated prospect coming out of college then Davis??? And dont forget that Faggins shut down Marvin Harrision last year until he broke his leg. I'd take Wand and Pitts over the left side of your line...


Plus, this game is won in the trenches and our O-line and D-line are clearly superior to the Chargers' and if you try to argue that the Chargers lines are better, I am going to be forced to put you on my ignore list...
 
lol if you vote for bush your in an idi0t but that is a whole different issue. Tomorrow it will all be settled, I will be here one way or another because I am a good sport. Please believe I will be giving it to you when the chargers win.
Padres own the Astros, whooped up on Clemens whooped up on pettite whoope up on the Astros. They do say its not who you play but when you play them... and on Paper the astros are a good team.

But back to football where San Diego will beat another Houston squad.
 
First Off are D Coordinator has been an ***** the last 2 years. An overrated Marcellus Wiley and an injured Raylee Johnson never put pressure on the qb. So our db's would get torched. With more pressure on the qb this year our CB's will show why they are first round picks.
 
SDBoltz said:
First Off are D Coordinator has been an ***** the last 2 years. An overrated Marcellus Wiley and an injured Raylee Johnson never put pressure on the qb. So our db's would get torched. With more pressure on the qb this year our CB's will show why they are first round picks.
Who excatly is suppose to apply the pressure. Steve Foley??? Trust me when I say that to be able to get pressure in a 3-4, you need a big line that can occupy mulitple o-lineman and yall dont have that.
 
i guess igor olshansky at 6-6 309 is a small guy huh....all muscle at that... i guess all pro jamal williams at 6'3 305 is a small guy... or how about adrian dingle at 6'4 288 he's pretty small too... not to mention our lb's are fast. I am out for now. I may come on later if not good luck to all of you and your team. May the best team (chargers) win :hehe:
 
Lucky said:
Huh? I just checked how many games the Chargers starters missed last year:

Vaughn Parker - RT - 13 games
Jason Ball - C - 8 games
Soloman Page - RG - 6 games
Damon McIntosh - LT - 4 games
David Boston - WR - 2 games
Raylee Johnson - RDE - 7 games (and Dingle had won the RDE spot anyway)
Jamal Williams - LDT - 1 game

If your point is that the Chargers missed these guys so badly last season that they only won 4 games, I ask what's changed? Jamal Williams is the only player San Diego brought back, and he missed a grand total of 1 game.

In contrast, take a look at some of the players the Texans missed last year.

Seth Payne - NT - 14 games
Gary Walker - DE - 12 games
Aaron Glenn - CB - 5 games (and hobbled all year with a nagging hamstring)
David Carr - QB - Missed all or parts of 7 games

Those aren't throwaway players, that's the heart of the team. And yes, the Texans lost backups to injury. Do you think that's OK? Tony Banks went down while subbing for Carr, the Texans had to start their 3rd string rookie QB for 2 games. CB Kenny Wright went down while subbing for Glenn, then Petey Faggins went out subbing for Wright. How about having to play your 4th string CB? Not to mention when reserves like Ramon Walker are lost, that doesn't exactly help the special teams.

The 5-11 Texans could and probably would have won more games without the massive injury toll. The Chargers were going to be a 4-12 team, regardless. Losses like Page and Vaughn are so inconsequential, it's ridiculous. These guys are no longer in the league. Comparing the Chargers injuries in '03 to the Texans injuries is laughable.

Don't stop there!!!!! you only printed half our list.If your going to spout out stats then do the whole thing.Just like someone in denial to take half the truth and twist it into there own story.I was responding to when you guy's said you had more guy's injured than us.FALSE!! not true!!!! even your lies are big in Texas.
 
SHOCKU said:
I was responding to when you guy's said you had more guy's injured than us.FALSE!! not true!!!! even your lies are big in Texas.
The Texans had the most players on IR in the NFL last year. That's not even debatable. It's a fact.
 
Vinny said:
The Texans had the most players on IR in the NFL last year. That's not even debatable. It's a fact.

Vinny...with them arguing the real numbers it become painfully obvious why California is referred to as the land of Fruit and Nuts... :rofl:
 
Kinda nice having the homers come in and stirr the pot. Although, I'm missing the grief we get from the real contenders. They don't have to ignore the stats to make there points. It does get frustrating trying to convince the blind left of the obvious. :crazy:
 
Clark Judge's Thought on S.D......

I'm sorry, but unless you have LaDainian Tomlinson on your fantasy football team or are related to Drew Brees, there's not much reason to watch the Chargers. They should be awful, and this is their first opportunity to prove it.

CBS Sportsline
 
NEWSFLASH......

Former Dolphins RB and complete moron Ricky Williams was sighted in San Diego, smoking some wacky weed with Charger fans. Several smokers of the laced weed were reported as bieng delusional. Ricky wanted to be with others that shared his delusions of adequacy.
 
Hanik Milligan, Toniu Fonoti, Eric Parker, Tim Dwight, and Courtney Van Buren were all on the Chargers IR last year and aren't mentioned above.

The Texans had 17 guys on IR but 1/4 of those wouldn't have made the team anyway and were hurt in training camp (Herndon, Dennis, Lorenti, Lynch). Even though the Texans had a lot of injuries, that stat was always a little overused to me.

Arguing about who had more injuries last year is kind of a moot point right about now, doncha think?
 
Not that it matters because all in all this is last year that i'm talking about and tomorrow's gonna be the texans future and the charger's after life but Lucky failed to include on his injury report that DD didn't start for the first 6 games. tisk tisk.
 
The Chargers waterboy, one of the members of the turf crew, and a fellow who sells cotton candy in the stands during SD home games were all injured as well.

The team was decimated. It was just awful.
 
ok I will be here tomorrow around 9 am or so PST And will make a thread called Boltz vs Texans look for it so I can see all your ptetty lil avatar's crying.
 
SDBoltz said:
ok I will be here tomorrow around 9 am or so PST And will make a thread called Boltz vs Texans look for it so I can see all your ptetty lil avatar's crying.

You will probably be the only one here. Most of us will be at the game.
 
i dunno i'm sure there will be a few leftovers wo couldnt get or afford a ticket. either way whoever is here were going to have fun talkin smack during the game
 
SDBoltz said:
ok I will be here tomorrow around 9 am or so PST And will make a thread called Boltz vs Texans look for it so I can see all your ptetty lil avatar's crying.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=define:+avatar

Avatar: Definition - From the Sanscrit for the incarnation of Godhead, an avatar is the 'body' you 'wear' in a virtual community - an animated, articulated representation of a human which represents you, the user, in any virtual environment. Some of the more sophisticated chat rooms provide the facility to 'chat' over the 'net via the visual representation of interacting human forms.

Also:

An avatar is a graphical representation of a person, which you can use in some 3D style chat rooms. Each person in the chat room chooses an avatar to represent themselves.

I do not think that you are using that word correctly. Unless are applying it to "SDBoltz" as well. And then in that case - it is "pretty" and it is little. And after tomorrows game you will be crying.

Looking forward to your thread - it should be entitled "How the Texans whooped us...by SDBoltz.
 
SDBoltz said:
just a question how much did it hurt to see the titans in the super bowl in 99?? not joking just wondering if it was particularly painful and if it still hurts. because i gotta admit back in the early 90's and "the house of pain" with moon givens haywood jeffries you guys had a pretty good squad used to watch em all the time when i was out in sugarland. and do you have a hatred for the titans now???


YES WE hate the titans yean it wasnt a good feeling how as soon as they left here they went to the superbowl,,,but we'll beat them this year . miami sucks so their win over them dont mean shizit.
 
aj. said:
Hanik Milligan, Toniu Fonoti, Eric Parker, Tim Dwight, and Courtney Van Buren were all on the Chargers IR last year and aren't mentioned above.

The Texans had 17 guys on IR but 1/4 of those wouldn't have made the team anyway and were hurt in training camp (Herndon, Dennis, Lorenti, Lynch). Even though the Texans had a lot of injuries, that stat was always a little overused to me.

Arguing about who had more injuries last year is kind of a moot point right about now, doncha think?

Extreemly moot point but again I was responding,I didn't start the thread.You said exactly what I said earlier.1/4 of your injuries wouldn't of made the team or they were back ups.The ones that did start were not out at the same time.My point! over 95% of our injured were starters and 9 of them were out at the same time! ESPN last season also talked about how unfortunant that was for the chargers and it was a first in NFL history that many starters out at the same time.

p.s.Guy's if we can't talk football please do not respond.Yes, I am from L.A. born and raised and if we were just going to talk smack all of those who just wanted to sound cool with sarcasm please belive me when I tell you they weren't even funny and you make yourself out to be realy easy targets.My jr.high days are over and choose to talk sports.Just like Shamrock I'll be in here win or lose tomarrow.We will win though = )
 
The ones that did start were not out at the same time.My point!
Your point isn't accurate but again, it means nothing today. The Texans had around a dozen that mattered on IR last year, plus others (like Carr, Peek and DD) who mattered and were banged up but didn't go on IR.

Gary Walker and Seth Payne (2/3 of our starting defensive line) were out essentially the entire year. Milford Brown (starting OG) went down in Week 2 and was never the same. Aaron Glenn (Pro Bowl CB) was hurt in Week 4, never recovered, and was eventually IR'd. Antwan Peek (situational pass rusher) missed the first three weeks of the season. David Carr (starting QB) missed 1/2 the season. He, Tony Banks and Domanick Davis (starting RB) were all out at the same time around Week 13 or so. Kenny Wright (nickel) and Ramon Walker (special teams standout) went out late in the season. I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting but it not worth any more time because I'm kind of focused on today...
 
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