ok i can tell you texan fans are confident your going to beat us... but keep a few things in mind..... in 2002 we were 8-8 rolled over you guys and should have been in thee playoffs.... in 2003 it was supposed to be a push year with alot of people picking us to win the division or come in second.....that obviously didnt happen do to injuries and lack of experience.... we played much better at the end of the season once our secondary gained some experience and learned from their mistakes..... i only worry about the johnson sammy davis matchup because of the size issues. although in the pre season against much bigger wr's he did well... but thats pre season..... our conversion to the 3-4 has been a smooth transition and while people think we keep it simple... we actually have some complicated blitzes that we come at you with brees led the pre season in passing.... the defense led the league in sacks we have all pro's liek mike goff and roman oben anchoring our line which is much much better than yours we have donnie edwards and ben leber coming from outside with donnie stuffing the middle with fellow all pro jamal williams....we had no pass rush what so ever last year and that is why our secondary kept getting burned.... l.t. has been known to eat up a 3-4 defense ur better off goin 4 down not that it matters kuz i can guarantee you he is going to run for 150 catch 7-8 passes some 20 or more yard screens and lots of reverses for you to think we are push overs is just foolish... or to expect to win.. you should just be hoping to win.. and expect a dog fight like us our play action fakes will kill your aggresive safeties you think we have no playmakers at wr when erik parker is a superstar rising this year... he has some of the best hands in the league i just wish you would look at the game realisitically and realize that its going to be a close one
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HoustonTexans4Life
Noob
Yeah Brees really kicked *** against a couple of second and third string defensive players. I watches a few of their games i could prolly do good against some lil kindergarden players as well,,,,,but hey no need to rag on brees i mean look at ALL the success he's had. Plus if ya wanna get down to it yall had a better preseason than us so ya know maybe your right 
i dunno i guess we'll see sunday !
i dunno i guess we'll see sunday !
Well, Texan fans are just naturally confident. That happens when your team never loses an opening game.SDBoltz said:
Believe me, you don't have to remind Texans fans about the 1st loss in team history. I pretty sure David Carr remembers being sacked 9 times in the 2nd game in franchise history. Don't expect that the Chargers will walk into the loudest stadium in the NFL with warm applause. Take a pound of flesh, you owe a pound of flesh.
As far as the logic used to explain why the Chargers should win, I'm not following you. The Chargers defense used to be good, now it's not. The team used to be average, now it's not. The Chargers had injuries and...wait, hold it right there. The 2nd year Texans led the NFL in players on IR in '03. And they still had a better record than the Chargers. You can't play the injury card here in Houston, my friend.
Look I respect Tomlinson, he's a great back. Considering the lack of talent around him, his production is legendary. I respect Marty, Wade, and the Chargers coaching staff. Given the time and the talent, I think they'll turn this team around. I don't think they'll get the time, but that's for another time & another thread. The Chargers are rebuilding, just as the Texans have been building for the past 2 seasons. The Texans are just a year or so ahead of the curve than the Chargers are. The Chargers have maybe 3 players on defense, and only 1 player on offense that would start on this Texan team.
Homefield, motivation, talent...the Texans have the edge. I believe in the adage "On any given Sunday..." Just not this Sunday.
HoustonTexans4Life
Noob
very nice i like 
RTP2110
All Pro
The Texans are favored in this game for a reason, and it's not because SD is the better team. That entire rant could be said by any NFL fan. All teams have injuries. All teams have potential stars that other teams don't know about. Every week there are aspects of a team that you could say the other team is underestimating. I could re-write that whole piece and switch it from Chargers to Texans and make just as many points.
JDizzle
I'm a dude
Many folks don't understand what Seau brought to that defense. He is so energetic and a wonderful leader, he made the people around him play harder, and brought a spirit to that defense.
Hopefully for Charger fan, with a renewed fire under Drew Brees' rear end, their offense will pick up some. I really do think that this is going to be a good game. Even though I really want my boys to whip up on the 'Chah-jus", I think it will be a pretty good game.
Hopefully for Charger fan, with a renewed fire under Drew Brees' rear end, their offense will pick up some. I really do think that this is going to be a good game. Even though I really want my boys to whip up on the 'Chah-jus", I think it will be a pretty good game.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
SDBoltz said:
LT breaking the rushing record huh? Exactly which OLinemen is going to help him on his way to doing that? Jamal Lewis has ProBowl LT Ogden helping him out. Don't think you got that on your team. Even your starting center from last year doesn't want to play for your team anymore. Sad state of affairs over in San Diego that is for sure. I'd also like to hear who on your team is capable of getting a sack on Jeff George much less David Carr who has decent mobility. Igor perhaps? Other Charger fans seem to be touting him as if he'll be a pressence as opposed to just another lousy player on a lousy team. Good luck with this coming season because you guys are going to need it. Especially after having your ***** handed to you by the Texans.
neither team is a dominant team but in today's nfl its about team chemistry and playmaking. any...and i mean any team can make the playoffs if they can get into the right rhythem and get on a roll of winning early...maybe thats why you texan fans are so amped up... just like we are.. its not the nfl of the mid 90's where you could just write certain teams off
Just for grins, I took a gander at Tomlinson's rushing yardage against 34 defenses.SDBoltz said:
2002
Houston - 84 yards
2003
Baltimore - 105 yards
Pittsburgh - 91 yards
Now, averaging 93 yards/game isn't shabby, but it doesn't spell doom & gloom for the Texans, either. It will take an extraordinary performance from Tomlinson for the Chargers to beat the Texans 34 defense. Not his ordinary performance.
Mike Goff & Roman Oben are All-Pros? Huh?
BTW, did you give yourself a 5 star rating for this thread? Talk about overrated!
RTP2110
All Pro
Chargers' best bet is to try and get out to an early lead. If they get behind and have to pass it will be a long day. They need to have the lead and be able to feed LT all game long.
Both teams are closely matched, but one important factor being overlooked is the Reliant Stadium advantage. Reliant Stadium is LOUD. Now, I've never been to Arrowhead or any other crazy stadium like that, but I could not imagine it being any louder than Reliant gets. That will be another distraction for S.D.
Both teams are closely matched, but one important factor being overlooked is the Reliant Stadium advantage. Reliant Stadium is LOUD. Now, I've never been to Arrowhead or any other crazy stadium like that, but I could not imagine it being any louder than Reliant gets. That will be another distraction for S.D.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
One thing I can say for the Chargers is that at least there are a few fans that aren't bandwagon types. It might be like staying with a sinking ship, but you guys seem to be content to go down with it. LT is a great RB, and among the best in the league. Unfortunately for you he is all you have to hang your hat on. If you had a great WR, or even a very good O-Line then you'd have something going in SD, but you don't. I dare say our 4th WR could start for your team right now. Armstrong has been amazing in the preseason, and SD's defense will have the pleasure of meeting him if we go to a 4 wide set. One thing I can gurantee you'll see is plenty of DD running over your guys, and you'll see the improvements that Todd Wade and Mark Bruener bring to the running game. All smack talk aside I just hope you guys show your faces on the board come Monday, and take your just desserts for all the smack you've been spewing. It's the stand up thing to do, and I hope you'll do the stand up thing after losing to the Texans.
igor is more than capable of killing carr as is ben leber..since he has done it a few times b4 lol and he kinda liked it....adrian dingle is more than capable..... you know steve foley is goin to be jacked up and you know he helped your Def out alot last year.... he wants to murder you guys..... we'll even throw in some corner blitzes i wouldnt be surprised to see drayton florence or quentin jammer gettin a sack or 2
texasguy346
Mod Squad
CB blitzes huh? Wow that's a novel trick. Who will cover AJ? Bradford? Gaffney? Guess you haven't seen DD's ability to pick up the blitz, but you'll see it on Sunday. Foley helped us out tremendously did he? That's why he was a starter, and we put so much effort in trying to resign him. Oh thats right he wasn't a starter. He's a quality depth LB, but he couldn't start in Cincy or in Houston yet he can start in San Diego. Must be some nice LB depth there I bet. How bout LT's success against 3-4 defenses? I believe Lucky stated in another post that he averaged 93 yds a game? You're expecting to win the game with 93 yards of rushing? Looks like your shaky passing game is going to have to contribute something. Who are you going to throw to, and how are they going to beat coverage? You've got a rookie kicker, and since when did Oben become an All Pro? Take a look at our O-Line before you start predicting sacks. Todd Wade, Zach Weigert, Steve McKinney, Chester Pitts, and Seth Wand. Add to that TE Bruener and FB Norris and I'd love to know how you plan on getting by those guys. Wand is the only question mark, and he's done well against premeire pass rushers such as Jason Taylor, Simeon Rice, and Trevor Pryce. As I stated before I just hope you Chargers fans show up Monday after your team's loss, and take your just desserts. Good luck with the rest of the season, because you guys will need it.
chargers have arguably the best TE in the game in antonio gates and thats not just homer talk. and you know how a corner blitz works so dont play stupid. we have the most depth at linebacker in the afc and thats not just my opinion go on espn and check it out... but thats all paper talk... bottom line is we have more and better playmakers than you... i wouldnt put andre johnson over erik parker... and corey bradford is shut down by jammer so thats a non factor you have no1 like LT nobody does really but you definetly dont... LT can take over a game easily... look at the New england game of 2002... their first loss after winning the SB or ask oakland how hard it is to stop LT. I just think we are a better squad than you i'll be here monday to explain why the texans lost
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Parker over AJ? Come on now. Is the smog over LA drifting down to San Diego? I'm sure you'd take Brees over Carr as well. Have fun with your cast offs from other teams (Oben, Foley, etc.) and try and assure yourself that you have starting caliber guys. The savior for your defense is Phillips who was cast off from the hopeless Falcons last season. Exactly how did he help their young secondary last year? If I remember correctly the were torched all season long. I'd give your team a shot of winning if it had a winning organization. Sadly it doesn't have that, and unless you find a way to fire your owner I don't see it changing anytime soon. I guess Eli Manning had no idea of what he was talking about when he refused to go there. Can't say I blame him. Either way I will be glad to see you eat your remarks come Monday, and if you show up then you'll have earned our respect.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
SDBoltz said:
Might want to tell that to the Wild Card standings. Or to the Giants for that matter. You're not even the 3rd best team in your state. Oakland, San Fran (who have 1 pitcher and 1 hitter), and Dodgers.
RTP2110
All Pro
swisher said:
These Charger fans don't understand that we know what it's like to be an underdog, and try to prove to the other team's fans that your team does have a chance to win. We've been doing it for the last 2 years. That's why nobody here is looking past the Chargers. We've beaten a few favored teams on opening days before, we know what can happen.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
SDBoltz said:
I guess Todd Heap and Tony Gonzales don't even need to show up this season.
Gates is a good TE, and he is arguably the 3rd best TE in the AFC. What's with keeping Lemon as a QB anyway? Does your coach have that little faith in his other QBs or are you trying to swing a trade for Flutie? What about Dyson? He must have been in bad shape if he wasn't able to make the Chargers roster as a WR.the amount of talent you have doesnt matter that much it really doesnt.. it matters that your a cohesive team.. the chargers team in 2002 shoulda have went dep into the playoffs but didnt a lesser team in 92 and 94 went deep into the playoffs because they played better together... we had a big play receiver in david boston but that seemed to make us worse. i can honestly say we are more of a team this year than we have been in the past alot of these young guys have grown together these last couple of years through the good and bad and this year i think they will surprise some people including you texan fans
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Avoiding your gross exaggerations I see. I won't comment about the Chargers team chemistry because I don't follow them closely enough to comment. I highly doubt you have followed the Texans closely enough to comment on their team chemistry either. That leaves us with talking talent, and talking about 'on paper' scenarios until Sunday. The Texans have shown heart throughout our history, and I feel the team chemistry on our team is great. I'm sure many others will agree with me on that. Have fun watching the game, but unfortunately you won't emerge with a 'W'.
brickmantexanfan
Waterboy
jhawktx said:
WHAT HE SAID.
if you deny that gates isnt an elite TE your an ***** or ignorant most likely the latter but its all good. you will find out sunday when your sayin to yourself... wow that was a nice catch or maybe for some of you smug fans a "lucky" catch ha whatever the case is you will know gates talents by the end of this game and just look at the games he started in last year and you will see what i am talking about. actually dont do that just look sunday after he catches a couple td's on you and forces you to take out you 8 and 9 man fronts. brees is an accurate passer i believe he just had an off year last year. and as far as erik parker goes you guys sayin you let him go... why are you clowning yourself anyone with any nfl sense knows that parker is a playmaker.
just a question how much did it hurt to see the titans in the super bowl in 99?? not joking just wondering if it was particularly painful and if it still hurts. because i gotta admit back in the early 90's and "the house of pain" with moon givens haywood jeffries you guys had a pretty good squad used to watch em all the time when i was out in sugarland. and do you have a hatred for the titans now???
Lucky said:Well, Texan fans are just naturally confident. That happens when your team never loses an opening game.
Believe me, you don't have to remind Texans fans about the 1st loss in team history. I pretty sure David Carr remembers being sacked 9 times in the 2nd game in franchise history. Don't expect that the Chargers will walk into the loudest stadium in the NFL with warm applause. Take a pound of flesh, you owe a pound of flesh.
As far as the logic used to explain why the Chargers should win, I'm not following you. The Chargers defense used to be good, now it's not. The team used to be average, now it's not. The Chargers had injuries and...wait, hold it right there. The 2nd year Texans led the NFL in players on IR in '03. And they still had a better record than the Chargers. You can't play the injury card here in Houston, my friend.
Look I respect Tomlinson, he's a great back. Considering the lack of talent around him, his production is legendary. I respect Marty, Wade, and the Chargers coaching staff. Given the time and the talent, I think they'll turn this team around. I don't think they'll get the time, but that's for another time & another thread. The Chargers are rebuilding, just as the Texans have been building for the past 2 seasons. The Texans are just a year or so ahead of the curve than the Chargers are. The Chargers have maybe 3 players on defense, and only 1 player on offense that would start on this Texan team.
Homefield, motivation, talent...the Texans have the edge. I believe in the adage "On any given Sunday..." Just not this Sunday.
Sorry Lucky! stats are more than black n white. alot of your injured were back ups anyway.There has never been a team in the NFL history that has had more starters down at the same time than us fortunate chargers.Every starting O-line man includeing 2 backup O-lineman and all 3 recievers at the same time.That was just offense, I don't need to tell you how jacked up we were on D.yes, everyteam deals with injury but we realy got bent over last year on it,so we can play the injury card here.as for one of the other posters,what games are you watching where BREEZ plays third and fouth stringers.He's on the first team and that's who plays against.
P.S. I wish well for the Texans this year too! just not against us....lol Carr is my boy, Go bulldogs!!!
ok first things first our oline is better without a doubt just compare this year's line to last years and you can see that. marcellus wiley has/had talent i dunno what happened to it with just 3 sacks last year there was a reason we let him go 2 of them came in the last game against the raiders. i'm sure igor olshansky will exceed that total not to mention a 10 sack season from ben leber from k state. he has the speed to cover a te and he can attack the qb as he did when you guys came to san diego... we can stop the run. you have a good back.... nothing we havent seen b4 considering we had a division with Lt holmes and portis last year... persoanlly i would rather have charlie garner than DD. but thats just me.. i hope his blitz pick up skills are as good as some of you rave about or else your in for another long day against us
ya there really was no question that brees should be starting i mean rivers looked just like what he is.. a rookie in the pre seasn. and brees looked great. I mean LT didnt play the pre season but still we looked pretty good i know with LT we are that much better. and i know LT with fresh legs in week 1 will run rampant through the texans or anyone's D for that matter
texasguy346
Mod Squad
lol who cares who picks who in that case i got 75 people over this way that say the chargers win. personally 4.5 point spread is ridiculous texans are not a good team playoff team maybe because you dont have to be good to make the playoffs nowadays but this is either goin to be a clsoe game or blowout win for the chargers if texans get down by double digits you know marty is goin to pound tomlinson and its not like you stop him for 3 yards and we punt.. he gashes you 7 yards 15 yards and will break 25 plus yard runs every game... i mena he did average 5.3 yards a carry.... getting the ball a ton of times..... so imagine we get the ball first and he just does his average... thats a first down every 2 plays.... and you better hope that doesnt happen because its not like marty is afraid to run 12 straight runs... look at the raiders game last year for more info.. LT will line up in the slot as well... and erik parker will run reverses... he is a great punt returner as well although you can anticipate a punt ret TD unless its dante hall.
texasguy346
Mod Squad
Need we remind you of his average against 3-4 teams. Unless you have a cloning machine, and you happen to clone LT a few times then you're team is going to get a loss. You toss up Gates as one of the best TE's in the league, and Lucky shows you otherwise. Whats next? Brees one of the best QBs in the AFC? Or better yet how bout Marty for Coach of the Year? Please. I'm done with the smack talk till game day with you at least. You've already proven yourself a sad excuse for a fan in another post (wishing for injuries to all the Texans players) 
I can only assume you're wishing for something like this so another team suffers as yours does. If not for ShockU I'd have reason to believe all Chargers fans are as immature and ignorant as you. When you can support your 'one sentence rants' then you'll once again be worthy of a response, but since I don't see that happening anytime soon I'll spend my time addressing intelligent posters.
I can only assume you're wishing for something like this so another team suffers as yours does. If not for ShockU I'd have reason to believe all Chargers fans are as immature and ignorant as you. When you can support your 'one sentence rants' then you'll once again be worthy of a response, but since I don't see that happening anytime soon I'll spend my time addressing intelligent posters.anyways 3-4 defense 4-3 matters not... ok so he got 80 sumthin yards against you last time.. we had the game in the bag. as for what i said earlier it was a joke get over it. and yes i was upset that he only got 105 on the ravens defense.. but then again they are a damn good defense... not to mention he broke 2 ray lewis tackles and drug him for 4 yards. i dont see any ray lewis' or elite players on your teams defense. Certainly noone capable of stopping LT. That's the difference Davis can be stopped LT can be contained to 100 yards or so. The key to the game is who will play the best run defense. The chargers are more likely to do so. I dont see a texans blowout which means he wil lbe a factor the whole game. Last year we were out of so many games by half time he couldnt get his yards. While any team is capable of doing this to another its not likely the texans are going to do this against the lightning boltz
HoustonTexans4Life
Noob
SDBoltz said:
So you think corey will be shut down bye "Jammer" WHO ??? And LT may be good but he miswell be out there by himself. Did i hear you say the best depth at linebacker also ,,,,come on you got one of or BACK UPS from last year on yalls team (key word beign back up) !!!! L.T is gonna feel pretty bad when our Rookie Babin shuts him down cause yalls line sucks. And when Andre and Corey burn yall deep dont be suprised.....So you be sure to be back monday i'll have a new thread going so you can publicy apologize for beign ignorant.
HJam72
Hall of Fame
SDBoltz said:
Huh? What did he say? How many freakin' mistakes are in this paragraph? I don't mean to just pick on the Bolts guy either, because I think we all need to try a little harder to write legibly. I'm no English teacher, but I try, at least. Remember, we have to read a lot of posts to see what's being said and we don't want to spend so much time deciphering yours (whoever you happen to be). It's excruciating. eek:
HJam72
Hall of Fame
O yah I wanted to say also that the TXs will kil the boltz they wil win the Sugar Bole they will roll on the Charshers i can feel it you know what i meen im not kiding lt will have 500 yds and they still loos to us wee gon beet dem like san fran did in sb it will happen that coach bits you now im rite about 2moro u wil dye 
HoustonTexans4Life
Noob
Hmm i THINK what he said was that L.T is gonna run all over us,,,,i think he thinks he's Ray Lewis 
. Sounds like he said somethink about Davis Getting shut down by a ghost defense or something cause i know that the one they have cant do it. I dunno man you know chargers fans are all a little wacky but thats nuts. God HELP them !!!!
. Sounds like he said somethink about Davis Getting shut down by a ghost defense or something cause i know that the one they have cant do it. I dunno man you know chargers fans are all a little wacky but thats nuts. God HELP them !!!!DominatorDavis
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Practice Squad
As a Chargers fan, I'm embarrassed to say SDBoltz is on my side.
Bubba, get a spell checker. Get some grammatical tutoring ..... ugh ...
I'll be at the game, showing my Bolts' colors. I'll come back in here, win or lose.
I want a clean, injury free game, with a win for my Chargers.
Bubba, get a spell checker. Get some grammatical tutoring ..... ugh ...
I'll be at the game, showing my Bolts' colors. I'll come back in here, win or lose.
I want a clean, injury free game, with a win for my Chargers.
Huh? I just checked how many games the Chargers starters missed last year:SHOCKU said:
Vaughn Parker - RT - 13 games
Jason Ball - C - 8 games
Soloman Page - RG - 6 games
Damon McIntosh - LT - 4 games
David Boston - WR - 2 games
Raylee Johnson - RDE - 7 games (and Dingle had won the RDE spot anyway)
Jamal Williams - LDT - 1 game
If your point is that the Chargers missed these guys so badly last season that they only won 4 games, I ask what's changed? Jamal Williams is the only player San Diego brought back, and he missed a grand total of 1 game.
In contrast, take a look at some of the players the Texans missed last year.
Seth Payne - NT - 14 games
Gary Walker - DE - 12 games
Aaron Glenn - CB - 5 games (and hobbled all year with a nagging hamstring)
David Carr - QB - Missed all or parts of 7 games
Those aren't throwaway players, that's the heart of the team. And yes, the Texans lost backups to injury. Do you think that's OK? Tony Banks went down while subbing for Carr, the Texans had to start their 3rd string rookie QB for 2 games. CB Kenny Wright went down while subbing for Glenn, then Petey Faggins went out subbing for Wright. How about having to play your 4th string CB? Not to mention when reserves like Ramon Walker are lost, that doesn't exactly help the special teams.
The 5-11 Texans could and probably would have won more games without the massive injury toll. The Chargers were going to be a 4-12 team, regardless. Losses like Page and Vaughn are so inconsequential, it's ridiculous. These guys are no longer in the league. Comparing the Chargers injuries in '03 to the Texans injuries is laughable.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
This will be the BEST TEXANS team to date, season opener, home game. If you mean the sky is falling it could be Hurricane IVAN, but that would be Florida. The last I checked this is tomorrows forcast- Sunday: Sunny, with a high around 94. East wind around 5 mph.
I really hope for some competitivness it makes the drama more intriquing, we want the Chargers and their fans to have hope & purpose because in the end that will make it more enjoyable spanking em
I really hope for some competitivness it makes the drama more intriquing, we want the Chargers and their fans to have hope & purpose because in the end that will make it more enjoyable spanking em
Fiddy
All Pro
No, my avatar for a couple of months was Kevin Dyson getting tackled at the goal line...SDBoltz said:
But back to the Chargers vs. Texans
(Didnt see this stat posted but you will laugh and wont be surprised)
Andre Johnson, in his rookie season, had more receptions and yards then the two WRs the Chargers are going to start Sunday (according to the depth chart on your offical site) in their entire careers!!!
AJ last year - 1 year, 66 rec., 976 yards
Caldwell and Parkers career stats combined - 4 years, 65 rec., 800 yards
