Capers on the hot seat

[AcresHomesTexan]

As long as the misstatement is expressed in an opinionated fashion then what's the difference?
If I were forcing my opinion as though it were facts, then that could be problematic.

sorry to jump in but,

it is the difference between someone taking your opinion seriously (even on message boards) and just dismissing it. You can have an opinion, but if the facts don't hold up this opinion, the time you have a more valid opinion the reader will ignore what could be pretty nice insight on a situation.

 

[Big B Texan Fan]

"In my opinion the Texans are a baseball team". Is that what you are saying as valid as long as it is couched right?

You know that some opinions aren't worth arguing.
But then I'd give you facts to sway such a crazy opinion.
When I said that the Texans only use 25% of their plays what facts do you have to prove that my usage of %'s is wrong other than just playing devils' advocate. You see, It's not a crazy opinion, just one that you disagree with.
All I'm saying is that I believe they aren't using all their plays on purpose. Regardless of what % or # I throw out there. I was just merely trying to keep this thread going in defense of Capers' not being on the hot seat.

 

[Vinny]

You know that some opinions aren't worth arguing.
But then I'd give you facts to sway such a crazy opinion.
When I said that the Texans only use 25% of their plays what facts do you have to prove that my usage of %'s is wrong other than just playing devils' advocate. You see, It's not a crazy opinion, just one that you disagree with.
All I'm saying is that I believe they aren't using all their plays on purpose. Regardless of what % or # I throw out there. I was just merely trying to keep this thread going in defense of Capers' not being on the hot seat.

When Chris Palmer says that the team is using over 75% of the playbook (and he has), that turns your 'opinion' into a misstatement.

 

[Big B Texan Fan]

When Chris Palmer says that the team is using over 75% of the playbook (and he has), that turns your 'opinion' into a misstatement.

No, it turns my opinion into an opinion that needs to be explained/backed up. I remember when Palmer said that.
You cannot believe everything you hear. Hence all the smokescreen play that goes on leading up to the draft. The same smokescreen stuff goes on during the season, pre-season, playoffs, and in between mini-camp and training camp. Why do you think we can't go to ALL the practices
IYO do you really believe they've used 75% of their playbook or was it way to keep the media from starting the "Carr's too dumb to swallow the entire playbook" controversy?
Is the remaining 25% all the new timing routes we're installing?
Or is it us saying that we're gonna put 'Dre in motion more?
That sounds to me like it'd need to be more than 25%.
But that's just me. In My Opinion.

 

[TEXANRED]

When Chris Palmer says that the team is using over 75% of the playbook (and he has), that turns your 'opinion' into a misstatement.

Yea and bush said there are weapons of mass destruction but do we belive him?

I dont think capers is in the hot seat. I think we will change coordinators first. If the D isnt in the top twelve or the sack totals dont improve I would think Hoak(is that the spelling?) will take over and if the offense dosent improve then i expect to see palmer gone.

The feeling i get capers will be the last to go.

But that is just my opinion. I could be wrong or at least that is what my wife tells me.

 

[Vinny]

Yea and bush said there are weapons of mass destruction but do we belive him?

If the man who runs the offense says that they are using most of the playbook, I'll assume he isn't lying and I'll take his word over some stranger being cute on a message board. I like to share what I know about the team here but when I hear you guys state things that are not true I feel I should speak up.

 

[Vinny]

No, it turns my opinion into an opinion that needs to be explained/backed up. I remember when Palmer said that.
You cannot believe everything you hear.

Palmer has no reason to lie about this. He isn't trying to trick the fans. What you are doing is taking his statement and exchanging it with fantasy for the purpose of supporting your argument.

 

[donbmt]

Back to the original question, McNair said this is a five year plan, so just like Palmer, there is no reason not to believe it. Capers is safe through '06.

 

[Big B Texan Fan]

Palmer has no reason to lie about this. He isn't trying to trick the fans. What you are doing is taking his statement and exchanging it with fantasy for the purpose of supporting your argument.

Well it's obvious that we both love football, you know/have a little more insight to the team than me, and I should think B-4 I speak/type. And that you think I'm a "cute stranger".
Our opinion on how the game is ran though is different yet we both know that none of it really matters once the ball is snapped.
I guess I'm more on the side of the fence that believes that the coaches will say some deceptive things to the fans/media to gain a leg up on the competition.
Whether Palmer is lying or not, he has plenty of reasons to lie if he wanted. Tricking the fans becomes a non-issue to the fans if you win.
And of course I'd exchange his statement with fantasy/my opinion (gee thanx) to support my arguement. Their playcalling/formation selection was numbing by mid-season (to me) and like I said about 4 posts ago, I STRONGLY believe they haven't used all their plays, on purpose.

 

[TEXANRED]

If the man who runs the offense says that they are using most of the playbook, I'll assume he isn't lying and I'll take his word over some stranger being cute on a message board. I like to share what I know about the team here but when I hear you guys state things that are not true I feel I should speak up.

I was just kidding trying to keep the mood light. Nothing personal.

Lets think of it this way, maybe he is using 75% of the play book. Lets count, one run right, one run left, one run up the middle, one full back up the middle, quick throw to Andre, one throw to DD in the flat, punt. Well out of 10 id say that is somewhere around 75%.

 

[HJam72]

Is Buddy Ryan still available?

Buddy Ryan? Does the the score 35-3 mean anything to you? How 'bout 38-41? OK, how 'bout PREVENT DEFENSE or Buddy Ryan hitting the OC? Buddy Ryan, yeah there's a fan favorite for ya.

 

[HJam72]

I was just kidding trying to keep the mood light. Nothing personal.

Lets think of it this way, maybe he is using 75% of the play book. Lets count, one run right, one run left, one run up the middle, one full back up the middle, quick throw to Andre, one throw to DD in the flat, punt. Well out of 10 id say that is somewhere around 75%.

No, the 3 runs between the tackles and quick out to Andre is it. That's 75% of the playbook, lol. Come 9-11 they'll add the dump off to DD and a QB scramble.

PS. The scramble will take up all of Carr's practice time between now and the Buffalo game.

 

[Lucky]

Buddy Ryan? Does the the score 35-3 mean anything to you? How 'bout 38-41? OK, how 'bout PREVENT DEFENSE or Buddy Ryan hitting the OC? Buddy Ryan, yeah there's a fan favorite for ya.

Buddy Ryan wasn't the DC during the Buffalo comeback. That was Jim Eddy. And Eddy took too much heat for the loss. You know, most teams play zone defense when up by 32 mid-way into the 3rd quarter. They just don't play it as badly as the Oilers did that day.

Ryan was the DC the following season when the Oilers lost in the playoffs to Montana & the Chiefs in the Dome. Thanks for bring this stuff up. I'm going to cry now.

 

[bckey]

Bebes 5 yard out of bounds and then coming back in and catching a td pass is what got me. Ok Pardees clapping (trying to positively reinforce the players)and combing his hair over with his hand bothered me too.OK and holding Givens around the waste in OT so he couldn't catch the ball and no call from the ref. OK and.... oh just forget it. Thanks for stiring up those memories of the chuck and duck no TE can't run time off the clock offense.