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Cam Newton in Bad Car Accident
- Thread starter Hookem Horns
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Funny how things get blown out of whack. They were reporting here on the local sports station that he broke both legs, then come back 10 minutes later to say that he wasn't injured. Hopefully he is OK.
Maybe he forgot his cape.
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Pretty nasty looking/sounding. Supposedly rolled that truck a few times.
Good thing he didn't roll that thing OFF the bridge. He probably wouldn't have survived that.
Just heard on the triple threat (610) that contrary to the report that said he rolled it, video shows it just went on it's side and slid
The roof is crushed down. I think it had to have rolled. A witness said it rolled 2-3 times
Looks like it, just reporting on what they said. Perhaps the video picked up after the roll
I got in a fender bender with very minor injuries a few years back and they put me on a stretcher. Just precautionary in case of potential neck/spine injuries.
infantrycak
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I wonder if he ever used his truck or just had it jacked up and dangerous for looks.
eriadoc
Texan-American
Seems to me if you ever planned on using such a vehicle for the intended purpose, you'd invest in a real roll bar/cage.
Must have been going at a fairly high speed then
Just saw this quote from a Carolina Panthers fan ...
:kubepalm:
:kubepalm:
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
I didn't think that was him. I'm not sure the truck was the vehicle he was driving.
But I'm probably wrong.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
A 4X4 with a lift is dangerous? If so, a large percentage of Texas is driving dangerous trucks.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Yes they are - and thinking they're safe.
Showtime100
Got JJ?
Yeah. Geoff Somethingoranother from yahoo sports radio says he just saw a tweet saying he's out this Sunday.
Add grain of salt.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
I don't think they are. If they're built correctly they're just as safe as any 4X4 lifted from the manufacturer.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Don't want to get into a long thing on it but it's simple physics. That equipment is for very specific purposes none of it having to do with street safety. There's no getting around that a higher center of gravity, harder rubber, smaller contact patch, higher rotating mass and higher overall mass all make for a less safe street vehicle.
Absolutely .... Especially at highway speeds or above , that high center of gravity makes them very susceptible to rolling with quick input.
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HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
Yes, the higher center of gravity is obvious. I guess I have a different opinion of dangerous when it comes to vehicles. What I consider dangerous are the Smart Car, Miatas, Soul, Sportage and the other little box looking things on the road.
I'd much rather be in that truck in this accident than one of the cars I listed above.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
It is much like my daughter's accident. Her little car just clipped a jeep that rolled over due to the high center of gravity and threw out the passenger. Her car lost a bumper. The speed was <40 MPH. If I were in a head on, I'd agree that more mass is better, but not high mass, low mass.
infantrycak
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With today's cars bigger is not safer.
And the best way to minimize an accident is to be able to maneuverable enough avoid it entirely or greatly reduce it.
And the best way to minimize an accident is to be able to maneuverable enough avoid it entirely or greatly reduce it.
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htowntexans1985
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Could have been much worse by the looks of it. Wonder who had the right of way.
michaelm
vox nihili
Smaller contact patch?
My lifted Yukon has tires that are both larger diameter and wider than OEM.
Hard to figure how that results in a smaller contact patch.
Maybe mud terrain tires are not radials, so less contact?
michaelm
vox nihili
Also, I've been wondering if they're actually softer. They leave a lot of black tracks in my driveway unlike any others I've had.
Marshall
Not pretty, but ALIVE!
It helps to have oversize tires, but it's a trade off for raising the center of gravity. It did not appear that Cam's vehicle had much to offset the high center of gravity (only slightly oversized tires) or protection (real roll bar) in case of a rollover. This is what makes it so dangerous
infantrycak
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Off-road tires have more cut-out/blocking than street use tires and therefore a smaller contact patch for the same size tire.
michaelm
vox nihili
Doh! Figured it was something i wasn't considering.
On the other hand, if this is dangerous, then sign me up and call Will Robinson.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
The absolute safest car you would ever drive looks exactly the opposite:
[IMGwidthsize=700]http://cdn-www.rsportscars.com/images/formula-1/2008-vodafone-mclaren-mercedes-mp4-23-formula-1-car/mcf108_051600.jpg[/IMG]
Look, a big part of this discussion is the portion the big truck advocates never consider - not getting into an accident in the first place.
[IMGwidthsize=700]http://cdn-www.rsportscars.com/images/formula-1/2008-vodafone-mclaren-mercedes-mp4-23-formula-1-car/mcf108_051600.jpg[/IMG]
Look, a big part of this discussion is the portion the big truck advocates never consider - not getting into an accident in the first place.
michaelm
vox nihili
Sure, until it ran into a truck like this:
BTW, that truck is my daily driver family truckster with a rear facing child seat. It has been in the mud more times that the wife would like. lol
:ahem:
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Sure, until it ran into a truck like this:
It's designed to run into walls. It's not scared of trucks.
I'll just remind you of the implicit statement in my original question - I have no problem with people who need and/or use off-road vehicles for their intended purpose including if they use them in a dual role. But posers whether they be on sportbikes or in big jacked up 4x4's that never see dirt - well they're posers. And the rationalization of safety is just that (and at the expense of safety to others).
Exactly.
As an aside, I really like Formula 1 racing. They are going to have a new series - Formula E - of all electric cars. Should be interesting.
HOU-TEX
Ah, Football!
It's designed to run into walls. It's not scared of trucks.
I'll just remind you of the implicit statement in my original question - I have no problem with people who need and/or use off-road vehicles for their intended purpose including if they use them in a dual role. But posers whether they be on sportbikes or in big jacked up 4x4's that never see dirt - well they're posers. And the rationalization of safety is just that (and at the expense of safety to others).
This, I completely agree with. I usually laugh at the one's who buy the F250-350 diesels, jack them up to the Heavens and never see a speck of dirt due to spit polishing every 5 minutes. Little dick syndrome
Now, would you rather your child (hypothetically) drive a ride like Michaelm posted (nice ride, man)? Or like the thing you posted?
Either way, I'll stick with my daily driver truck and my big ass hunting rig (that I built myself) while y'all cruise your Prius
infantrycak
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Yeah, not a Prius.
I tell my non-hypothetical kids the same thing. If you don't need something bigger for its utility, drive a small high performance car...and when you're braking keep your eyes on your rear view to make sure you aren't about to be run down by some truck that can't brake.
Even goofier when those same doofuses stop to go over speed bump in parking lots. Same for SUVs that are timid about small bumps.
Whatever...
I like what I like. I've got a 2002 Z66 Avalanche. It's a two wheel drive truck that has the Z71 suspension. & I'm thinking about jacking it up, because I like the way it looks. I'll never go off-road, I know that. But it's what I like. I couldn't care less what you or anyone else thinks about the car I drive.