Bush may forfeit Heisman to Young

[PapaL]

Well they put their name in the driveway and moved in shortly after it was built. So, it doesn't seem like the typical rental situation. The Yahoo guy who broke it said in an interview on Cold Pizza today that he's been researching it for a good while and didn't find anything that led him to believe it wasn't a free stay or something to that effect.

Once I carved my name in a tree in an apartment complex I lived at, does that the whole complex mine? Another time I put my hand print on a patch of wet cement on the sidewalk, do I own it now? Making a mountain out of a mole hill here people.

 

[Caphorn]

It's not just a case of 2 mph over the speed limit. We're looking at accepting a $750K home from an agent that they f'n etched their name in the sidewalk (not a temporary lease situation). If this goes unpunished, then the NCAA is truly a joke and its rules (about not taking money or other gifts or renumeration from a professional sports agent) are irrelevent. I personally think this reflects badly on Reggie Bush (blaming this solely on the family is just too convenient and it's naive). It is without question worse than anything said about Vince. This is a character and honesty issue - not a question of Wonderlik scores or 40 times. It's similar to the Clarett situation in that Reggie went along with this deal at great risk to his own career and worse - at risk to the team he was playing for. I really think you have to question the value Bush brings to the table overall. I'm honestly not sure that he's a real "team" guy. And the value of good chemistry should not be understated. From a safer pick perspective, this makes me more interested in a guy like Mario Williams.

 

[Caphorn]

Once I carved my name in a tree in an apartment complex I lived at, does that the whole complex mine? Another time I put my hand print on a patch of wet cement on the sidewalk, do I own it now? Making a mountain out of a mole hill here people.

Full grown adults put their family name and date in the driveway concrete of the house they were renting??? Is this what you were saying?? Obviously, they were intending to keep this house. That's the point. My landlord would have sh!t a brick if I'd put my name on a permanent block of concrete in the front of his house.

Maybe it's a molehill to fans of professional sports - and maybe it doesn't affect the Texans decision. But it does raise honest questions about this guy's character. This would have been treated MUCH DIFFERENTLY if this deal had been uncovered prior to the Rose Bowl. Reggie likely would have been suspended from the game pending the investigation. A good teammate doesn't pull sh!t like this before a big game. Honestly he allegedly did this - accepting value from a sports agent - even before USC's season started. Sorry for the rant, but I am surprised how quickly people have come to accept this crap (mostly for reasons of skepticism or some odd sympathy for these future millionaires).

 

[mexican_texan]

We should draft Vince Young because he doesn't make deals with the devil like Reggie.

 

[Marcus]

Yes cheater may not be the operable word. Maybe we can use the following to placate your semantic palate- rulebreaker, dishonest, trickster, deceiver, beguiler, slickster.

Call him a low life if you want, just get used to him being a Houston Texan. It ain't gonna effect his draft status, so all you VY humpers can choke on your false hopes.

 

[PapaL]

Full grown adults put their family name and date in the driveway concrete of the house they were renting??? Is this what you were saying?? Obviously, they were intending to keep this house. That's the point. My landlord would have sh!t a brick if I'd put my name on a permanent block of concrete in the front of his house.

Which one of these three is more likely to write something in cement?

Maybe it's a molehill to fans of professional sports - and maybe it doesn't affect the Texans decision. But it does raise honest questions about this guy's character. This would have been treated MUCH DIFFERENTLY if this deal had been uncovered prior to the Rose Bowl. Reggie likely would have been suspended from the game pending the investigation. A good teammate doesn't pull sh!t like this before a big game. Honestly he allegedly did this - accepting value from a sports agent - even before USC's season started. Sorry for the rant, but I am surprised how quickly people have come to accept this crap (mostly for reasons of skepticism or some odd sympathy for these future millionaires).

HE accepted nothing, he was probably living in the dorms at the time. If the story would have broken a week before the Rose Bowl, he still would have started it and his parents would have been benched. Lets stick to something with substance; did he murder someone, claim things were stolen, beat his girlfriend, get high durning a game, get a hooker and a DUI before kickoff? Please. Hate'em or love'em, he's still going to be on top (of the draft).

 

[Mike Kerns]

Call him a low life if you want, just get used to him being a Houston Texan. It ain't gonna effect his draft status, so all you VY humpers can choke on your false hopes.

 

[kastofsna]

Which one of these three is more likely to write something in cement?

craig james?

 

[BradK10]

Big B man you're classless. Call the guy a chump if he runs away, but the guy has showed up for every interview and answered every question. He didn't "cheat" the NCAA. He didn't accept payment to go to USC. California state government should revoke this agents license. Unfortunately agents aren't governed real well. If he's a lawyer, which many agents are, he's also expected to live up to the ethical code that lawyers have. Not saying there is no guilt to Reggie, or I'm not crying that "he's the victim," but there are some shady M.F.'s out there who just look out for their own selfless interest who screw it up for everyone.

 

[Sarg01]

It's not just a case of 2 mph over the speed limit.

Good point. There is a difference. Speeding is a crime, and this is not.

We're looking at accepting a $750K home from an agent that they f'n etched their name in the sidewalk (not a temporary lease situation).

If it weren't for the travel, I'd fix the etching for $100. Make a sweet profit on it, too. We ARE talking about a temporary lease. They did not get the title. They no longer live there.

If this goes unpunished, then the NCAA is truly a joke and its rules (about not taking money or other gifts or renumeration from a professional sports agent) are irrelevent.

True, but they were already a joke and irrelevant. I'd imagine the number of NFL-destined players who've gotten deals/gifts/"bell curve"/sex/whatever in recruiting efforts (either by the school or by the agents) is upwards of 50%.

I personally think this reflects badly on Reggie Bush (blaming this solely on the family is just too convenient and it's naive). It is without question worse than anything said about Vince. This is a character and honesty issue - not a question of Wonderlik scores or 40 times.

I don't care about Vince, since the Texans won't be drafting a first-day QB. What's he got to do with anything?

I really think you have to question the value Bush brings to the table overall. I'm honestly not sure that he's a real "team" guy.

That's a big stretch. Professional sports players are constantly accused of actual crimes. Now that would worry me, assuming it was a "big" crime and not speeding

 

[BradK10]

Ha, whoever said the NCAA would become joke hasn't been around long. They already are a joke. There is absolutely ZERO consistency to their investigations and/or punishments

 

[kastofsna]

Ha, whoever said the NCAA would become joke hasn't been around long. They already are a joke. There is absolutely ZERO consistency to their investigations and/or punishments

bingo. exactly why USC won't get in any trouble. if they were troy state or alabama a&m or a non-moneymaker they'd be all over them.

 

[Texans86]

bingo. exactly why USC won't get in any trouble. if they were troy state or alabama a&m or a non-moneymaker they'd be all over them.

Or Baylor, who got the equivelent of the basketball death penalty. I think its five years no postseason. And this past year they couldn't play anyone outside of the Big 12. Also happened to SMU football team a little while back I believe. I'm wondering when a big time contender will get something like this.

 

[kastofsna]

Or Baylor, who got the equivelent of the basketball death penalty. I think its five years no postseason. And this past year they couldn't play anyone outside of the Big 12. Also happened to SMU football team a little while back I believe. I'm wondering when a big time contender will get something like this.

hasn't ohio state had a few instances of this just in the past few years? i know troy smith had a little thing that got him disqualified for a bowl game, but since then, nothing. with USC, even less will happen.