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BL Final 2016 Texan Mock Draft

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1st rd. Selection 22 - Ryan Kelly, Center, Alabama, 6-4 311
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Not the sexy pick but the right building block to cement Center position for next 10 years with new "franchise" (we hope) QB Brock Osweiler. Such an important marriage, so to speak, they can grow & develop together in Bill O'Brian's Pro Style offense. Kelly is built like a tank, has good reach, agility/feet, strength & intelligence to make line calls, protect middle of the pocket or open running lanes inside. Best of a very strong class, makes excellent pairing to fill biggest need going forward.


2nd rd. Selection 52 - Austin Johnson, DE/DT, Penn State, 314
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Austin has a shot if drafted by the Texans to play as a 3-4 DE opposite Watt. Hold off on nose tackle for now, though he could certainly fill that role as well, most importantly it points out he is scheme diverse for Crennel's style of defense. Plus familiarity with Head Coach Bill O'Brian. Sterling Shepard came in a strong 2nd but because Austin is just a perfect fit, has a motor to pressure/sack QB's, Crick is gone, JJ has hinted career path & Wilfork is nearing end of his, perfect spot to address need.

3rd rd. Selection 85 - Cyrus Jones, CB/Returner, Alabama, 5-10 197, Alabama
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Elite punt returner poised to make immediate impact next level who adds value as accomplished yet still developing corner, in fact has body of a SS Earl Thomas. All I know is he's a football player & will help his team win anyway he can. Had one off field incident that was dropped couple years ago since then nothing but a model citizen. On this subject, young men often make mistakes in heat of the moment and or show signs of immaturity. A shining example of a troubled but maybe misunderstood athlete was Tyrann Mathieu that has not just become a great NFL defensive playmaker (as he was @ LSU) but a real professional, role model & civic leader, who incidentally fell to the 3rd rd. For the record, I'm consistent in saying Texans special teams must improve, Cryus, not related to Jacoby (I don't think?) would really help cause.


4th rd. Selection 119 - Justin Simmons, FS, Boston College, 6-2 202
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Back to back DB's? Well coached @ BC he has range & length desired for FS position. Not afraid of contact but plays smart, has good hands & productive (finished his BC career with 229 tackles, including 165 unassisted tackles, over 50 games, with four tackles for loss, one sack, 22 pass breakups, four forced fumbles, four fumble recoveries and eight interceptions).

5th rd. Selection 159 - Dean Lowry, DE, Northwestern, 6-6 296

Covering bases here plus adding depth/insurance. Watt won't be playing forever, Johnson could kick inside when Wilfork retires, Covington only proven, limited reps on roster, why not double dip depth of DL class? 2015 All Big 10 Second team, but look who was ahead of him, think he's getting overlooked & Texans would have themselves a steal. 13.5 TKL and invitation to Shriners game, 5th rd. is about what it get's you, depth for now behind Covington on the depth chart.

5th rd. Selection 166 acquired from Patriots - Devon Cajuste, WR/TE, Stanford, 6-4 234
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I've looked at WR position every round but compared to other positions they're just not as good or deep so always chose BPA @ position of need. Same thing goes for TE's this class. So why not combine the two into a hybrid "H-Back" which is what I think he is. He has the frame to fill out, decent speed for TE (4.60) big hands and catches everything. Unfortunately for him the offense went through Heisman candidate, Christian McCaffrey but he still managed to catch 557 yards 6 TD's Junior season & 27 383 yards 3 TD's senior season. Good downfield blocker in pro style offense, appropriate pick given it was the Patriots

6th rd. Selection 195 - Nick Richter, OT, Richmond, 6-6 304

Developmental tackle, has tools to add depth across OL, NFL bloodlines (father Jim Richter who was selected in the first round by the Buffalo Bills, also won Outland Trophy coming out of North Carolina State, started for Bills 1980-1993 then two seasons for Atlanta before retiring 16 years in NFL). Nick went to school in Richmond for the education, but somewhere along the line his bloodlines choose a familiar path, to beat, pummel & protect his craft. I think you can do a lot worse in the 6th rd. than taking a big ole' lineman.


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Give me Leonte Caroo in the 3rd and I would like it alot better.

I understand your theory in this mock and like the players you selected.

I want a greater commitment to building a great young OL.

We just have different theories on the best way to build a team. I'm an in the trenches guy. But I really respect the thought you put into this and love the guys you selected Especially Kelly/Johnson/Lowry/Cajuste
 
Give me Leonte Caroo in the 3rd and I would like it alot better.

I understand your theory in this mock and like the players you selected.

I want a greater commitment to building a great young OL.

We just have different theories on the best way to build a team. I'm an in the trenches guy. But I really respect the thought you put into this and love the guys you selected Especially Kelly/Johnson/Lowry/Cajuste

Thanks, man. Yeah different strokes for different folks.

Ryan Kelly looks both Texan worthy & O'Brian type, he would be in a unique situation if selected by Texans. Double value. By that I mean he adds directly to big free agent off season acquisition Brock Osweiler to solidify QB position. He would get/give every NFL snap, well coached in pro system, has been Center for three different QB's @ Alabama, replaced a big time Barrett Jones (6044 306) as sophomore (showcasing ability to step up to a challenge) has showed improvement every year & has ideal build for position, 6040 311 (Ben Jones was like 6025 303). Travis Frederick (6035 312) was selected by the Cowboys in 2013, 31st overall & never looked back. I get the whole LT thing or adding another big play WR for Texan new QB but wouldn't it be nice to bring in elite talent to bond & build reps together going forward, he adds value directly to Osweiler more than anyone you could argue for, IMO.

http://alabama.247sports.com/Bolt/Alabama-center-Ryan-Kelly-discusses-QB-competition-38804007

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Thanks, man. Yeah different strokes for different folks.

Ryan Kelly looks both Texan worthy & O'Brian type, he would be in a unique situation if selected by Texans. Double value. By that I mean he adds directly to big free agent off season acquisition Brock Osweiler to solidify QB position. He would get/give every NFL snap, well coached in pro system, has been Center for three different QB's @ Alabama, replaced a big time Barrett Jones (6044 306) as sophomore (showcasing ability to step up to a challenge) has showed improvement every year & has ideal build for position, 6040 311 (Ben Jones was like 6025 303). Travis Frederick (6035 312) was selected by the Cowboys in 2013, 31st overall & never looked back. I get the whole LT thing or adding another big play WR for Texan new QB but wouldn't it be nice to bring in elite talent to bond & build reps together going forward, he adds value directly to Osweiler more than anyone you could argue for, IMO.

http://alabama.247sports.com/Bolt/Alabama-center-Ryan-Kelly-discusses-QB-competition-38804007

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If Kelly was the pick at 22 I would be very happy. I think of Kelly as a 10 yr starter and an immediate upgrade over Jones. An interior OL of XSF/Kelly/Allen fixes one of the biggest issues on the Texans, the abilty to convert 3rd and short yd.

Tell me how much better do you think Kelly is than Martin?
 
Like comparing Ben Jones to Travis Frederick. Lol

Martin maybe a good center next level but not elite. Bloodlines aside (Zach) he is not. There are other good center prospects in this draft but currently Texans don't have a starting center & Ryan would hit the ground running. Pick is most beneficial to Brock, that tandem would hopefully solidify Texans offense for years to come. Like I said that's double value & one could argue BPA for this team in the draft. And Texans wouldn't have to shell out multiple drafts picks in return to upgrade QB position with QB/Center tandem of Osweiler & Kelly. Does go hand in hand with next pick another lineman DT/DE Austin Johnson. Build the trenches & then win the war :barman:

Pretty much check off all the boxes for position-

  1. PRO READY
  2. THICK, BARREL CHESTED, EXCELLENT PROPORTION FOR POSITION
  3. CORE STRENGTH
  4. INTELLIGENCE
  5. LEADERSHIP, BY EXAMPLE
  6. WORK ETHIC
  7. FOOTWORK & STRONG HANDS
  8. ALL BUISNESS, WELL SCHOOLED TO BECOME A PRO
  9. NO OFF FIELD ISSUES
  10. PRIOIRTY NEED FOR TEXANS & NEW QB
 
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Not a fan of Alabama OL personally

Fair point, who can forget Antoine Caldwell. But that is also a good example when you wait until later rounds to address need instead of first round.

Physically they might not seem that far apart but what's between the ears is what defines great centers. He's got to be the QB to the OL as well mirror thoughts of the QB.

Far as school generalization my favorite is Wisconsin. With Michigan, Michigan State close behind. Would love to get Conklin & Glasgow combo 1-2.
 
I would love this draft. 2 day one starters who should be upgrades over their predecessors at the top. Jones could replace JJo in a year or 2 and could solve the Texans return woes now.
 
I would love this draft. 2 day one starters who should be upgrades over their predecessors at the top. Jones could replace JJo in a year or 2 and could solve the Texans return woes now.
 
I would love this draft. 2 day one starters who should be upgrades over their predecessors at the top. Jones could replace JJo in a year or 2 and could solve the Texans return woes now.

You think Jones is a better CB than KJo?
 
Fair point, who can forget Antoine Caldwell. But that is also a good example when you wait until later rounds to address need instead of first round.

Physically they might not seem that far apart but what's between the ears is what defines great centers. He's got to be the QB to the OL as well mirror thoughts of the QB.

Far as school generalization my favorite is Wisconsin. With Michigan, Michigan State close behind. Would love to get Conklin & Glasgow combo 1-2.

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This

A Conklin/Glasgow draft in rd would fix the OL for yrs and you can probably get Glasgow in Rd 3. It would be awesome to add, I'm an in the trenches guy.

1.Conklin
2.Johnson
3. Glasgow
4. Caroo
 
I'm all in with Ryan Kelly in the first. I'd rather take Johnson's teammate, Nassib, in the third than Johnson in the second. Or I'd scoop up Ogbah if he is there in the second. I am also completely on board with upgrading our return game. It's embarrassing.
 
You think Jones is a better CB than KJo?
I should be more clear. Joseph, Jackson and Johnson basically all start. 1a 1b and 1c. I assume Joseph will be the first to be cut for financial reasons. Jones would be a candidate to replace him.
 
I'm all in with Ryan Kelly in the first. I'd rather take Johnson's teammate, Nassib, in the third than Johnson in the second. Or I'd scoop up Ogbah if he is there in the second. I am also completely on board with upgrading our return game. It's embarrassing.

Planning a full-on shift to a 4-3, then?
 
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Quick recap-

1. Ryan Kelly maximizes Brock Osweiler signing. Enhancing QB play is everything and it really shouldn't be that Hard. Keep it simple, snap with timing, block with purpose & win point of attack.

2. Went with Austin because he looks like he is a good fit in Crennel 3-4 opposite JJ Watt. DE also happens to be my 2nd biggest need after Center. Of course he can kick inside in passing situations and play some nose he is scheme diverse.

3. Cyrus would be a huge special team addition returning punts & can play nearly every DB position, most likely nickel that is versatility.

4. Justin gives Texans a heady, rangy, FS who is smart & reads routes & QB's with excellent hands.

5c. Lowry is a lot like Nassib but just unheralded. A fine, long developmental 3-4 end for depth & future.

5b. Cajuste is a move TE with good hands, smart & well coached.

6. Got to throw in a developmental OL with final pick, pedigree & work habits off the charts. He will stick in the league 10+ years.

Hard to address every need, no LB or WR just not my favorite class & Texans used 2nd & 3rd round picks respectively in 2015 draft. Y'all have a good one three more days & we'll know who that first pick will be, then day two & day three. Bonus is short week (3 work days) then off all weekend :wesmantexanfan:
 
I like it BL. I'm on board with a center round 1 if the player is worth it. I didn't focus on Kelly when watching Bama and didn't do any individual study of him, so I don't know if he is or not.

I'm a big fan of Justin Simmons, I have him rated in the 3rd round, just above Jeremy Cash. BC has had one of the best defenses in the country the last few years and Simmons was a big reason for that. Versatile player, although not a great athlete. He isn't going to miss a lot of tackles and will come down and make plenty of zero YAC type tackles in the open field, especially on crossers, which is something we need. Good in coverage, although not elite by any means.

I'm all in with Ryan Kelly in the first. I'd rather take Johnson's teammate, Nassib, in the third than Johnson in the second. Or I'd scoop up Ogbah if he is there in the second. I am also completely on board with upgrading our return game. It's embarrassing.

We've missed you, where have you been?

I hate to distract from BL's mock, but what are your thoughts on Kelly, Doctson, Treadwell, Coleman, and Karl Joseph as potential 1st rounders for Texans?

Who are your favorite players in this draft?
 
I like it BL. I'm on board with a center round 1 if the player is worth it. I didn't focus on Kelly when watching Bama and didn't do any individual study of him, so I don't know if he is or not.

I'm a big fan of Justin Simmons, I have him rated in the 3rd round, just above Jeremy Cash. BC has had one of the best defenses in the country the last few years and Simmons was a big reason for that. Versatile player, although not a great athlete. He isn't going to miss a lot of tackles and will come down and make plenty of zero YAC type tackles in the open field, especially on crossers, which is something we need. Good in coverage, although not elite by any means.



We've missed you, where have you been?

I hate to distract from BL's mock, but what are your thoughts on Kelly, Doctson, Treadwell, Coleman, and Karl Joseph as potential 1st rounders for Texans?

Who are your favorite players in this draft?

Not & all. I would like to know as well :ahhaha:

Back to Texan 2016 draft. This will be O'Brian's 3rd as Houston Texans Head Coach. We should really see his fingerprints assertivley applied third go around as he can now plug & play his system as he sees fit.

What exemplifies a Bill O'Brian player? Toughness, work ethic, intelligence, overachiever & player who puts team above himself. Those attributes along with team needs is how this mock was modeled.
 
I like it BL. I'm on board with a center round 1 if the player is worth it. I didn't focus on Kelly when watching Bama and didn't do any individual study of him, so I don't know if he is or not.

I'm a big fan of Justin Simmons, I have him rated in the 3rd round, just above Jeremy Cash. BC has had one of the best defenses in the country the last few years and Simmons was a big reason for that. Versatile player, although not a great athlete. He isn't going to miss a lot of tackles and will come down and make plenty of zero YAC type tackles in the open field, especially on crossers, which is something we need. Good in coverage, although not elite by any means.



We've missed you, where have you been?

I hate to distract from BL's mock, but what are your thoughts on Kelly, Doctson, Treadwell, Coleman, and Karl Joseph as potential 1st rounders for Texans?

Who are your favorite players in this draft?

Thanks. I just lurk these days. I'm not a big fan of the new board's format. If I don't log in for a few days or something, it's impossible to read. The main discussion board has threads that are 50+ pages long that stretch out over 6+ months. It's just a huge turn off considering the amount of hawt takes there are. I generally stick to the college and draft section these days. Otherwise, I'm over at battleredblog where things are at least chronologically organized, and new comments can be sorted easily.

As for my take on the guys listed:
Kelly - Yes. Do it and don't look back. XSF is a question mark. We just lost two starting interior OL. We signed one potential starter and a fringe/depth guy. Kelly has the size, the film, the pedigree, and everything else you want. He's Nick Mangold. It's not sexy, but he is the anchor we need.

Doctson - Really like him. He's the best WR in the draft. His ability to high point the ball is amazing. His injury took away some hype at the end of the season, but he has enough speed to be fine. He runs good routes and catches everything.

Treadwell - Not a huge fan, but wouldn't be that upset. I think he's Mike Williams lite. He doesn't have that same upside, but he's a solid WR who can be a red zone target. I think he's overkill with Strong, but Strong hasn't exactly made his way out of the doghouse yet, so it's possible. I just don't think he's better than Doctson (similar style receiver) and doesn't have that big upside either.

Coleman - I have real reservations about him in the first. He's a slot WR to me. You can put him on the outside on a 9 route and let him take the top off, but he's not an outside WR like Hop and Strong. His numbers are inflated from the system and lack of competition in the bottom half of the conference. He's intriguing, but I see his potential as a slower, not as stocky lower-half, Percy Harven (healthy). A fun player, but someone you have to get creative to get touches to. He's going to be behind on the route tree and blocking just because of where he played. I like him, I just wouldn't draft him in the first.

Joseph - I don't think he's a first rounder, even without the injury. He's an in the box SS without ideal measurables, coupled with an overly aggressive style of play, coupled with an injury that is going to hold him out into the season (misses TC/Preseason/etc) means he's just too much risk. I'd consider him in the third. I wouldn't take him in the first regardless, but he's not really on my list unless he really falls.
 
No, but both of them have enough size to be 3-4 DEs. They won't be able to shift inside, but they can hold the edge and actually apply pressure in a base set.

I think they're both best suited setting up wide and working to get tackles off balance. And they'd both struggle holding the edge against NFL offenses while having someone set up wide of them. They could do these things part time in sub packages, but not full time. Jmo, of course.
 
All picks with exception of last pick gone two or more picks prior ea. rd. less Nick Richter.

Texans went WR heavy early but did realize they needed center. Also addressed return game, safety & nose tackle.
 
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