Badboy's April mock

[badboy]

Not as concerned about a trade as I was.

1. QB Manziel the only thing (ok it's a biggie) was translation to NFL, but to certain extent that is true for all. He killed pro day & while that is not much to hang his hat on, TB sucked and Bortles was just good. He had no off field issues 2013 & turned 21 Dec 6th. Stats are right there with TB including accuracy.

2. LG David Yankey allows Q to move to RT or float. Yankey played 14 @ LT

3. WR Jordan Matthews ranked 69 so fingers crossed

4a. RT Juwaun James best pure RT
b. DE Caruan Reid replaces Ninja before you insist he is DT only, research.

5. RB Tyler Gaffney Stanford 6' 220 4.49 vert 36.5 played 2011 behind Toby Gerhart then played baseball 2012. 2013: 1709, 21 TDs 15 recepts @ 5.7

6a. ILB Preston Brown 6'1 251 Louisville 4.5 sacks 97 T we sign FA vet.
b. NT Ryan Carrethers 6'2 335 not a hog; college wrestler 93 tackles in 2013
c. CB/FS Dontae Johnson 6'2 1/8" 200 38.5 vert 4.45 81 T 3 INTs

7a ILB Andrew Jackson 6'1 257 could be steal of draft. 2011 & '12 avg over 112 Ts 2013 95. plays like Ray Lewis and owns the box.

b Mr. Irrelevant? No way! SS Marquis Flowers: 6' 2 229 4.51 pro day
2011 season[edit]
Flowers moved into the starting free safety position before the 2011 season. He played in all 13 games during that season, and recorded 68 tackles (fourth most on the team), as well as 3 passes defended and an interception.[2]

2012 season[edit]
Flowers transferred to outside linebacker during 2012 training camp.[3] Flowers transitioned well, and maintained relatively the same production that he had during his sophomore season. He finished the year with 100 tackles, 5.5 sacks, three interceptions, 6 passes defended and three forced fumbles, one of which he recovered.[4] Flowers was named the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Week after Arizona's 39-35 win over USC, where he intercepted two passes and recorded a fumble.[5] In the 2012 New Mexico Bowl against Nevada, a 49-48 Arizona win, Flowers recovered a key onside kick that helped Arizona take a 1 point lead with 19 seconds to go. He then intercepted Nevada quarterback Cody Fajardo on the next play, sealing an Arizona victory. For his performance, he was named the defensive most valuable player.[6]

 

[Corrosion]

I like it .... I might change my mind on that top pick in the next five minutes tho.

 

[badboy]

I like it .... I might change my mind on that top pick in the next five minutes tho.

7 minutes what's your pick? lol I had leaned towards Watkins if no trade and had Bortles for a while. Manziel offers too much of what we need to panic. BTW, I do not compare him too anyone.

 

[kiwitexansfan]

I'd rather not pick skill position players as early as you do. But overall I like it, especially Caraun Reid.

 

[Corrosion]

7 minutes what's your pick? lol I had leaned towards Watkins if no trade and had Bortles for a while. Manziel offers too much of what we need to panic. BTW, I do not compare him too anyone.

I'll stick with Manziel for now .... but man , I flipflop like a damn politician between he , Bortles , Bridgewater , Matthews , Watkins , Robinson , Clowney & Mack ... I see star potential & bust potential in most of them.

 

[thunderkyss]

David Yankey with the second pick, I love this draft.... the rest is icing.

1. QB Manziel the only thing (ok it's a biggie) was translation to NFL, but to certain extent that is true for all. He killed pro day & while that is not much to hang his hat on, TB sucked and Bortles was just good. He had no off field issues 2013 & turned 21 Dec 6th. Stats are right there with TB including accuracy.

But let's talk about Manziel.

Obligatory let's get this out of the way material.

I don't want to take any of these QBs with a top 5 pick much less the #1 overall​

Having said that...


I've got to think OB is sitting in a room somewhere thinking to himself, "Can I win a Super Bowl with <-Insert QB name here->"

Bridgewater = maybe
Bortles = maybe
Carr = maybe
Murray = maybe
Mettenberger = maybe
Manziel = yeah, but...

Now that but is, "I'll probably lose my job first"

I'm going to love watching Manziel play in the NFL, more if he's playing for some other team.

 

[Wolf6151]

I'm going to love watching Manziel play in the NFL, more if he's playing for some other team.

My sentiments exactly. I think Manziel will be fun to watch on Sunday's as long as it's for someone else. Manziel also seems to have no middle ground for me, he's either a superstar QB that we wish we had taken, or a bust and gone in a few years.

As for the mock, I like 4a, 6a, 6b, and maybe 7a depending on how he plays on special teams. I can't grade 3 and 5 as I haven't really studied WR and RB much. I don't like Manziel at 1.1, his bust potential is just to high, I don't think he's ready and should have stayed in school at least 1 more year. I'm very ehhh on Yankey, slow feet, needs to bend his knees more, and be more athletic.

Also have you seen the latest CBS rankings for OT's. If you want James you'll have to take him in the 2nd now.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/OT

 

[badboy]

David Yankey with the second pick, I love this draft.... the rest is icing.



But let's talk about Manziel.

Obligatory let's get this out of the way material.

I don't want to take any of these QBs with a top 5 pick much less the #1 overall​

Having said that...


I've got to think OB is sitting in a room somewhere thinking to himself, "Can I win a Super Bowl with <-Insert QB name here->"

Bridgewater = maybe
Bortles = maybe
Carr = maybe
Murray = maybe
Mettenberger = maybe
Manziel = yeah, but...

Now that but is, "I'll probably lose my job first"

I'm going to love watching Manziel play in the NFL, more if he's playing for some other team.

Which 2014 QB is "safe"? You answer your own question with "maybe" so I look for what I know about strengths & imo. Manziel is the guy. Your 4&5 while interesting have huge injuries to overcome. If JM is playing for another team you might not love watching him play for teams playing us...

 

[badboy]

My sentiments exactly. I think Manziel will be fun to watch on Sunday's as long as it's for someone else. Manziel also seems to have no middle ground for me, he's either a superstar QB that we wish we had taken, or a bust and gone in a few years.

As for the mock, I like 4a, 6a, 6b, and maybe 7a depending on how he plays on special teams. I can't grade 3 and 5 as I haven't really studied WR and RB much. I don't like Manziel at 1.1, his bust potential is just to high, I don't think he's ready and should have stayed in school at least 1 more year. I'm very ehhh on Yankey, slow feet, needs to bend his knees more, and be more athletic.

Also have you seen the latest CBS rankings for OT's. If you want James you'll have to take him in the 2nd now.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/OT

Just changed & I guess they are catching up to what I've seen since early season; dude is good. I'm think he will actually drop to late third.

 

[thunderkyss]

Which 2014 QB is "safe"? You answer your own question with "maybe" so I look for what I know about strengths & imo. Manziel is the guy. Your 4&5 while interesting have huge injuries to overcome. If JM is playing for another team you might not love watching him play for teams playing us...

I like Manziel. If any of this batch of QBs is going to win a Super Bowl, I'd put my money on him. That does not mean that I think he's going to win a Super Bowl.

When I see Manziel, I see the next Romo..... a QB I love to watch, because he's pretty dam exciting. But his team has had issues getting over .500 for quite some time. Romo does a lot to get his team in position to win games. He also does a lot to take them out.... but he's great for my fantasy team & he's good entertainment.

If I were a Cowboy fan, he'd drive me crazy. But since I don't care if the Cowboys win or lose, I can enjoy watching him play.

He might be the next Farve, & keep his team in contention, eventually winning a Super Bowl....

Who knows?

 

[beerlover]

Manziel pick makes a ton of sense, kinda comes with the territory. Feel Texans have been wanting to take him just not #1 overall, tough spot to say least.

Yankey adds important element to solidify OL. Maybe Williams returns 100% still he could compete with Wade LG. Like it.

The real JM. Steal & possible here.

Juwaun James after Yankey seems both greedy & optunistic filling OL holes for years to come.

Not sure where Reid fits in Crennel 3-4, seems like Mitchell if nose who they didn't even try to resign. probably rotational DE to spell Watt & Crick, could work.

Gafney is a workhorse, good vision, sound blocking, does have some wear on the tread, but would add quality depth.

ILB Preston Brown, Ryan Carrethers & Dontae Johnson quality depth who knows if you hit with any of these three late that's like a homerun.

Jackson & Flowers. IF helathy could help special teams & possibly crack the roster, at least good PS foder.

Good to see you mocking agian Badboy, keep up the good work

 

[mussop]

Not as concerned about a trade as I was.

1. QB Manziel the only thing (ok it's a biggie) was translation to NFL, but to certain extent that is true for all. He killed pro day & while that is not much to hang his hat on, TB sucked and Bortles was just good. He had no off field issues 2013 & turned 21 Dec 6th. Stats are right there with TB including accuracy.

Go big or go home!! I'm ok with this.

2. LG David Yankey allows Q to move to RT or float. Yankey played 14 @ LT

He's the best guard in the draft and fits perfectly here with his versatility.

3. WR Jordan Matthews ranked 69 so fingers crossed

I think better players will be available here.

4a. RT Juwaun James best pure RT

Solid pick.

b. DE Caruan Reid replaces Ninja before you insist he is DT only, research.

Might be a little early for him IMO but like the fit and agree that he's more DE than a NT in this defense. Like his high effort type for DE in this scheme so would be happy with him.

5. RB Tyler Gaffney Stanford 6' 220 4.49 vert 36.5 played 2011 behind Toby Gerhart then played baseball 2012. 2013: 1709, 21 TDs 15 recepts @ 5.7

eh!!! I think there will be some steals around here on RB's.

6a. ILB Preston Brown 6'1 251 Louisville 4.5 sacks 97 T we sign FA vet.

No problems here.

b. NT Ryan Carrethers 6'2 335 not a hog; college wrestler 93 tackles in 2013

very good pick here if he last this long

c. CB/FS Dontae Johnson 6'2 1/8" 200 38.5 vert 4.45 81 T 3 INTs

Just don't pay enough attention to the secondary to know what would be good here. In every mock I do the six round is a gold mine of good picks.

7a ILB Andrew Jackson 6'1 257 could be steal of draft. 2011 & '12 avg over 112 Ts 2013 95. plays like Ray Lewis and owns the box.

This is one of those gold chips I was talking about. I would love for us to draft Jackson. He would be a huge step towards improving our run defense.

b Mr. Irrelevant? No way! SS Marquis Flowers: 6' 2 229 4.51 pro day
2011 season[edit]
Flowers moved into the starting free safety position before the 2011 season. He played in all 13 games during that season, and recorded 68 tackles (fourth most on the team), as well as 3 passes defended and an interception.[2]


2012 season[edit]
Flowers transferred to outside linebacker during 2012 training camp.[3] Flowers transitioned well, and maintained relatively the same production that he had during his sophomore season. He finished the year with 100 tackles, 5.5 sacks, three interceptions, 6 passes defended and three forced fumbles, one of which he recovered.[4] Flowers was named the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Week after Arizona's 39-35 win over USC, where he intercepted two passes and recorded a fumble.[5] In the 2012 New Mexico Bowl against Nevada, a 49-48 Arizona win, Flowers recovered a key onside kick that helped Arizona take a 1 point lead with 19 seconds to go. He then intercepted Nevada quarterback Cody Fajardo on the next play, sealing an Arizona victory. For his performance, he was named the defensive most valuable player.[6]

I have a feeling there is going to be a player here I want real bad but we end up drafting a local prospect no one has ever heard of before. :smile:

 

[mussop]

Not as concerned about a trade as I was.

1. QB Manziel the only thing (ok it's a biggie) was translation to NFL, but to certain extent that is true for all. He killed pro day & while that is not much to hang his hat on, TB sucked and Bortles was just good. He had no off field issues 2013 & turned 21 Dec 6th. Stats are right there with TB including accuracy.

Go big or go home!! I'm ok with this.

2. LG David Yankey allows Q to move to RT or float. Yankey played 14 @ LT

He's the best guard in the draft and fits perfectly here with his versatility.

3. WR Jordan Matthews ranked 69 so fingers crossed

I think better players will be available here.

4a. RT Juwaun James best pure RT

Solid pick.

b. DE Caruan Reid replaces Ninja before you insist he is DT only, research.

Might be a little early for him IMO but like the fit and agree that he's more DE than a NT in this defense. Like his high effort type for DE in this scheme so would be happy with him.

5. RB Tyler Gaffney Stanford 6' 220 4.49 vert 36.5 played 2011 behind Toby Gerhart then played baseball 2012. 2013: 1709, 21 TDs 15 recepts @ 5.7

eh!!! I think there will be some steals around here on RB's.

6a. ILB Preston Brown 6'1 251 Louisville 4.5 sacks 97 T we sign FA vet.

No problems here.

b. NT Ryan Carrethers 6'2 335 not a hog; college wrestler 93 tackles in 2013

very good pick here if he last this long

c. CB/FS Dontae Johnson 6'2 1/8" 200 38.5 vert 4.45 81 T 3 INTs

Just don't pay enough attention to the secondary to know what would be good here. In every mock I do the six round is a gold mine of good picks.

7a ILB Andrew Jackson 6'1 257 could be steal of draft. 2011 & '12 avg over 112 Ts 2013 95. plays like Ray Lewis and owns the box.

This is one of those gold chips I was talking about. I would love for us to draft Jackson. He would be a huge step towards improving our run defense.

b Mr. Irrelevant? No way! SS Marquis Flowers: 6' 2 229 4.51 pro day
2011 season[edit]
Flowers moved into the starting free safety position before the 2011 season. He played in all 13 games during that season, and recorded 68 tackles (fourth most on the team), as well as 3 passes defended and an interception.[2]


2012 season[edit]
Flowers transferred to outside linebacker during 2012 training camp.[3] Flowers transitioned well, and maintained relatively the same production that he had during his sophomore season. He finished the year with 100 tackles, 5.5 sacks, three interceptions, 6 passes defended and three forced fumbles, one of which he recovered.[4] Flowers was named the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Week after Arizona's 39-35 win over USC, where he intercepted two passes and recorded a fumble.[5] In the 2012 New Mexico Bowl against Nevada, a 49-48 Arizona win, Flowers recovered a key onside kick that helped Arizona take a 1 point lead with 19 seconds to go. He then intercepted Nevada quarterback Cody Fajardo on the next play, sealing an Arizona victory. For his performance, he was named the defensive most valuable player.[6]

I have a feeling there is going to be a player here I want real bad but we end up drafting a local prospect no one has ever heard of before.

 

[thunderkyss]

Yankey adds important element to solidify OL. Maybe Williams returns 100% still he could compete with Wade LG. Like it.

Wade is gone, UFA.

I hope they don't waste a dime bringing him back.

1. Brandon Brooks 4th year Miami (Ohio)
2. Ben Jones 4th year Georgia
3. Cody White 4th year Illinois
4. Alex Kupper 2nd year Louisville

Yankey would shoot right to the top of this list.