Babin out?

[mexican_texan]

A couple of reporters, as well as myself, have been saying that one cannot call a hybrid, like Babin, a bust until his third year or later. Their game changes completely from college, they have to learn a new position, they have a different view of the game, they have to learn a different part of the playbook, and they have to learn new calls, like the other players on the D. In fact, it might take Babin a couple of games to learn to adjust to playing DE again, just like Mario.

 

[Texans86]

Finally, some evidence that the coaches don't hate Babin, and also a confirmation that Babin is currently 6'2" and 271 lbs.

"What I like about him is he's very conscientious," defensive coordinator Richard Smith said. "He's a good athlete, shows tremendous speed at the position. He's able to play with leverage, and I think if you're able to do those things you have a chance to be successful." - MSN

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamReport?categoryId=67071&type=InsideSlant

 

[BigTimeTexanFan]

I just can't understand why nobody wants to give this guy a shot. As mentioned MANY times before, he was playing a position he didn't know his entire NFL career. Give him the opportunity to see what he can do as a down lineman. He was very productive in college there. Not once but twice he had a 15 sack season. Even if it was against lesser competition, 30 sacks in two years is impressive, especially since after the first one, defensive coordinators started game planning against him.
Give him a shot!

 

[noxiousdog]

I just can't understand why nobody wants to give this guy a shot. As mentioned MANY times before, he was playing a position he didn't know his entire NFL career. Give him the opportunity to see what he can do as a down lineman. He was very productive in college there. Not once but twice he had a 15 sack season. Even if it was against lesser competition, 30 sacks in two years is impressive, especially since after the first one, defensive coordinators started game planning against him.
Give him a shot!

Not only that, he was playing with a hurt shoulder all last year on the strong side and still put up comperable numbers to Peek.

 

[mexican_texan]

Not only that, he was playing with a hurt shoulder all last year on the strong side and still put up comperable numbers to Peek.

Oh, that's right! I even heard he could have missed the whole season with that injury.

 

[JAXwithanX]

How would he fit perfectly in Capers defense when he didn't do squat here under Capers?

Yeah how did it take this long before someone pointed that out. I was amazed as i was reading through the posts no one had said something.

Thats just ridiculous. He may be on his way out....but it won't be to the Dolphins because of how perfect he would be for Capers.

 

[bigbrewster2000]

You are exactly right sir insomuch as Babin hasn't done anything in the league compared with Greene to this point. Didn't Capers get Greene's services for a while in Carolina? I thought the exact same thing when they reached for this guy. At least he's in shape.

Travis Johnson, oh man. How many busts can Kubiak overcome? I hope the other guys kick his rump into something.

OK, Shut Up with the BUST TALK. You don't call any player a bust after 2 seasons or after 1 season for that matter. Most NFL players do not usually reach full potential until their 3rd season and sometimes not until their 4th or 5th season(in some cases). There is a transition period at all levels of Football, very few(almost none) players start everygame in High School or College. Why is that? Transition time and learning. While there are more players in the NFL that seem to start from day 1 the % is still very likely under 40% and in reality much lower. We have not seen any of these guys even play in this system. Instead you jump all over a message board post and a terribly written article for crappy information. Then you call a couple of kids in the league Busts because they haven't started every down. Come on guys TJ was a rookie last year and Babin was HURT!!! If you want to call someone a bust on our team I would say the only guy that qualifies is Philip Buchnon but I won't say that for sure until the middle of this season. So give these kids time you big bunch of pathetic loser Texans haters. (no not every one just the Bust talkers)

 

[wicked_wayz]

OK, Shut Up with the BUST TALK. You don't call any player a bust after 2 seasons or after 1 season for that matter. Most NFL players do not usually reach full potential until their 3rd season and sometimes not until their 4th or 5th season(in some cases). There is a transition period at all levels of Football, very few(almost none) players start everygame in High School or College. Why is that? Transition time and learning. While there are more players in the NFL that seem to start from day 1 the % is still very likely under 40% and in reality much lower. We have not seen any of these guys even play in this system. Instead you jump all over a message board post and a terribly written article for crappy information. Then you call a couple of kids in the league Busts because they haven't started every down. Come on guys TJ was a rookie last year and Babin was HURT!!! If you want to call someone a bust on our team I would say the only guy that qualifies is Philip Buchnon but I won't say that for sure until the middle of this season. So give these kids time you big bunch of pathetic loser Texans haters. (no not every one just the Bust talkers)

yeah i totally agree with this give them a chance for goodness sake just because TJ didn't play every down doesn't mean hes a bust he was never suited playing in a 3-4 any way so lets see how he plays under kubiak in th 4-3 scheme before you even call him a bust. the only person who could be a bust is p-buc but with williams now in the mix he could live up to be a good cb

 

[Brandon420tx]

OK, Shut Up with the BUST TALK. You don't call any player a bust after 2 seasons or after 1 season for that matter. Most NFL players do not usually reach full potential until their 3rd season and sometimes not until their 4th or 5th season(in some cases). There is a transition period at all levels of Football, very few(almost none) players start everygame in High School or College. Why is that? Transition time and learning. While there are more players in the NFL that seem to start from day 1 the % is still very likely under 40% and in reality much lower. We have not seen any of these guys even play in this system. Instead you jump all over a message board post and a terribly written article for crappy information. Then you call a couple of kids in the league Busts because they haven't started every down. Come on guys TJ was a rookie last year and Babin was HURT!!! If you want to call someone a bust on our team I would say the only guy that qualifies is Philip Buchnon but I won't say that for sure until the middle of this season. So give these kids time you big bunch of pathetic loser Texans haters. (no not every one just the Bust talkers)

And in extremely rare cases, six years (Turns the keys on his Carr) jk, great posts everyone.

I personally don't think of someone you draft as a "bust" basically all you draft is potential, no matter who it is, if they develope... SUPER!!, if they don't, oh well try again... Now that said, what I really hate is when another team drafts someone who becomes a "BUST!!?" and releases them(or trades them), and MY team picks them up --> :brickwall .... I won't say anymore on that though ....