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Any reason to believe Mario will bust?

ATX_Texan said:
It might also have been because he only had 1/2 half of stellar play in college. Most Heisman winners were at the top of the game for longer than that.

I have to confess that I have my doubts about Mario. No, I am not a Bush or Young homer either. It just bothers me that he did not perform until the last half of his junior year and based on this limited production he is now supposed to be the next Reggie White. The other part of his sudden rise is because of his great work out numbers at the combine. It seems like there have been ample examples of NFL busts who parlayed one season (or half) in college and a great showing at the workouts into big bucks.
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Mario started as a true freshman, and did some pretty remarkable things for all three years. Even his "half season" of production provided numbers that would be remarkable for most defensive ends.

His combine numbers are fat not just because he worked out really hard for the combine--they are fat because the guy is just some sick human being. Giant, long armed, muscled up, quick--a central casting NFL D-linemen.

Any player can be a "bust", especially in a profession that begs for injuries, but it is not fair to gloss someone that way before anybody has even taken an NFL snap.

This is the best article about the Bowie-Williams comparison being crap:

Link: "Mario Williams is No Sam Bowie"

And because I was bored and still residually P.O.'d about the ESPN cover article, and because there really isn't much going on, I put the beat down on the article and its boneheaded author in the blog today: Mario Williams: Media Hackery and Myths

Don't mess with the Texans. :texflag:
 
phan1 said:
Well, not to be negative. I want Mario to succeed as much as the next Texans fan. But I just want to ask that now that we've drafted him and seen him in some minicamps, are there any reasons why Mario will bust at the moment? Without seeing him play a game, I can only say 2 reasons why he won't. 1) He's an athletic freak of nature. 2) He's shown very good character. That alone should be well enough, but you never know what's going to happen. And I can't think of any reasons right now why he wouldn't. I have heard nothing but good things from other players since he's been in Houston.

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At the very least, Mario will be the best D lineman the Texans ever had.
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trane said:
phan1 said:
Well, not to be negative. I want Mario to succeed as much as the next Texans fan. But I just want to ask that now that we've drafted him and seen him in some minicamps, are there any reasons why Mario will bust at the moment? Without seeing him play a game, I can only say 2 reasons why he won't. 1) He's an athletic freak of nature. 2) He's shown very good character. That alone should be well enough, but you never know what's going to happen. And I can't think of any reasons right now why he wouldn't. I have heard nothing but good things from other players since he's been in Houston.

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At the very least, Mario will be the best D lineman the Texans ever had.
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Haha good point :lightbulb:
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Titan "Tack" Fan said:
There have been 20 defensive players in the top 5 of Heisman voting.
http://www.heisman.com/handbook/heisman-defense.html

So sorry, him being a DE isn't an excuse.
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How many of those guys other than Dick Butkus did anything in the NFL?

ATX_Texan said:
It might also have been because he only had 1/2 half of stellar play in college. Most Heisman winners were at the top of the game for longer than that.

I have to confess that I have my doubts about Mario. No, I am not a Bush or Young homer either. It just bothers me that he did not perform until the last half of his junior year and based on this limited production he is now supposed to be the next Reggie White. The other part of his sudden rise is because of his great work out numbers at the combine. It seems like there have been ample examples of NFL busts who parlayed one season (or half) in college and a great showing at the workouts into big bucks.
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Mario put up very comparable career stats in three seasons to Julius Peppers in his four seasons in college football.
 
Those were great articles. Thanks a lot. I just hope Mario or Demeco don't end up doing a "Boz" imitation!!!! And when Michael Jordan was drafted, NOBODY knew that the young man would become the megastar he is. The whole Sam Bowie thing is hindsight. And from what I've seen, it can be a little fuzzy.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan said:
Doesn't say. But even if there are 0 it doesn't mean that if Mario Williams is the best thing since sliced bread then he should have been nominated for a Heisman.
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Out of 350 players nominated (assuming that there were 5 nominated each year) only 20 were defensive and I don't think more than 2-3 were DL (if that many) and those were years and years ago. DL doesn't get nominated for the Heisman. It doesn't matter if they're the greatest DE ever to play the game, they're not going to nominated.

Lawrence Taylor, not nominated. Julius Peppers, not nominated. Ray Lewis, not nominated. Ronnie Lott, not nominated. Dwight Freeney, not nominated. Deacon Jones, not nominated. Reggie White, not nominated. Bruce Smith, not nominated. Are you going to tell me that if you had the opportunity to take one of those guys with the first pick in the draft that you wouldn't do it unless they were nominated for the Heisman?
 
Texans_Chick said:
Mario started as a true freshman, and did some pretty remarkable things for all three years. Even his "half season" of production provided numbers that would be remarkable for most defensive ends.

His combine numbers are fat not just because he worked out really hard for the combine--they are fat because the guy is just some sick human being. Giant, long armed, muscled up, quick--a central casting NFL D-linemen.

Any player can be a "bust", especially in a profession that begs for injuries, but it is not fair to gloss someone that way before anybody has even taken an NFL snap.

This is the best article about the Bowie-Williams comparison being crap:

Link: "Mario Williams is No Sam Bowie"

And because I was bored and still residually P.O.'d about the ESPN cover article, and because there really isn't much going on, I put the beat down on the article and its boneheaded author in the blog today: Mario Williams: Media Hackery and Myths

Don't mess with the Texans. :texflag:
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Great Blog...excellent rebuttal to this article, way to represent. I have the magazine at home but have not had a chance to read it yet, and after reading your blog I don't think I need to.

Isn't anyone that was rated in the top 5 or so picks worthy of going number 1 based on any one team's needs. It is no more of a risk then drafting Tom Brady in the, what was it, 6th round or something. And Mario was #2 on a lot of teams draftboards, and even #1 on a few boards as well. All because we didn't do what somebody thousands of miles away though was best for our Texans. Of course if their wrong, you'll never hear about it again. They have flip-floppin' down to a fine art. These same people will be raving about Mario in the near future. :superman:
 
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