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Aaron Murray QB Georgia
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BullNation4Life
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Meh, Murray is the Matt Schaub of NCAA football...
Can't win the big games when they count...
People used to say the same thing about Peyton & Flacco.
I like Murray ... Mobile enough , accurate enough , strong enough arm .... don't think he's a product of the system or talent around him like some others (AJ McCarron being one of those).
I wonder where he ends up being drafted ?!! Im thinking he could be had in the 3rd round .... but that is definitely subject to change pending how he finishes this season.
I wonder where he ends up being drafted ?!! Im thinking he could be had in the 3rd round .... but that is definitely subject to change pending how he finishes this season.
Scarecrow
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The thing with Murray is he isn't going to win you games by himself. If you have the pieces around him, he will do great things, but he isn't going to pilot a team by himself.
He could make a strong case for himself this year and *maybe* bump himself up to a first rounder. It will be hard to do that after falling to Clemson though. I personally, would not want to spend anything higher than a third on him. He has had incredible talent around him in Green, King, Lynch, and Gurley. Not to mention the amazing defenses he has had.
He could make a strong case for himself this year and *maybe* bump himself up to a first rounder. It will be hard to do that after falling to Clemson though. I personally, would not want to spend anything higher than a third on him. He has had incredible talent around him in Green, King, Lynch, and Gurley. Not to mention the amazing defenses he has had.
AngryNateFTW
Veteran
If he's sitting there in the 3rd round when we pick, I wouldn't be against it.
Physically maybe, but the thing that separates Drew Brees from the rest of the NFL is what's going on upstairs & that's not easily replicated. Some guys got it, most guys don't. Trying to find it in a 6'6" 220lb frame would be nice, but generally speaking... you take it any way you can get it.
Scarecrow
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I live in Georgia and that is the first time I have ever heard anyone compare him to Brees. Think of a more durable Matt Stafford, another UGA QB. Accurate, strong arm, and struggles to beat good teams. Only difference is Murray doesn't get hurt as much. I'm not sure if he would fit your team well by the time you want to replace Schaub, you will want a ton of weapons.
beerlover
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Took Brees awhile, in fact not until he signed w/New Orleans before he got it "upstairs" but I see similar resilience & mental toughness, he is unquestioned leader in bulldog huddle & has quick accurate release. He has demonstrated big time playmaking over & over in big time game situations. In four years as Purdue Boilermaker Brees passed for 11,792, 90 TD's, total offensive yards 12,693, completions 1,026, and attempts 1,678. Murray just beginning Senior season he is on pace in just two games 194.77 passer rating, 632 yards, 71.2 passing %, 4 TD's vs 1 TD. First three seasons he passed for 10,091 yards if he averages 316 per game thats another 3,792 yards or projected 13,883 yards. That is in SEC vs Big 10. No two QB's are exactly alike but I've seen enough from both to make comparable comparison, IMO.
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I could handle getting him in the 3rd and going with he , Case and TJ . That would allow the Texans to plug other holes .
eriadoc
Texan-American
That's the way I'm leaning. Been thinking it for a while. The guys that are projected to go in the first just don't impress me enough to spend a first, and Murray might end up as good as any of them. I don't feel like any of them will come in and have a great rookie year. So if you're going to get a project guy, take him in the 3rd.
Get an OT or big NT or something in the trenches.
TexansSeminole
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Tough break for Murray. I hope he is able to recover fully.
WolverineFan
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That would be nice. He'll still get drafted though. Probably 4th-5th round now instead of 2nd-3rd because he won't be able to workout for scouts.
eriadoc
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I doubt it. He suffers from the short bias.
WolverineFan
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He will undoubtedly get drafted. He was a highly rated recruit and has an incredible resume as a 4-year starter at an SEC school and broke a ton of school and conference records.
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People compare him to Drew Brees. He's worth a gamble in the third or fourth round, especially from a team like the Texans. We still have Matt Schaub under contract for a few more years. Unless we plan to release him - which would cost about $10 million in dead money over the next few seasons and be a total waste on the salary cap - why not go into 2014 with a veteran QB like Schaub, Case Keenum and Aaron Murray?
I suppose Yates will be the odd man out in that scenario. A healthy Arian Foster and Owen Daniels will help out a lot, whoever our starting quarterback is Week 1 in 2014. That would allow Aaron Murray to be groomed and be ready when it's his time in 2016 and maybe even 2015.
I guess a lot depends who the coaching staff is...
A new staff will surely say goodbye to Schaub.
So obviously I need help when it comes to evaluating QBs. I made the statement in another thread that I thought Aaron Murray should be in the conversation of best QB in this draft. I know I'm going to take some heat from that. & contrary to popular opinion, I don't just throw stuff out there to throw stuff out there, or for reactions, or anything like that. I just think differently than most.
I respect many of you for your take on football, the game, the people, the spectacle. Some especially for your insight on the Xes & Os. Some for your evaluation of players, some especially of college players. beerlover is definitely in that group of people I'm looking to for the scoop on the next crop of talent to come into the NFL. When he says....
I don't see how that is not a 1st round QB. Granted, the ACL is an issue, possibly push him down to the third round... but it happened in November & he should be ready to go for the combine... I would think, & ready for contact when the season starts.
But most of the posts in this draft are before the ACL & we're slotting him for the 3rd round. After the ACL, it's "well, maybe he'll get picked up as an UDFA"
I'd be thrilled if the Texans were to draft elite talent at other positions with our first two picks, or parlay those two into 4 day one starters, then get Aaron Murray in the third. I would have the same expectations of him as I would with any of the QBs taken in Rounds 1 & 2.
The guys who watch the draft have been saying this is going to be a good year for QB, there's no "Andrew Luck" but there are a lot of Mat Ryans. & from what I'm seeing, that's exactly what we have here.
Manziel, Bridgewater, Bortles, McCarron, Murray, & Fales..... I'd be happy with any of those six as I believe they have just as good a shot as any to be a franchise QB.
& I'd like to come away with Logan Thomas, but that's more of a project.
I respect many of you for your take on football, the game, the people, the spectacle. Some especially for your insight on the Xes & Os. Some for your evaluation of players, some especially of college players. beerlover is definitely in that group of people I'm looking to for the scoop on the next crop of talent to come into the NFL. When he says....
I don't see how that is not a 1st round QB. Granted, the ACL is an issue, possibly push him down to the third round... but it happened in November & he should be ready to go for the combine... I would think, & ready for contact when the season starts.
But most of the posts in this draft are before the ACL & we're slotting him for the 3rd round. After the ACL, it's "well, maybe he'll get picked up as an UDFA"
I'd be thrilled if the Texans were to draft elite talent at other positions with our first two picks, or parlay those two into 4 day one starters, then get Aaron Murray in the third. I would have the same expectations of him as I would with any of the QBs taken in Rounds 1 & 2.
The guys who watch the draft have been saying this is going to be a good year for QB, there's no "Andrew Luck" but there are a lot of Mat Ryans. & from what I'm seeing, that's exactly what we have here.
Manziel, Bridgewater, Bortles, McCarron, Murray, & Fales..... I'd be happy with any of those six as I believe they have just as good a shot as any to be a franchise QB.
& I'd like to come away with Logan Thomas, but that's more of a project.
Me too but no way would I suggest he be our main target. I would love to draft him as a project.
What draft rumor ? Never mind.
Marshall
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I think the highlighted is too optimistic.
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Let's cut to the chase .
I would rather be on the side of Watt and Clowney.
Let's cut to the chase .
Man, college QB's really pickup some great tail.
Whoda thunk it
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Yep ... it must really suck to be a college QB .
Let's cut to the chase .
This is supposed to be a thread about Aaron Murray the QB. I appreciate the pic of the hot chick, but it has nothing to......
Oh... I didn't see him standing there.
Carry on.
TexansSeminole
Hall of Fame
That's Christian Ponder. Just FYI
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bah007
Hall of Fame
Murray does a lot of things well but he doesn't do anything great. To me, he fits in the Colt McCoy/Kirk Cousins/Matt Barkley department as far as physical skills go. I see a NFL backup QB. He seems intelligent, but not intelligent enough to make up for his physical limitations at the next level.
I don't like his size. His arm is meh. It's good enough for the NFL but what he lacks in arm strength he doesn't make up for anywhere else. He gets a lot of passes batted down at the line. He needs a clean pocket for any throw longer than 15 yards. He's accurate but not amazingly accurate. His ball gets where it's going but there is no zip. He plays in a pro style offense and makes good pre snap reads but takes way too long going through his progressions if his first guy is covered.
He has good mechanics. He has a smooth delivery, a quick release, and good footwork. He has good enough feet to avoid the rush and buy time. By all accounts he is a great leader and a film junkie. He didn't put any absolutely terrible games on tape this year but his performance against Vanderbilt was not pretty. His games last year against South Carolina and Florida were pathetically bad.
I have a 4th round grade on him. I think he is mentally and physically capable of being an effective backup QB, especially in a west coast system. I would not want him to be my starter. He appears to have a very high floor but a very low ceiling. He just looks average to me.
I don't like his size. His arm is meh. It's good enough for the NFL but what he lacks in arm strength he doesn't make up for anywhere else. He gets a lot of passes batted down at the line. He needs a clean pocket for any throw longer than 15 yards. He's accurate but not amazingly accurate. His ball gets where it's going but there is no zip. He plays in a pro style offense and makes good pre snap reads but takes way too long going through his progressions if his first guy is covered.
He has good mechanics. He has a smooth delivery, a quick release, and good footwork. He has good enough feet to avoid the rush and buy time. By all accounts he is a great leader and a film junkie. He didn't put any absolutely terrible games on tape this year but his performance against Vanderbilt was not pretty. His games last year against South Carolina and Florida were pathetically bad.
I have a 4th round grade on him. I think he is mentally and physically capable of being an effective backup QB, especially in a west coast system. I would not want him to be my starter. He appears to have a very high floor but a very low ceiling. He just looks average to me.
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Yeah, what I take away. I think he's a competitor who seems to have the mental capability to run OB's system but question the speed of decision making. Wish he was Ponder's size.
This kid is a very intriguing prospect. He's off of the radar to many fans, but you can bet there's not a team in the league, especially the ones like our Texans who need a QB in the worst way, who's not watching every move he's making in his rehab/recovery.
I'm telling you, there's going to be some legit QB prospects like Murray sitting on the Board at the beginning of the second day of the Draft, and just like the day before we can have any of them because we will be up to bat first again.
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And then you hear about Murray off the field. His leadership ability. His high football IQ and ability to make pre-snap reads (offensive coordinator Mike Bobo estimated to Chip Towers of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that he makes the correct call 90% of the time at the line). That he’s a film junkie…so much so that he went back to study his game against Kentucky (where he tore his ACL) immediately after being released from the Hospital.
Yes, he has some weaknesses. All quarterbacks do. His arm strength is good…not great. He can move when he needs to (57 yard run against Tennessee for example), but he isn’t particularly fast (which could be more affected by his torn ACL). Sometimes he forces throws into coverage, and other times he holds the ball too long in the pocket. I can overlook those issues – for now at least – after the way I saw him play, and what I hear about his work ethic. I don’t expect Murray to be a top round pick. But if you’re looking an absolute steal at quarterback in the middle of the draft, Aaron UGAis definitely the guy.
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/01/07/the-aaron-murray-mystery/
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And here's a piece by a Houston radio guy about Murray which does nothing but help him in terms of his chances to make it in the NFL.
I'm telling you, there's going to be some legit QB prospects like Murray sitting on the Board at the beginning of the second day of the Draft, and just like the day before we can have any of them because we will be up to bat first again.
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And then you hear about Murray off the field. His leadership ability. His high football IQ and ability to make pre-snap reads (offensive coordinator Mike Bobo estimated to Chip Towers of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that he makes the correct call 90% of the time at the line). That he’s a film junkie…so much so that he went back to study his game against Kentucky (where he tore his ACL) immediately after being released from the Hospital.
Yes, he has some weaknesses. All quarterbacks do. His arm strength is good…not great. He can move when he needs to (57 yard run against Tennessee for example), but he isn’t particularly fast (which could be more affected by his torn ACL). Sometimes he forces throws into coverage, and other times he holds the ball too long in the pocket. I can overlook those issues – for now at least – after the way I saw him play, and what I hear about his work ethic. I don’t expect Murray to be a top round pick. But if you’re looking an absolute steal at quarterback in the middle of the draft, Aaron UGAis definitely the guy.
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/01/07/the-aaron-murray-mystery/
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And here's a piece by a Houston radio guy about Murray which does nothing but help him in terms of his chances to make it in the NFL.
He's on my list of six. The knee is more of an issue with him than Mettenberger because running around is a bigger part of his game. But like you said, everybody's watching his rehab & if they sign off on him, he'll be a nice surprise for some team.
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BullNation4Life
All Pro
Saw a clip of him on the Gruden QB Camp. Out of all the other QBs, not named Manziel, Bridgewater or Bortles, he intrigues me the most.
Kid is tough, I didn't know after he tore his ACL, he stayed in the game and threw a TD. Damn...
Drew Brees esq arm and height. Might be a steal in the late rounds...
Kid is tough, I didn't know after he tore his ACL, he stayed in the game and threw a TD. Damn...
Drew Brees esq arm and height. Might be a steal in the late rounds...
BullNation4Life
All Pro
Yeah that was September, I have had a chance to watch more of him through the year and I like what I see...
I can admit I was off base on that assessment...