A prediction about Carr and the haters

[NFLforher]

So basiclly what your saying David carr should never be held accountable for his play WoW. it everyone's fault except for the field general the man that touches the ball on every offensive play.

That's not what I read. Try again. :brickwall

 

[TEXANS84]

The thing that bothered me the most about Carr yesterday was something that happened after the play.

We were down on the Colts 30 yard line on 4th down, and failed. Immediately the camera went onto David, and he was laughing with a Colt player.
Now to some of you, that may not bother you. But that bothered the heck out of me. And I guarantee you'd never see Brady, Manning, Favre, laughing after a failed 4th down conversion in enemy territory.

 

[SESupergenius]

This is hilarious. Same old crew trying to find every little fiber to flame the guy instead of focusing on what the real problems are. "Locking on" is so totally overrated. Please watch any game, ANY game and you will see a QB "lock on" to a receiver. Gee we locked on to Andre last week at the end of the game then threw to another receiver, but boy was that the wrong decision. You can't win with these folks. They are going to need a 500 yard 10 TD game for him to be good. Most of the plays called yesterday were 3 step drops with comebacks, hitches or sideouts. Carr did well for what the plays were called to do, keep pressure off him because the O-line can't handle pressure of more than 2.5 seconds, and then they complain about him "holding on" to the ball too long when he does have more than 3 seconds. Hypocrites and oxy-morons.

 

[SESupergenius]

The thing that bothered me the most about Carr yesterday was something that happened after the play.

We were down on the Colts 30 yard line on 4th down, and failed. Immediately the camera went onto David, and he was laughing with a Colt player.
Now to some of you, that may not bother you. But that bothered the heck out of me. And I guarantee you'd never see Brady, Manning, Favre, laughing after a failed 4th down conversion in enemy territory.

Yes I was a little irritated at that too. He's lacking some fire and leadership there.

 

[wags]

Now to some of you, that may not bother you. But that bothered the heck out of me. And I guarantee you'd never see Brady, Manning, Favre, laughing after a failed 4th down conversion in enemy territory.

You don't know what was going down there on the field. Maybe June said something like "why didn't you throw it to Bradford?" Even Manning or Brady would have had to crack up on that one.

 

[TexanDave]

Carr is the face of the franchise... on ESPN their advertising the Texans and the Chiefs . The say Dick Vermiels Chiefs are in Houston playing David Carr and the Texans . I guess it could'nt be Chad Stanley's Texans .

I was on my way to the Cougars game on Sunday afternoon and was listening to the Texans post game show and heard Chad Stanley was the player of the game. That's pretty bad when the punter was the player of the game and it wasn't even because he punted for a high average or made several punts inside the 20. If anything, we benefited because of short punts.

 

[Frills]

People complain when he throws his helmet after a bad play...

Complain when he yells at someone

Complain when he takes a shot downfield...

Carr is laughing because he can only audible to run plays, he has 2 seconds before he gets thwacked, is always playing down 14 points.

sometimes it gets so bad, all you can do is laugh

 

[TexanBearkat]

I was on my way to the Cougars game on Sunday afternoon and was listening to the Texans post game show and heard Chad Stanley was the player of the game. That's pretty bad when the punter was the player of the game and it wasn't even because he punted for a high average or made several punts inside the 20. If anything, we benefited because of short punts.

Just wait until Stanley is named the Texans MVP. Only other guy who could possibly win in my opinion is Dunta.

 

[utahmark]

how bout league mvp.

 

[DatTexBoy]

just like he didnt read the defense when he scaned the d and found jabar for the td

As I watched that play I was like...Carr is scared as heck...it was: happy feet, happy feet, happy feet...oh he's open...and damn near over threw him. If Gaffney was Bradford...that is an incomplete pass...

Marcus Coleman looked like he was auditioning for the rodeo...jumping on the Edge's back trying to hold on for 8 seconds

Carr should not be on this team next year.

Release 5 of these players:

Carr, David
Buchanon, Phillip
Walker, Gary
Coleman, Marcus
Bradford, Corey

 

[utahmark]

As I watched that play I was like...Carr is scared as heck...it was: happy feet, happy feet, happy feet...oh he's open...and damn near over threw him. If Gaffney was Bradford...that is an incomplete pass...

Marcus Coleman looked like he was auditioning for the rodeo...jumping on the Edge's back trying to hold on for 8 seconds

Carr should not be on this team next year.

Release 5 of these players:

Carr, David
Buchanon, Phillip
Walker, Gary
Coleman, Marcus
Bradford, Corey

you cant release walker that would cost to much. no reason to release buchannon he wont cost hardly anything. im not sure about coleman but i think he would cost a good bit to release as well.

everything is not black and white.

 

[5genTexan]

If we get Vince Young, there will be signs of David WHO????????

Vince Young has a loooooong way to go before he can be an NFL quarterback. I predict that, if HE EVEN GETS INTO THE NFL, it won't be as a quarterback.

 

[Double Barrel]

Release 5 of these players:

Carr, David
Buchanon, Phillip
Walker, Gary
Coleman, Marcus
Bradford, Corey

No
Yes
No
Maybe
Maybe

The team could draft the second coming of Joe Montana or Walter Payton, but without a solid, consistent o-line in front of them, they would look no different than Carr or Davis.

Controlling the trenches to win ballgames is Football 101. Our no. 1, 2, & 3 priorities should be offensive line, offensive line, and offensive line.

oh yeah, GO TEXANS! See you next Sunday night - LOUD & PROUD!

 

[Fiddy]

Carr, David
Buchanon, Phillip
Walker, Gary
Coleman, Marcus
Bradford, Corey

You are releasing the best defensive lineman on this team??? Yeah...

 

[Kaiser Toro]

An easy prediction actually


Carr gets traded, and will have success, and all the people hating on him will be here posting how they LOVED CARR, new he had potential and blah blah.... I can see it now. Is Carr a bit shell shocked, yes. Does he hold the ball to long at times, yes. Does he have more dropped passes than any other QB in the NFL, yes. Does he have the worst pass protection in the NFL, yes! Let the guy go to another team, watch him become what many nfl experts say he has and then I will have to read and here all you haters whining about that.

How many times do we have to see it happen Houston, how many times?

You know the guy has the worst pass protection in the NFL and with the dumbest set of coaches who could not make a right play call if it slapped their mothers in front of them.

Yes it is a very easy prediction. If Carr does leave he will surely make less money. Myself, like most of the Carr haters on this board, do not like the current contract and would like to see Carr stay at a mid tier level price for a QB in the league.

If he goes elsewhere the team will be able to spend the money on the line and skill positions to maximize his talent. I would like to see that recipe here in Houston.

 

[Coach C.]

then we get to see some schmuck qb suck for a year and then a rookie suck for 2years. Well that will easily turn a 5 year plan into a 8 year plan. I mean people I understand that Carr not played close to the level that we expect out of a qb. I am a Carr supporter but I do not follow because of blind faith. The kid has immense talent and it is displayed everytime our offensive calling gets aggressive and we let him sling the rock around. yeah he will take to many sacks, not look off safties, and damn can you please look somewhere else other than the dumpoff man. All these things are easily fixable and things that every QB including the greats have to work on constantly. Get some talent around him and I dont mean a possession receiver from florida, a solid back, a horrible line, and star receiver. he has less weapons than any winning team and that is why we lose. Jimmy Johnson said it best "Carr has the ability to be one of the greats in this league it is a shame that Management and coaching are not putting this kid in a position to succeed."

 

[Double Barrel]

I agree with Coach C. Put better talent around him and you'll see a better QB.

Players with much less raw talent than Carr have risen and played on championship caliber teams, all because they were surrounded by a great TEAM.

I don't think any QB would find success with today's Texans. We need to focus on what's important, and that's the fundamentals of the game - like controlling the trenches.

 

[Kaiser Toro]

then we get to see some schmuck qb suck for a year and then a rookie suck for 2years. Well that will easily turn a 5 year plan into a 8 year plan. I mean people I understand that Carr not played close to the level that we expect out of a qb. I am a Carr supporter but I do not follow because of blind faith. The kid has immense talent and it is displayed everytime our offensive calling gets aggressive and we let him sling the rock around. yeah he will take to many sacks, not look off safties, and damn can you please look somewhere else other than the dumpoff man. All these things are easily fixable and things that every QB including the greats have to work on constantly. Get some talent around him and I dont mean a possession receiver from florida, a solid back, a horrible line, and star receiver. he has less weapons than any winning team and that is why we lose. Jimmy Johnson said it best "Carr has the ability to be one of the greats in this league it is a shame that Management and coaching are not putting this kid in a position to succeed."

Yes your hypothetical is plausible about a FA QB and a rookie, but it is also plausible that those guys come in and perform well as we grow the Oline organically through the draft.

I believe every position needs to be looked at with a stern eye to get us on the right track. And those eyes are usually strongly stern when it comes to the high priced contracts. Believe me if Carr were getting paid a mid level QB price right now, there would be less discussions on his performance and what his value is to the future of the team.