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2016 Hard Knocks

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Forgive me if I missed it, but I did not see another thread about the LA Rams Hard Knocks episode last night.

A few thoughts:

1. What a jerk Jeff Fisher is (I know that you have to lay down the law but that was ridiculous I thougth) and how many different pairs of Costas that he owns, and

2. Jared Goff is as dumb as a stick. Really. So glad we didn't take THAT guy. Geeze, doesn't even know where the Sun sets, literally.

3. Why in the world would they have athletes staying in dorms with crappy beds (can't be good for their bodies) and no A/C?!?!? How the heck can they stay hydrated that way?

Other thoughts?
 
I haven't watched it. But Jeff Fisher just comes off as a pompous ahole. I heard about Goff not knowing where the sun rises and sets. He made himself look like the Jessica Simpson of the NFL.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
I haven't watched it. But Jeff Fisher just comes off as a pompous ahole. I heard about Goff not knowing where the sun rises and sets. He made himself look like the Jessica Simpson of the NFL.
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I haven't seen the scene yet but to be fair the under 30 crowd is largely oblivious to cardinal directions.
 
infantrycak said:
I haven't seen the scene yet but to be fair the under 30 crowd is largely oblivious to cardinal directions.
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C'mon man. I really hope the under 30 crown isn't that bimbo-ish.

I wonder if they know rivers and lakes are fresh water and oceans and seas are salt water?
 
chicagotexan2 said:
C'mon man. I really hope the under 30 crown isn't that bimbo-ish.

I wonder if they know rivers and lakes are fresh water and oceans and seas are salt water?
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I'm telling you I have quit trying to give directions that way. Go 'head north on x and then turn east on y" and you get an RCA dog look. Hell half of them are lost with the idea of directions instead of GPS.
 
Weather in California is usually pretty mild. When I lived there I didn't have an air conditioner either. No need for one.

I'm sure that Goff has believed the sun rises and sets wherever he is all his life. So no wonder he was confused about that.
 
More surprising about Goff is that he's never run a huddle, has trouble calling basic plays, and is a complete noob about taking snaps under center. Add to that his apparently lack of smarts, and this episode did not do him any favors. He seemed overwhelmed most of the time.
 
chicagotexan2 said:
I haven't watched it. But Jeff Fisher just comes off as a pompous ahole. I heard about Goff not knowing where the sun rises and sets. He made himself look like the Jessica Simpson of the NFL.
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I will give him the benefit of the doubt since he scored 36 on the Wonderlic, and perhaps he thought sun rise/sun set was a trick question.
 
Watched my recording of the 1st episode last night. Bor-ring

Fisher = Most overrated coach in the NFL
 
Is it just me, or does HARD KNOCKS really suck this year? And not just because it's not the Texans. I've watched others and always really liked them. This one suck, IMO. Weinke, the DL coach and Gregg Williams just yell the FBomb all episode. Just doesn't seem up to par this year.
 
I just saw this thread, and I put my question in the Random thread. I'll ask here as well.

I don't know why but I have always had a fascination with players jersey numbers. While I was watching Hard Knocks. I saw that Tavon Austin is wearing #1 as his jersey number. How is that possible? He is a receiver, I thought that they were allowed numbers 10-19, and 80-89. How does he get around the rules for the allowed jersey numbers? Ok, so I did a Google search and see that he wears #11 in the past. Have they passed a new rule, or is it just a training camp thing? It was just bugging me and I was just wondering how it is possible.
 
False Start said:
I just saw this thread, and I put my question in the Random thread. I'll ask here as well.

I don't know why but I have always had a fascination with players jersey numbers. While I was watching Hard Knocks. I saw that Tavon Austin is wearing #1 as his jersey number. How is that possible? He is a receiver, I thought that they were allowed numbers 10-19, and 80-89. How does he get around the rules for the allowed jersey numbers? Ok, so I did a Google search and see that he wears #11 in the past. Have they passed a new rule, or is it just a training camp thing? It was just bugging me and I was just wondering how it is possible.
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Training camp thing. Austin wore #1 at WVU, he can't wear that in the pros so during camp he gets his groove on in his old faithful. Deion Sanders used to do the same thing wearing #2 during camp like he did at FSU.
 
Mollywhopper said:
Training camp thing. Austin wore #1 at WVU, he can't wear that in the pros so during camp he gets his groove on in his old faithful. Deion Sanders used to do the same thing wearing #2 during camp like he did at FSU.
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Thanks bud. I figured that's what it was. I was hoping that the rule for jersey numbers had not changed. I'm still getting adjusted to the receivers wearing 10-19.
 
Double Barrel said:
More surprising about Goff is that he's never run a huddle, has trouble calling basic plays, and is a complete noob about taking snaps under center. Add to that his apparently lack of smarts, and this episode did not do him any favors. He seemed overwhelmed most of the time.
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That threw me for a loop too. I was thinking what the hell? :hankpalm:

In episode 2 Fisher did one thing that I respected, by insisting the guys line up along the sideline all proper like for the National Anthem.
 
False Start said:
Thanks bud. I figured that's what it was. I was hoping that the rule for jersey numbers had not changed. I'm still getting adjusted to the receivers wearing 10-19.
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Julio Jones #11
A.J. Green #18
Muhammed Sanu #12
Kenny Stills # 10

So I think WR's can wear 10-19 or 80's
 
steelbtexan said:
Julio Jones #11
A.J. Green #18
Muhammed Sanu #12
Kenny Stills # 10

So I think WR's can wear 10-19 or 80's
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Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier 80-89, and 10-19. If they started letting WRs wearing 1-9, it would seem like college. College jersey numbers throw me off. I guess its because I came accustomed to the NFL system when it comes to number criteria. Seeing a RB wearing a single digit number just doesn't seem right to me.

Lets not forget the greatest WR number in Texans history.... #12, the great Jacoby Jones. :littlelol:
 
False Start said:
Yeah, that's what I was saying earlier 80-89, and 10-19. If they started letting WRs wearing 1-9, it would seem like college. College jersey numbers throw me off. I guess its because I came accustomed to the NFL system when it comes to number criteria. Seeing a RB wearing a single digit number just doesn't seem right to me.

Lets not forget the greatest WR number in Texans history.... #12, the great Jacoby Jones. :littlelol:
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Don't really mind most guys wearing whatever number they please in college. More often than not even think backs and db's wearing single digits is generally 'cool' looking. I wore a single digit myself in school. BUT, I take an odd exception with dlineman wearing single digits in college. And my reason is purely selfish and mostly silly. I tend to see a guy that I think looks effective in school like ...

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... and then scan his height/weight and whatnot and find out instead of the 6'3 270-80 I'm imagining that might run under a 4.95, he's really 6'1 299, runs a 5.06, and in the pros ...

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... 97 doesn't have the same sleek and slimming effect that 8 does on a bigger boy.

And no this isn't a big deal at all, but it has caught my eye enough that I keep it in the back of my head when watching college dlineman flash in single digits.
 
Thorn said:
At least the Rams are back in LA. I never could get used to the "St. Louis" Rams. It just never sounded right.
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It really bugs the crap out of me when any team has a mascot name that doesn't fit them at all. Who thinks of Rams for L.A? The Utah Jazz name drives me nuts. I really wish teams would just change the damn name and stop trying to keep some tradition. I'm so glad that when the Oilers left, their name died and they became a new team. The Rams should be the stars or something like that.

I wish so badly that the Texans could have been named The Roughnecks. It would have bene so fitting to me since its an oil town.
 
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Texecutioner said:
It really bugs the crap out of me when any team has a mascot name that doesn't fit them at all. Who thinks of Rams for L.A? The Utah Jazz name drives me nuts. I really wish teams would just change the damn name and stop trying to keep some tradition. I'm so glad that when the Oilers left, their name died and they became a new team. The Rams should be the stars or something like that.

I wish so badly that the Texans could have been named The Roughnecks. It would have bene so fitting to me since its an oil town.
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Utah Jazz I get the complaint. Rams are fricking universal (breed em where you want em) and an obvious football mascot.

Smart by the Texans not to buy into this historical 'oil town' schtick. Houston is more and wants to be more. It's also a port hey let's be the Houston Containers.
 
Thorn said:
At least the Rams are back in LA. I never could get used to the "St. Louis" Rams. It just never sounded right.
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Bizarre thing is that the stadium in St. Louis is only 21 years old. That city got screwed.

And what a possible precedent. Will McNair have his hand out for a new crib in 2023?

I look forward to seeing how L.A. responds to the typical Fisher mediocre teams once the shiny new wears off. I'm still very skeptical that there are enough NFL fans in L.A. to keep interested in a 2-14 team (which Houston has shown it can twice already....sad that we had to endure it, tho'...)

Texecutioner said:
It really bugs the crap out of me when any team has a mascot name that doesn't fit them at all. Who thinks of Rams for L.A? The Utah Jazz name drives me nuts. I really wish teams would just change the damn name and stop trying to keep some tradition. I'm so glad that when the Oilers left, their name died and they became a new team. The Rams should be the stars or something like that.

I wish so badly that the Texans could have been named The Roughnecks. It would have bene so fitting to me since its an oil town.
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I really liked the Texas Toros, all things considered. I'm used to and embraced the name, but "Houston Texans" still sounds like an address when I step back from being a fan.
 
Idk, anomalies like the Utah Jazz I think are great for their absurdity. Makes for fun timekiller convo with fans that don't follow quite as much.

Toros or Apollos will always have gotten my vote. Especially as just about anything would be better than the Houston Panderers, err, Texans. I've learned to accept it, but I'll never like that generic, ultra-safe, and weak excuse for a name. May as well have been the Containers as far as I'm concerned.
 
New Orleans Jazz made great sense... moving to Utah the name no longer made sense but they were established
 
infantrycak said:
Utah Jazz I get the complaint. Rams are fricking universal (breed em where you want em) and an obvious football mascot.

Smart by the Texans not to buy into this historical 'oil town' schtick. Houston is more and wants to be more. It's also a port hey let's be the Houston Containers.
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So you want all those same ole boring names that HS's and colleges all have as well like the Mustangs, Bears, and the Tigers ha? God I hate that crap. Talk about bland.

I loved the Oilers name. It fit the team and the city. No one would have ever suggested the containers so you are exaggerating things there. My favorite team name is probably the Rajun Cajuns. It fits their culture and sounds like a bunch of savages in a sport where you're supposed to be one.
 
Double Barrel said:
Bizarre thing is that the stadium in St. Louis is only 21 years old. That city got screwed.

And what a possible precedent. Will McNair have his hand out for a new crib in 2023?

I look forward to seeing how L.A. responds to the typical Fisher mediocre teams once the shiny new wears off. I'm still very skeptical that there are enough NFL fans in L.A. to keep interested in a 2-14 team (which Houston has shown it can twice already....sad that we had to endure it, tho'...)



I really liked the Texas Toros, all things considered. I'm used to and embraced the name, but "Houston Texans" still sounds like an address when I step back from being a fan.
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Toros would have been pretty cool. I still like the Roughnecks though. It just has that football vibe to it. Gives me a visual of a guy like Jack Lambert or something like that.
 
Texecutioner said:
Toros would have been pretty cool. I still like the Roughnecks though. It just has that football vibe to it. Gives me a visual of a guy like Jack Lambert or something like that.
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I like the Roughnecks, in so far as what it represents ... but it doesn't roll of the tongue well, and man, if there were ever a name just set up on a tee for ridicule.
 
Texecutioner said:
So you want all those same ole boring names that HS's and colleges all have as well like the Mustangs, Bears, and the Tigers ha? God I hate that crap. Talk about bland.

I loved the Oilers name. It fit the team and the city. No one would have ever suggested the containers so you are exaggerating things there. My favorite team name is probably the Rajun Cajuns. It fits their culture and sounds like a bunch of savages in a sport where you're supposed to be one.
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The Rams is a bit generic by our modern perspectives, but you gotta' remember when the franchise was formed. It was originally the Cleveland Rams in 1936. The name is a sign of the times.

I loved the Oilers name, too, and in the end, I'm glad Tennessee didn't get the name.

The Houston Containers cracks me up!! I ship those things all over the world, and there is nothing cool or exciting about a big metal shipping box. lol!
 
Mollywhopper said:
I like the Roughnecks, in so far as what it represents ... but it doesn't roll of the tongue well, and man, if there were ever a name just set up on a tee for ridicule.
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I'd take it with pride. It's football after all. You're not trying to be pretty boys. Its cool to sound ugly and blue collarish.
 
Double Barrel said:
The Rams is a bit generic by our modern perspectives, but you gotta' remember when the franchise was formed. It was originally the Cleveland Rams in 1936. The name is a sign of the times.

I loved the Oilers name, too, and in the end, I'm glad Tennessee didn't get the name.

The Houston Containers cracks me up!! I ship those things all over the world, and there is nothing cool or exciting about a big metal shipping box. lol!
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Maybe I'll get flamed, but who cares.

Ravens ought to be the Baltimore Looters. :ahhaha:

The Joking aside, I actually think that would be a bad ass name as it would fit the rough context of what a football team should be.
 
Texecutioner said:
So you want all those same ole boring names that HS's and colleges all have as well like the Mustangs, Bears, and the Tigers ha? God I hate that crap. Talk about bland.

I loved the Oilers name. It fit the team and the city. No one would have ever suggested the containers so you are exaggerating things there. My favorite team name is probably the Rajun Cajuns. It fits their culture and sounds like a bunch of savages in a sport where you're supposed to be one.
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I'm meh about generic names. Actually don't like Texans as it seems to over-claim. I thought the best idea was something which fit in with Astros and Rockets.

I just think oil field is past its prime. Oilers was great for when the city had John Wayne makimg Red Adair movies. Love that movie.

Double Barrel said:
The Houston Containers cracks me up!! I ship those things all over the world, and there is nothing cool or exciting about a big metal shipping box. lol!
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Put that in for you.

Return your damn phone calls.
 
infantrycak said:
I'm meh about generic names. Actually don't like Texans as it seems to over-claim. I thought the best idea was something which fit in with Astros and Rockets.

I just think oil field is past its prime. Oilers was great for when the city had John Wayne makimg Red Adair movies. Love that movie.



Put that in for you.

Return your damn phone calls.
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Astros is great, and Rockets is fitting as well, but to your argument about the Oilers I guess we could say that about the Rockets as well since the space program was discontinued. I hate the Texans name as well. I like the SA Spurs. That is different and pretty cool. Same with the Texas Rangers. I think the Commanchees would be bad ass for any of our teams, but then we'd probably have the context of people judging it wrong. Personally, I'd look at that as paying homage to them as the Commanchees were arguably the most bad ass indians in the country to many historians, and they were all over Texas. I'd love that actually.
 
Not going to declare NASA dead but OK.

There are all sorts of historical names if you broaden out from just city...and what could be more broad than Texans?

The Houston Cavalry. Folks have been picking riders and horses out of here as long as the cavalry existed. Cool starting emblem too (Dan you owe me):

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infantrycak said:
Not going to declare NASA dead but OK.

There are all sorts of historical names if you broaden out from just city...and what could be more broad than Texans?

The Houston Cavalry. Folks have been picking riders and horses out of here as long as the cavalry existed. Cool starting emblem too (Dan you owe me):

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LIke I said, I hated the Texans name. Cavalry isn't to bad. I like the logo as well. It gives me more if a Pirate theme to it though. I like anything with Pirates regarding football. I always liked the old Tampa Bay Bucs logo.

The Nebraska Cornhuskers sounds like a such a terrible name, but I think it fits them perfectly. What else could they be?
 
I wanted something more NASA sounding for the name, but I'm quite used to Texans now, and like it. There was an American football league team in Europe called the Galaxy with cool helmets.
 
Texecutioner said:
LIke I said, I hated the Texans name. Cavalry isn't to bad. I like the logo as well. It gives me more if a Pirate theme to it though. I like anything with Pirates regarding football. I always liked the old Tampa Bay Bucs logo.

The Nebraska Cornhuskers sounds like a such a terrible name, but I think it fits them perfectly. What else could they be?
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Never occurred to me viewing that logo but since you say it, pirates work as an historical theme around Houston as well.
 
False Start said:
I loved the Roughnecks name as well, however the only drawback to that would be people calling the team Rednecks. I was always a fan of Apollos. We could have this guy as our logo.

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I'd take the Rednecks all day. That would be hilarious. I think it would be a cool name, and wouldn't care at all for the negative feelings some would have about it.
 
infantrycak said:
Not going to declare NASA dead but OK.

There are all sorts of historical names if you broaden out from just city...and what could be more broad than Texans?

The Houston Cavalry. Folks have been picking riders and horses out of here as long as the cavalry existed. Cool starting emblem too (Dan you owe me):

CAV.JPG
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While I really love the image of those crossed sabers, I was honestly hoping McNair would embrace the ego-fufilling name of the Bobcats. :D
 
I liked the Houston 1836 logo. It was the original for the dynamo. However, due to demographics of the fan base, it was changed. Hate the name Dynamo.
 
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