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2011 Senior Bowl Game

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The 2011 Under Armour Senior Bowl is scheduled for Saturday, January 29, 2011, in Mobile’s Ladd-Peebles Stadium.

The 2011 game will kickoff at 3:00 pm CST and the contest will be nationally-televised by NFL Network.
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Current Roster

A TON of possible first round talent.

Bailey, Allen DE 6-4 / 285 Miami
Carimi, Gabe OL 6-7 / 327 Wisconsin
Clayborn, Adrian DE 6-4 / 285 Iowa
Castonzo, Anthony OL 6-7 / 308 Boston College
Dowling, Ras-I DB 6-2 / 205 Virginia
Hudson, Rodney OL 6-2 / 282 Florida State
Jones, Greg LB 6-1 / 240 Michigan State
Locker, Jake QB 6-3 / 230 Washington
Murray, DeMarco RB 6-1 / 207 Oklahoma
Nevis, Drake DL 6-2 / 285 LSU
Sherrod, Derek OL 6-6 / 305 Mississippi State
Thomas, Daniel RB 6-2 / 228 Kansas State
Williams, D.J. TE 6-2 / 251 Arkansas
 
Super Mario said:
http://www.seniorbowl.com/



Current Roster

A TON of possible first round talent.

Bailey, Allen DE 6-4 / 285 Miami
Carimi, Gabe OL 6-7 / 327 Wisconsin
Clayborn, Adrian DE 6-4 / 285 Iowa
Castonzo, Anthony OL 6-7 / 308 Boston College
Dowling, Ras-I DB 6-2 / 205 Virginia
Hudson, Rodney OL 6-2 / 282 Florida State
Jones, Greg LB 6-1 / 240 Michigan State
Locker, Jake QB 6-3 / 230 Washington
Murray, DeMarco RB 6-1 / 207 Oklahoma
Nevis, Drake DL 6-2 / 285 LSU
Sherrod, Derek OL 6-6 / 305 Mississippi State
Thomas, Daniel RB 6-2 / 228 Kansas State
Williams, D.J. TE 6-2 / 251 Arkansas
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I will take one of each..please drive through :kubepalm:
 
And don't forget Von Miller from your list of top senior candidates. I'm especially looking forward to the week of practice before the game when they telecast the one-on-one drills including the pass-rushing drills.
And Draft guru favorite Mike Mayock is back on the scene - totally enjoy his commentary and analysis.
 
I've seen some posters on here pushing Paea as a NT and I'm just not buying it.

I buy the first round grade that people have on him. I have him graded in the top 25. But I think he is a 43 guy only.

I think some people are so desperate for us to grab a NT that they are pushing guys who don't fit into that spot.
 
I go to draftdaddy.com the blog section has highlights from around the country, and it also highlights some of the national guys.


I use the site year round.
 
bah007 said:
I've seen some posters on here pushing Paea as a NT and I'm just not buying it.

I buy the first round grade that people have on him. I have him graded in the top 25. But I think he is a 43 guy only.

I think some people are so desperate for us to grab a NT that they are pushing guys who don't fit into that spot.
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Ill say that I am not buying Fairley #1 overall to the panthers. The last time a DT was drafted #1 overall was in 1994. Dan Wilkenson.

Rookie head coach Ron Rivera will take either a QB to grow with, or Bowers. Dark horse is Peterson.
 
Orgeon State DT Stephen Paea, a potential 1st rd pick, out rest of Sr. Bowl. MRI, suspected lateral meniscus knee injury

RavensInsider

LSU corner Patrick Peterson says he has meetings with the Houston Texans, Denver Broncos, Miami Dolphins, Redskins, Saints and 49ers
 
Super Mario said:
Ill say that I am not buying Fairley #1 overall to the panthers. The last time a DT was drafted #1 overall was in 1994. Dan Wilkenson.

Rookie head coach Ron Rivera will take either a QB to grow with, or Bowers. Dark horse is Peterson.
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I can't see a QB in this class going #1 overall. That would be a tremendous waste considering the talent available.

I think either A.J. Green, DaQuan Bowers, or Patrick Peterson go number one. I think Bowers is most likely.
 
Per Scout.com

The Houston Texans met with Virginia Tech DB Rashad Carmichael, who had two interceptions during Monday's North Team practice. That isolated fact may instantly make him an upgrade over every other player in Houston's historically inept secondary.
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LOL
 
FYI on some Huskers.

Helu Jr, has been impressive so far.
Niles Paul has looked like an NFL WR without actually showing anything with ball in the air.
Alex Henery has been punting there and doing it poorly.
Eric Hagg has looked really bad from all accounts, I was really disappointed in this, looks like he is not an option for us after all like I thought he might be. Good college player, not a pro perhaps.
Mike McNeil, TE, being compared favourably to Colt Tammi, able to stretch the field along the seam.
 
The Cal Defensive end, didn't catch the name is tearing the place apart from all reports.

Apparently he has been playing a bit of DT too, is he big enough for us to look at?
 
kiwitexansfan said:
The Cal Defensive end, didn't catch the name is tearing the place apart from all reports.

Apparently he has been playing a bit of DT too, is he big enough for us to look at?
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cameron jordan...a big time disruptor. he was a beast at cal. can definitely play the 5 tech.

if we do end up going up going DE, i'd take him over watt.
 
steelbtexan said:
Yes he is.

As bad as we need defense I would consider taking him in the 3rd rd.

Dude is a playmaker and would look great opposite AJ.
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he's been the best player there these first 2 days...he's making $$$ right now...he could easily go top 50 if he continues to impress.
 
Trap_Star said:
he's been the best player there these first 2 days...he's making $$$ right now...he could easily go top 50 if he continues to impress.
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yeah, maybe he's this years Senior Bowl version of Amobi Okoye?

ps - cam jordon is #30 on our big board
 
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IDEXAN said:
And don't forget Von Miller from your list of top senior candidates. I'm especially looking forward to the week of practice before the game when they telecast the one-on-one drills including the pass-rushing drills.
And Draft guru favorite Mike Mayock is back on the scene - totally enjoy his commentary and analysis.
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What time do they air the practices on NFLN? I would like to record it.

Thanks.
 
beerlover said:
yeah, maybe he's this years Senior Bowl version of Amobi Okoye?

ps - cam jordon is #30 on our big board
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He is #9 on mine. And I haven't even been able to watch a lick of the Senior Bowl stuff yet. Been busy all week and my dvr is getting backed up.

It's not like he can't move up on y'alls board if he is doing as well as it's being reported.
 
drs23 said:
Thanks Hou-Tex. Dang, didn't know it went on all afternoon. Mama's gonna be pissed. TV in the BR for her tonight! :D
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Yup, I watched a little at lunch, but not really enough to form a report for y'all. However, there were 2 players that kinda made me focus on them a bit more. Hunter, RB from Okl State stood out in 1 on 1 pass protection drills. And this Kerrigan fella from Purdue looked pretty good coming off the edge in team drills.

I also watched the Mathews kid a bit. Was kinda underwhelmed the little I saw, but I'll keep an eye on him anyway. Although, he had a sweet spin move against a RB in the 1 on 1 drill.
 
bah007 said:
He is #9 on mine. And I haven't even been able to watch a lick of the Senior Bowl stuff yet. Been busy all week and my dvr is getting backed up.

It's not like he can't move up on y'alls board if he is doing as well as it's being reported.
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I'm never going to move someone way up or down based off Senior Bowl week. It should be afirmation of a seasons worth of work. learned that one hard way along with Texans (I hope) with Amobi Okoye. Yes he is first rd. talent all depends on team needs & how they draft are they position selective or highest grade/bpa heavy? He could move up maybe 5-10 spots from 30 thats alot, really if you've done homework all year, I mean you have to ask yourself what's changed, or is it because projected forward its a hot position, in his case looks like the 5 technique. He could also be hurt to some degree from playing in the PAC 10 which isn't exposed around rest of the country & conference is known for spread offenses without much defense. Once you bring them in & compare head to shoulder with group can you confirm where they should fall in draft class @ specific position.
 
This week at the SB practices they were talking about the outstanding group of
offensive tackles in this years Draft and at Mobile, which got them to talking about the Draft year when so many OTs were drafted in the first round.
Anyway somebody mentioned Duane Brown being the 7th and last OT taken in the 1st round of that draft, at which time Mayoc said he had a third round grade on Brown.
 
JimBaker488 said:
...at which time Mayoc said he had a third round grade on Brown.
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Brown hasn't been a superstar, especially as a pass blocker. But, he's not a 3rd round talent, either. The Chargers were poised to snap up Brown with the next pick, so the idea the Texans reached on Brown was debunked on draft day.

I'm not going to blow sunshine up your arse about Kubiak and Smith and their outstanding drafts. But after years of neglecting the LT position, the Texans absolutely, positively had to find one in the '08 draft. Brown has stopped the hemorrhaging at the position.

I realize Mayock has become something of a draftnik folk hero. Maybe I'm the only one who remembers that he had A&M's Reggie McNeal as his #1 QB in the '06 draft for quite awhile. Mayock misses his share.
 
Lucky said:
Brown hasn't been a superstar, especially as a pass blocker. But, he's not a 3rd round talent, either. The Chargers were poised to snap up Brown with the next pick, so the idea the Texans reached on Brown was debunked on draft day.

I'm not going to blow sunshine up your arse about Kubiak and Smith and their outstanding drafts. But after years of neglecting the LT position, the Texans absolutely, positively had to find one in the '08 draft. Brown has stopped the hemorrhaging at the position.

I realize Mayock has become something of a draftnik folk hero. Maybe I'm the only one who remembers that he had A&M's Reggie McNeal as his #1 QB in the '06 draft for quite awhile. Mayock misses his share.
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Yes he does. He is a big believer in "quick twitch" muscles. And once he gets a little down on someone, he will never admit that they were better than he gives them credit for.
 
beerlover said:
I'm never going to move someone way up or down based off Senior Bowl week. It should be afirmation of a seasons worth of work. learned that one hard way along with Texans (I hope) with Amobi Okoye. Yes he is first rd. talent all depends on team needs & how they draft are they position selective or highest grade/bpa heavy? He could move up maybe 5-10 spots from 30 thats alot, really if you've done homework all year, I mean you have to ask yourself what's changed, or is it because projected forward its a hot position, in his case looks like the 5 technique. He could also be hurt to some degree from playing in the PAC 10 which isn't exposed around rest of the country & conference is known for spread offenses without much defense. Once you bring them in & compare head to shoulder with group can you confirm where they should fall in draft class @ specific position.
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i knew jordan would be a 1st round prospect since last year. after the jags picked tyson alualu, i went to youtube to watch some of alualu's highlights...and sure enough jordan stuck out as well. the guy has value no matter what scheme they run. he can play in the 4-3 and 3-4. the workouts and interviews will have a lot to do where he goes. i could potentially see him going as early as 7 to SF, it all depends how the board plays out. if i had to make a mock draft today, i would probably put him at 17 to NE. it's still very early in the evaluating process, but the guy can ball...oh and the pac 10 isn't all about the spread, usc, standford, and even cal run pro-style offenses.
 
Trap_Star said:
i knew jordan would be a 1st round prospect since last year. after the jags picked tyson alualu, i went to youtube to watch some of alualu's highlights...and sure enough jordan stuck out as well. the guy has value no matter what scheme they run. he can play in the 4-3 and 3-4. the workouts and interviews will have a lot to do where he goes. i could potentially see him going as early as 7 to SF, it all depends how the board plays out. if i had to make a mock draft today, i would probably put him at 17 to NE. it's still very early in the evaluating process, but the guy can ball...oh and the pac 10 isn't all about the spread, usc, standford, and even cal run pro-style offenses.
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fair enough, thats why every teams draft boards vary. doesn't mean Alualu was the the best pick they could make but he's been solid for the most part, if teams have a great need to address is quite common to reach for a position.

Arizona stole Antonio Smith in the 5th rd. Texans needed a pass rushing LDE to compliment Mario & paid him strong money to come here, now transitions to a 3-4 end & should yield similar results. In fact Antonio reminds me of Cameron Jordon, I think they're also pretty close size wise so the Texans should be set on end & wait to take one latter to develop in the draft.

Selected by the Arizona Cardinals in the fifth round (135th overall) of the 2004 NFL Draft...Signed by Cardinals on July 27, 2004...released by Cardinals on September 5, 2004...Re-signed by Cardinals to practice squad on September 6, 2004...Signed by Cardinals to active roster on December 15, 2004...Assigned by Cardinals to Hamburg Sea Devils in 2005 NFL Europe enhancement allocation program on February 14, 2005...Released by Cardinals on September 4, 2005...Re-signed by Cardinals to practice squad on September 8, 2005...Signed by Cardinals to active roster on October 6, 2005...Re-signed with Cardinals on April 5, 2007...Re-signed with Cardinals on April 3, 2008...Signed by the Houston Texans on March 1, 2009.

PRO: A physical and versatile veteran defensive end who joined the Texans as an unrestricted free agent prior to the 2009 season...started 15 of 16 games in his first season in Houston and registered 33 tackles, 4.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and two fumble recoveries...played in 61 games with 39 starts over five seasons with the Arizona Cardinals...spent the spring of 2005 with the Hamburg Sea Devils of NFL Europe, starting nine-of-10 games and finished with six sacks, 28 tackles and a forced fumble while earning all-NFL Europe honors...worked his way up from the Cardinals practice squad to become a regular starter, eventually starting all three playoff games for the Cardinals in their run to Super Bowl XLII.

COLLEGE: Two-year starter at Oklahoma State after transferring from Northeastern Oklahoma A&M College…though his senior season was shortened by a leg injury, still managed to record two-year totals of 60 tackles (30 solos), 8.5 sacks, seven quarterback pressures and three pass deflections in 24 games.
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Cameron Jordan
Height: 6-4 | Weight: 287 | 40-Time: 4.80

Official Bio

Strengths:
• Ideal size with extremely long arms / huge hands
• Excellent athleticism along with NFL bloodlines
• Good balance and agility as well as quick feet
• Displays a varied repertoire of pass rush moves
• A reliable tackler who will deliver the knockout hit
• Will disrupt passing lanes and bat down passes
• Active with good range and does nice job in pursuit
• Showcases violent hands and can get off of blocks
• Strong, powerful and stout at the point of attack
• Competitive and aggressive with a non-stop motor
• Polished technician and understands angles / leverage
• Fantastic football IQ, instincts and awareness
• Able to play multiple positions in different schemes
• Tough and a hard worker who strives for excellence
• Productive and durable with lots of quality experience

Weaknesses:
• Is not overly fast or explosive and lacks a burst
• Is not necessarily a dangerous threat off the edge
• Will struggle in space and doesn't look comfortable
• Will play out of control and lose contain at times
• Ran into some trouble off the field at one point
• Might be a bit of a positional / schematic 'tweener

Notes:
Was a three-year starter for the Bears --- Named 1st Team All-Pac-10 in 2010 --- Father, Steve, played tight end in the NFL for 13 seasons and made 6 Pro Bowl's --- Arrested in 2008 for suspicion of driving under the influence and served a one game suspension --- Extremely versatile and could project as a base end capable of moving inside to defensive tackle on occassion in a 4-3 scheme or to a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 front --- Underrated prospect who, like his former teammate Tyson Alualu, could end up being selected much earlier than most realize --- Isn't flashy and may never be a dynamic sack artist in the pros but should be a solid starter for a very long time.
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Lucky said:
Brown hasn't been a superstar, especially as a pass blocker. But, he's not a 3rd round talent, either. The Chargers were poised to snap up Brown with the next pick, so the idea the Texans reached on Brown was debunked on draft day.

I'm not going to blow sunshine up your arse about Kubiak and Smith and their outstanding drafts. But after years of neglecting the LT position, the Texans absolutely, positively had to find one in the '08 draft. Brown has stopped the hemorrhaging at the position.

I realize Mayock has become something of a draftnik folk hero. Maybe I'm the only one who remembers that he had A&M's Reggie McNeal as his #1 QB in the '06 draft for quite awhile. Mayock misses his share.
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As do all of them. However, Mayock seems to actually study and watch players very closely compared to the rest. His voice might get a little annoying after a while, but the info he's spewing is usually really good. I like Charles Davis too, maybe a little McGooish at times, but he does his due diligence as well. I won't even consider the other assbags who cover the draft. They aren't worth a penny they're paid.

Mayock and Davis FTW.....and it's not even close
 
BL, Although I agree with you not moving a guy up based on just a great Sr Bowl week. The scouts are going to move Jordan up to between 7-20.

See the Texans/Okoye

I think a slight move up may be in order. 17-25. But teams make mistakes when they base their draft on 1 wk of practice. How are you going to base the big board?

Off how we preceive the talent or where a player is most likely to be drafted?
 
steelbtexan said:
BL, Although I agree with you not moving a guy up based on just a great Sr Bowl week. The scouts are going to move Jordan up to between 7-20.

See the Texans/Okoye

I think a slight move up may be in order. 17-25. But teams make mistakes when they base their draft on 1 wk of practice. How are you going to base the big board?

Off how we preceive the talent or where a player is most likely to be drafted?
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everybody is different. style, passion, objectivity, agenda, experience or lack thereof etc. etc. etc.

when talking Texans draft its never added up, their history speaks for itself. closest thing to a Texan draft guru is LZ, if your goal is to mock the Texans with the most accuracy I would recommend following his work. to me LZ is better than anybody else out there & when he doesn't know something he brings in the best scouts out there to grill & impart their knowledge. this is not a plug its honest assessment from following his & John Harris work for years.

If you want to just follow & track where players are most likely to be drafted over the entire NFL, Kiper, McShay etc make a living doing it so they have inside sources as it gets closer to know how front offices feel about specific prospects.

This is my 8th season actively following the draft, mostly in response to poor results from my adopted team the Texans. Would like to get into it deeper, would be a great job if you could get it but resources only provide so much as a result I do cannot review film of all the prospects & have to count on scouts opinions I trust the most.

The really neat thing about being a draft junkie to me is its the perfect marriage between College Football & the NFL. Both exist to serve each other & only in these select months between the end of a College Football prospects career to possibly earning a full time living doing it is the road to the draft. to me its the ultimate entertainment & education of the pulse of youth today as they attempt to make their own marks in our collective conscious as our favorite athletes playing for our favorite team(s) the Texans. :texan:
 
They were in helmets only today. It was kinda boring unless you like watching the QBs. I'd rather watch defensive front 7's and Oline crackin in full pads. Guess I have to wait until Saturday afternoon. Gotta get my chores done early.
 
Lucky said:
I realize Mayock has become something of a draftnik folk hero. Maybe I'm the only one who remembers that he had A&M's Reggie McNeal as his #1 QB in the '06 draft for quite awhile. Mayock misses his share.
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Mayock is a legit draftnik hero, in part because he played the game as a DB in both college and in the NFL and has done years and years of scouting and player analysis. He's always a very entertaining and knowledgeable football guy who can teach 99.99 % of the NFL fans quite a bit. Somebody like Kiper listens to what others say, and then writes it down on a list he calls his own mock. Mayock listens to others, but he also knows enough about the game to do lots of his own player evaluation. But as you point out he makes bad calls like everyone does. Here's another example. In his final ratings of CBs before last years draft he has Kareem ranked ahead of McCourty. You know what, nobodys perfect.
Draft:
Cornerbacks
1Joe Haden*
Florida
2Kyle Wilson
Boise State
3Kareem Jackson*
Alabama
4Devin McCourty
Rutgers
T-5
Chris Cook
Virginia
T-5
Patrick Robinson
Florida State
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I'm really confused about Baylor NT Phil Taylor, because Mike Mayoc is now on record this week at the Senior Bowl as saying he's impessed by him, but Chronicle columnist and Baylor grad John McClain has watched him play a lot of ball and says he hasn't shown him much. And is their a bigger Baylor-homer than McClain ? What's that about ?
 
JimBaker488 said:
I'm really confused about Baylor NT Phil Taylor, because Mike Mayoc is now on record this week at the Senior Bowl as saying he's impessed by him, but Chronicle columnist and Baylor grad John McClain has watched him play a lot of ball and says he hasn't shown him much. And is their a bigger Baylor-homer than McClain ? What's that about ?
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John McClain knows squat compared to Mayock.
 
HOU-TEX said:
As do all of them. However, Mayock seems to actually study and watch players very closely compared to the rest. His voice might get a little annoying after a while, but the info he's spewing is usually really good. I like Charles Davis too, maybe a little McGooish at times, but he does his due diligence as well. I won't even consider the other assbags who cover the draft. They aren't worth a penny they're paid.

Mayock and Davis FTW.....and it's not even close
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smh.. charles davis is the most retarded 'expert' ive ever read.. too many horrible examples to choose from. hes literally clueless. look it up. agreed on mayock though
 
Maddict5 said:
smh.. charles davis is the most retarded 'expert' ive ever read.. too many horrible examples to choose from. hes literally clueless. look it up. agreed on mayock though
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He is a bit McGooish, but still does his due diligence. I'd listen to him before any espn assbag.

JB said:
Shake My Head
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Ah, gotcha. I thought I was being called a name in some kinda way
 
• Nebraska TE Lee Smith out of Marshall had a great first day blocking. He held up Cal defensive end Cameron Jordan in one of the first 7-on-7 drills and even pancaked Oklahoma’s Jeremy Beal. Smith seemed average in pass catching drills, but I was thoroughly impressed with his blocking.

• Wisconsin tight end Lance Kendricks had a great practice all around. He had a really nice block in one on ones and showed great effort as a whole blocking. In one on ones, he made some major adjustments to catch low passes and made a nice double move to beat Lawrence Wilson in coverage.

• Mike McNeill had a below average day. He did not particularly flash in one on one drills. In 7-on-7’s he struggled with a few blocks in both run and pass protection. Mediocre performance.

Because you know where drafting one..... Draftcountdown.com
 
JimBaker488 said:
I'm really confused about Baylor NT Phil Taylor, because Mike Mayoc is now on record this week at the Senior Bowl as saying he's impessed by him, but Chronicle columnist and Baylor grad John McClain has watched him play a lot of ball and says he hasn't shown him much. And is their a bigger Baylor-homer than McClain ? What's that about ?
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I'm not impressed with Taylor either. He reminds me of Terrence Cody in that he is a big, fat guy perfectly suited (body/size-wise) to be a 3-4 NT. Except, like Cody, he has no football skills...

There's more to playing football than just being really big. You need specific tools or skills and the guys that have the body and not the skills are the guys that bust.
 
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