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2010 Combine

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rmartin65

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I was thinking we could put the information we get from the combine into one thread, make it easier for everyone. In this thread we could discuss measurements and player interviews, especially those pertaining to the Texans.

There is a rumor that TCU's Marshall Newhouse has met with the Texans.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Health-of-Gronkowski-Gresham-on-center-stage.html

Here is NFL.com's combine center http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press

Look at Petrus, damn!
 
Mitch Petrus, 45 reps on the bench press, very impressive. He's got good size as well. If he does well in the agility drills then I'd like the Texans to take him in the 2nd or 3rd.
 
Wolf6151 said:
Mitch Petrus, 45 reps on the bench press, very impressive. He's got good size as well. If he does well in the agility drills then I'd like the Texans to take him in the 2nd or 3rd.
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Thats the thing- Petrus is supposed to be among the most athletic of all the linemen. And I see it when watching film, he is very fluid. I believe he even played FB at one point? That would be an interesting short yardage formation.
 
Petrus keeps moving up the amatures scouts list. He went from a 4th rounder to now 2nd rounder. I think the pro scouts already had him pegged. :spin:

I am already tired of the coverage done by the NFLnetwork, I am tired of Tebow. Stop talking about a weak class of QBs. Discuss the deep areas of the draft for once.
 
painekiller said:
Petrus keeps moving up the amatures scouts list. He went from a 4th rounder to now 2nd rounder. I think the pro scouts already had him pegged. :spin:

I am already tired of the coverage done by the NFLnetwork, I am tired of Tebow. Stop talking about a weak class of QBs. Discuss the deep areas of the draft for once.
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They wanna talk about the sizzle , not the steak .... Thats where their $$$ is. Stars that they can market.
 
rmartin65 said:
Hmm, Schefter is reporting faster times than NFL.com. Campbell is going to the Raiders now, no doubt. Holliday, depending on his agility drills, could be a fifth round pick.
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Yeah, I imagine he is reporting what one scout clocked him at. NFL.com is reporting what they believe to be the official times. But I dont think they become official for a few days.

But then again ?
 
Fell a sleep. Pretty impressive a 311 pound OT moving the forty yard dash @ 4.78. Bruce Campbell made himself some money to day. He was great in all of the drills. The only question about him is why doesn't the game tape match the numbers of the combine drills ? This kind of a big man with that athleticism should be rolling people up at the LOS.

A little disappointed in Iupatis' forty. 5.26 is good , but it isn't OLT speed. He looked natural running it. You could see he was gaining speed with every step.

Newhouse ran a great time. 5.07. All of these are unofficial. Watch the way they can run the forty. You can pretty much pick out the athletes from the bag of bolts and washers. The Kid from Abilene Christian, Washington had an incredible broad jump. Good indication of explosive hips. .

Pouncey had the numbers which match his college production. Pretty safe pick in any round. Looks powerful. runs with grace. He's a great Athlete, and a great Guard prospect.

Great group of TE's. No excuse for a club with a young QB not to grab one of these guys in the first three or four rounds. good thing that Kubes isn't there. Every shape and every size. Some great combo's of blocker-receiver. Some great blocking prospects with soft hands. Some Match up nightmares. Garret Graham of Wisconsin reminds me a lot of Joel Dreisen. Jimmy Graham looks like a good guy to grab in the last half of the draft.... fold him onto the practice squad and see what you have in 2012. He has the hands and workout numbers which suggest if he really wants it, he could be something special. He's going to be rawer than Jacoby Jones starting out. Which is why you could get him pretty cheap. With very few exceptions, all of them were good. You gotta figure after double dipping last year the odds are we won't bite at the tight end position this draft.

Hernandez of Fla. and the Arizona guy who looks like a beefed up Johnny Weissmuller chose to work out at their pro days. DNP.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/rob-gronkowski?id=497240
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Weissmuller
 
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Holliday is tearing it up. 42" vertical and a 9'8" broad jump.

EDIT: And a 6.54 cone drill, he easily has the agility to be a returner in the pros.
 
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rmartin65 said:
Holliday ran much slower than I expected, a 4.34 per NFL.com.
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He automatically becomes the fastest man in the NFL when he gets there.
He won the SEC 100 as a freshman and finished second in the NCAA 100.
The guy ran a virtual 10 flat (10.02). He and Jamaal Charles are both faster than Chris Johnson.
 
Marshall Newhouse would be a nice replacement for Chester Pitts, he has the size (6'3" 325-lbs) and did well at the combine IMO. Holliday would be a good pick, only if he was a bit taller!
 
threetoedpete said:
Bruce Campbell made himself some money to day. He was great in all of the drills. The only question about him is why doesn't the game tape match the numbers of the combine drills ?
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Because offensive tackles aren't asked to run 40 yards much. If ever.
 
threetoedpete said:
Fell a sleep. Pretty impressive a 311 pound OT moving the forty yard dash @ 4.78. Bruce Campbell made himself some money to day. He was great in all of the drills. The only question about him is why doesn't the game tape match the numbers of the combine drills ? This kind of a big man with that athleticism should be rolling people up at the LOS.

A little disappointed in Iupatis' forty. 5.26 is good , but it isn't OLT speed. He looked natural running it. You could see he was gaining speed with every step.

Newhouse ran a great time. 5.07. All of these are unofficial. Watch the way they can run the forty. You can pretty much pick out the athletes from the bag of bolts and washers. The Kid from Abilene Christian, Washington had an incredible broad jump. Good indication of explosive hips. .

Pouncey had the numbers which match his college production. Pretty safe pick in any round. Looks powerful. runs with grace. He's a great Athlete, and a great Guard prospect.

Great group of TE's. No excuse for a club with a young QB not to grab one of these guys in the first three or four rounds. good thing that Kubes isn't there. Every shape and every size. Some great combo's of blocker-receiver. Some great blocking prospects with soft hands. Some Match up nightmares. Garret Graham of Wisconsin reminds me a lot of Joel Dreisen. Jimmy Graham looks like a good guy to grab in the last half of the draft.... fold him onto the practice squad and see what you have in 2012. He has the hands and workout numbers which suggest if he really wants it, he could be something special. He's going to be rawer than Jacoby Jones starting out. Which is why you could get him pretty cheap. With very few exceptions, all of them were good. You gotta figure after double dipping last year the odds are we won't bite at the tight end position this draft.

Hernandez of Fla. and the Arizona guy who looks like a beefed up Johnny Weissmuller chose to work out at their pro days. DNP.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/rob-gronkowski?id=497240
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Weissmuller
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Campbell reminded me of Jason Smith last year, anyway how did he do as a rookie in St. Louis? oh yeah the Rams are picking #1 now instead of #2. regardless very impressive, think it was mentioned had played in only 17 games. very raw but gifted.
 
beerlover said:
Campbell reminded me of Jason Smith last year, anyway how did he do as a rookie in St. Louis? oh yeah the Rams are picking #1 now instead of #2. regardless very impressive, think it was mentioned had played in only 17 games. very raw but gifted.
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Yeah, his thing is his inexperience. He tried to make it sound like a positive. No bad habits to unlearn, blah blah blah. :)

It's going to be interesting to see how he develops.
 
Lucky said:
Because offensive tackles aren't asked to run 40 yards much. If ever.
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Yeah well you can tell that to Ulatoski and his pedestrian 5.45. The only thing he'll be buying next year is a whistle. As close as he'll get to a playing field next fall will be coaching the highschool lads. Same goes for eveyones darlin' in Here Mike Johnson. Told ya!
5.38 is laughable in the ZBS. Even for a guard. Don't know what the Texans could do with him. Dress him up let him watch the door on Kirby, I suppose.
 
So you've got a 226 pound TE. 6'4" and he posts a 4.66...i.e almost as fast as
Jerry Rice when he came out. Is that there thing a really quick TE. Or a very big and Quick #2 wide reciever ? Look at his hand size. Raw like Jacoby was when he came out.Don't think he was asked to block a lot at Pittsburg. But someone looking for a little versatility will get a woody for the guy. He's got to want to block. some guy like it . Some guys don't. Until he proves he can block with vim & vinegar, he's just a shinny H-back. Nothing more. If he learns to block he becomes elite.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dorin-dickerson?id=497222

And the poundster, Maurice Pouncey, is only three oh five boys. No different than what we already have on the squad.
 
threetoedpete said:
A little disappointed in Iupatis' forty. 5.26 is good , but it isn't OLT speed. He looked natural running it. You could see he was gaining speed with every step.
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Well, if we target him I expect we are looking at him as a guard so, the speed shouldn't bother us and might make him last a little longer down to us at 20.

If he was screaming "I'm a LT" he'd be gone well before we get the option to take him.
 
The guy from Hillsdale College, Jared Veldheer, did really well in the combine, would make a good left/right tackle. 6'8" 312-lbs with a 33-inch arm.
 
threetoedpete said:
5.38 is laughable in the ZBS. Even for a guard. Don't know what the Texans could do with him. Dress him up let him watch the door on Kirby, I suppose.
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threetoedpete said:
A little disappointed in Iupatis' forty. 5.26 is good , but it isn't OLT speed. He looked natural running it. You could see he was gaining speed with every step.
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So 12 hundreths of a second over 40 yards can determine whether one player can block for the Texans and another one can't?
 
threetoedpete said:
So you've got a 226 pound TE. 6'4" and he posts a 4.66...i.e almost as fast as
Jerry Rice when he came out. Is that there thing a really quick TE. Or a very big and Quick #2 wide reciever ? Look at his hand size. Raw like Jacoby was when he came out.Don't think he was asked to block a lot at Pittsburg. But someone looking for a little versatility will get a woody for the guy. He's got to want to block. some guy like it . Some guys don't. Until he proves he can block with vim & vinegar, he's just a shinny H-back. Nothing more. If he learns to block he becomes elite.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dorin-dickerson?id=497222

And the poundster, Maurice Pouncey, is only three oh five boys. No different than what we already have on the squad.
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They let Dickerson try out WR at the Senior Bowl and he didn't do too well. Not a good enough blocker to play TE so I think we're looking at a H Back.
 
For once I think the Raiders well make a good draft pick if they take Bruce Campbell, offensive tackle from Maryland.

As for CJ Spiller, he may be gone but we can draft Javid Best in the 2nd (but we may have to move up in the 2nd to get him).
 
No to Best, please! Best is an injury waiting to happen, with less skills than Reggie Bush. He wont be able to run inside for ****. He is not the dangerous returner that Bush is. He is basically a slower Bush with less potential and more injury concerns.
 
Texan4Ever said:
For once I think the Raiders well make a good draft pick if they take Bruce Campbell, offensive tackle from Maryland.

As for CJ Spiller, he may be gone but we can draft Javid Best in the 2nd (but we may have to move up in the 2nd to get him).
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Campbell would be the same kind of pick that the Raiders always make. He looks fantastic in shorts but he doesn't play up to his athletic ability. Just look at his tape.
 
rmartin65 said:
No to Best, please! Best is an injury waiting to happen, with less skills than Reggie Bush. He wont be able to run inside for ****. He is not the dangerous returner that Bush is. He is basically a slower Bush with less potential and more injury concerns.
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What about one of the SEC guys falling to the 4th ?

Right now I would love to trade back . I'm not sure of the point thing but our 1st for a 2nd and 3rd .

2A Kyle Wilson CB
2B Nate Allen FS
3A Roger Saffold G
3B Ben Tate , Hardesty, or Dixon ... Dixon is a big guy with good feet .
 
JB said:
Official time of 4.37
Best with 4.35
Tate with 4.43
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What is really funny is that there has only been about three of us on Tate's bandwagon, but with his performance at the combine now everybody is gonna come out and say that they have been a fan of his all along.
 
Ive read Spiller at 4.27. Dude is wicked fast.

Ryan Matthews ran 4.41 which is good for a big back.

WR Golden Tate is the big winner today. People questioned his speed and his 4.36 will no doubt move him up.
 
mariowillshine15 said:
Ive read Spiller at 4.27. Dude is wicked fast.

Ryan Matthews ran 4.41 which is good for a big back.

WR Golden Tate is the big winner today. People questioned his speed and his 4.36 will no doubt move him up.
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Those are all unofficial hand times.

The official times I have seen are:
Spiller - 4.37
Mathews - 4.53
Golden Tate - 4.42
 
nero THE zero said:
Hardesty killing it at the combine:

40 yard dash - 4.49
Bench press - 21
Vertical Jump - 41" (1st)
Broad Jump - 10'4" (1st)
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My guy tore it up.

I like Tate alot too. Gerhart proved alot today also.

The guys I like during the season always move up a rd or 2. (Newhouse,Hardesty,Tate and D.Williams for example.)
 
bah007 said:
Oops you're right. For some reason I wrote down Lonyae Miller's time. Thanks.
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So after seeing the times which running backs is everybody smitten with right now?

Ive always liked Spiller but i doubt he falls to 20.

Ryan Matthews is really impressive. To have that size and can run away from defenses.

From what ive seen of him in games and now his 40 i think he'd be great in the 2nd.
 
mariowillshine15 said:
So after seeing the times which running backs is everybody smitten with right now?

Ive always liked Spiller but i doubt he falls to 20.

Ryan Matthews is really impressive. To have that size and can run away from defenses.

From what ive seen of him in games and now his 40 i think he'd be great in the 2nd.
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I think Mathews will be a Charger in the 1st .
 
mariowillshine15 said:
So after seeing the times which running backs is everybody smitten with right now?

Ive always liked Spiller but i doubt he falls to 20.

Ryan Matthews is really impressive. To have that size and can run away from defenses.

From what ive seen of him in games and now his 40 i think he'd be great in the 2nd.
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Since the very beginning I have maintained that I believe the best backs in this class will end up being Mathews and Tate. Their performance in the combine has had no impact on that belief as I believe that running drills in shorts does not compare at all to what a RB is asked to do on the field.

They can both power it up the middle, block, catch, and have enough speed to take it to the outside. Both would be perfect for our offense.

I have had Mathews going in the first round to SD for a while now and I have had a late 2nd/early 3rd grade on Tate.
 
I will admit, I was never a Tate fan. His play to me suggested that he had limited athletic potential. It appears that I was well off the mark there.

On a side note, is anyone else a little worried about McClusters lack of explosiveness? 4.58 40 time, did not qualify for NFL.com's top 10 list for broad jump, only the 6th best vertical. I know tests are not everything, not even half of things, but for a guys his size speed and explosiveness are huge. I think, given the choice between Holliday and McCluster, I would go with Holliday.
 
rmartin65 said:
I will admit, I was never a Tate fan. His play to me suggested that he had limited athletic potential. It appears that I was well off the mark there.

On a side note, is anyone else a little worried about McClusters lack of explosiveness? 4.58 40 time, did not qualify for NFL.com's top 10 list for broad jump, only the 6th best vertical. I know tests are not everything, not even half of things, but for a guys his size speed and explosiveness are huge. I think, given the choice between Holliday and McCluster, I would go with Holliday.
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I thought Tate was a top 3 WR and the Combine has moved him up to the 2nd spot in my opinion, but Bryant is still everyones #1
 
rmartin65 said:
I will admit, I was never a Tate fan. His play to me suggested that he had limited athletic potential. It appears that I was well off the mark there.

On a side note, is anyone else a little worried about McClusters lack of explosiveness? 4.58 40 time, did not qualify for NFL.com's top 10 list for broad jump, only the 6th best vertical. I know tests are not everything, not even half of things, but for a guys his size speed and explosiveness are huge. I think, given the choice between Holliday and McCluster, I would go with Holliday.
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I think your taking the testing too far. On the field McCluster is a beast, Holliday was a returner and nothing more really.

Some players test fast, some play fast and McCluster is great on the field.
 
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