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Vince Young does not rule ass

Honoring Earl 34 said:
Everybody loses now and then ... its what you do when on the big stage .

Vince Young - Madison / UT / TBD

Montana - ND huge 4th quarter comeback cotton bowl / NFL all time great .

Jordan -game winning shot as a frosh NCAA championship game / you know the rest .

Clements - CWS win 1983 / do I really have to go on .

I think some guys are just wired to be great when it counts .
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You forgot Larry Bird's 2nd year game 7 vs. philly down by 1 with 10 sec left loose ball at Celtics foul line Larry picks it up dribbles down the side and pulls up for a 19' off the glass shot from the side Celtics Win 91-90

As for MJ he had to wait until Celtics and Pistons got old and retired before he won his 6. Took MJ 7 years to win his 1st title!
 
Young leading ROY race
posted: Wednesday, December 6, 2006 | Feedback | Print Entry
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This is how crazy it's gotten in Tennessee: I sat in a suburban Nashville mall watching Rob Bironas getting interviewed for a local radio show. Now, you would have to work hard to find a better story from Sunday's action than Bironas, the former Arena Leaguer who kicked a 60-yard field goal off grass and outdoors to beat the Colts.

But comparing him to Tom Brady? Yes, it happened. Bironas is now considered Nashville's Brady, according to the show's host. Not saying Bironas isn't clutch or a ladies' man, but please.

Still, the more time I spend in the Music City the more I'm convinced that it's the keeper of the Offensive Rookie of the Year. Seriously, it's remarkable what Vince Young has done in his young NFL career: five wins and reviving a team that looked awful in the first few months to playoff contention, which can't be said for any Titans team this late in the season since 2003.

While Young's completion percentage (49 percent) is worst among NFL starters, he's developed that knack for magic that struggling teams need to rally behind. Young's passing doesn't look pretty but he pulls out tight wins. He's toppled the Manning brothers in consecutive weeks. No one saw that coming. We'll see how it plays out, and there are certainly other deserving rookies, but unless this team falls apart, Young is winning the ROY, even if Tennessee doesn't reach the playoffs.
 
It is really amazing how the VY fans just ignore everything negative about the guy and ust continue to plod through the muck with the "intangibles" and IT.


Congrats to the Titans and congrats to Vince for their season. An objective look at the games would reveal a Titan defense that has come alive. But objectivity does not exist here for the Carr haters and those who bow down at the alter that is Vince.

:sarcasm:Tennessee has not won their games by being the 4th leading rushing team in the NFL and they have not called conservative games so that VY doesn't beat them with his mistakes. NO! It has been VY...all VY all the time. Putting that team on his shoulders and leading drive after memorable drive to victory.

It was all VY that willed the hideous personal foul penalty on the Giants on a 4th down that kept the Titans alive. It was his remarkable escapability on another 4th down play that caused a Giant defender to let go of him. How can you bring down a God? You can't. No one can. Vince is remarkable. Without fault. You've sold me.

The Titan defense shut down the Colts and made several amazing plays to put the Titans in a position to win. Vince Young obviously was the major factor in Peyton Manning's two interceptions.

Vince did not throw up a ball for grabs in the endzone that was picked off. A ball that had no business being thrown, without any pressure on him sailed through the Nashville sky beautifully as only VY can throw them. Unfortunately, there must have been some kind of pass interference or someone made some kind of mistake or something, becasue there is NO WAY VY does jack wrong!

His legendary performance ON THE ROAD against Philly will go down in history as perhaps the greatest game ever from any player to play the quarterback position. VY went up against a team that went to the SUPER BOWL (two years ago) with one of the fiercest defenses in the league (five years ago) and just gave that football to Travis Henry like no one before him. Do you seriously think Kerry Collins could hand the ball off like that to Henry? Could anyone? No way! I'm sold.

Go Vince!
See you in Canton.
I think he will be the first player inducted into the Hall before he retires. They'll hand him the bust right after he wins his third Super Bowl in 2010.
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BattleRedToro said:
That was Carr's rookie season and he threw several long passes that year. He is 1 INT/ 50.43 Att this year.
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DC STATS are probably better? But DC has not turn the Texans around like VY is doing with the Titans and my worst fears are starting to happen! VY is a leader and a winner and DC is not! This was suppose to be DC's year! VY is going to be carried off on his teammates shoulders and the Texans will be looking for another QB for years to come! Its a "damn shame" Texans will always be saying " Damn we had our chance to get VY" as the Texans watch VY in the playoffs year after year!
 
AlbinoRat said:
for those of you who havent realized it yet, i dont like VY

Carr (yes thats right David Carr) has outperformed him bigtime.
David Garrard the bench guy has done better
Even the 80 year old Brett Farve has done better

also for those who compared his running style to mike vick
young-225 yards
vick-704 yards, and has also out passed him

sorry, my friend used to be all about vince young, now im weening him off. I never really thought id say this but i hope he doesnt succeed in the nfl, because he is so overrated.

by the way if you want a laugh, go to youtube.com and search "vince young mack brown" and click on the love affair one. It's really funny, even you longhorn fans will giggle. thanks for letting me rant
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I guess you REALLY don't like VY now :bguitar: Is he still over rated now? I thought it was the Rose Bowl all over again:highfive:
 
I don't know...I think USC could have beaten the Texans...

Congrats to VY for a stellar game. I knew he would be hitting on all four cylinders for this game, and he showed it. I still wish we could have won, but them's the breaks.
 
Does the original poster watch football or just talk about it? He must be in an alternate universe where Vince Young is a 3rd string WR on the Lions and Ryan Leaf has won 4 Super Bowls.
 
Bongo59 said:
you still buying it friend?
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it's called:
ROSE-COLORED GLASSES - "Some unfortunate people never take their rose-colored glasses off, but everyone wears these spectacles occasionally. This attitude of cheerful optimism, of seeing everything in an attractive, pleasant light, has always been with us, while the expression itself goes back to at least 1861, when it is first recorded in 'Tom Brown at Oxford': 'Oxford was a sort of Utopia to the Captain.He continued to behold towers, and quadrangles, and chapels, through rose-colored glasses." From the "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997)
 
25/35, 201 yards, 0 TDs, 4 INTs

Tom Brady's stat line from Week 9 vs the Colts.

It'd be pretty lame for anybody to try to point out any single week as proof that a QB is not good.

That being said, que Merrill Hoge ragging on Vince for his performance yesterday.
 
TNTitan said:
he didnt have a bad game yesterday, he just wasnt on the field!
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Could the team's 0 - 8 on 3rd down conversions (6 incomplete passes and a sack for Young on 7 of 'em) have something to do with that?

I like Vince, but he did have a bad game yesterday.
 
I think -18 yards of total offense for Vince in the second half is proof positive that the VY fans need to take a week off at the very least.

Not saying he is through in the NFL.
Not saying he won't be good.

But he was horrible yesterday. The thing that Jeff Fisher and his staff does that the Texans do not, is that they put Vince in a position to be successful. They also put him in positions NOT to fail. They ran the ball twice on third and long yesterday. They had no confidence in VY yesterday and rightfully so. He was putrid. But they relied on their defense to win the game and were VERY FORTUNATE that the Jaguars gave them two interceptions for touchdowns, a fumble recovery touchdown and a partridge in a pear tree.

I've spoken to some imbeciles on here who actually are so smitten by VY that they credited Vince with the win yesterday! That it was his leadership and pride that just went through the team like wildfire and gave the franchise hope! Um....no! Not yesterday. Watch the game. He wasn't leading from the bench when Jacksonville was pounding down the Jags defense's throat. He didn't stand up with some "win one for the Younger speech." The Jags made three horrendous mistakes, had a touchdown taken off the board and called three jump ball plays from the one foot line.

Sometimes teams win despite their quarterback's performance and the Titans did just that. They have done so on numerous occassions this year and on the Vince streak. Other teams who have done this are the Bears, the Bills and the Chargers.

But the sensitive Vince fans rush to the alter of Vince and declare him the savior. Whatever. He was bad yesterday. Taped the game on the dish and watched it all. He stunk.
 
coachdent said:
I think -18 yards of total offense for Vince in the second half is proof positive that the VY fans need to take a week off at the very least.

Not saying he is through in the NFL.
Not saying he won't be good.

But he was horrible yesterday. The thing that Jeff Fisher and his staff does that the Texans do not, is that they put Vince in a position to be successful. They also put him in positions NOT to fail. They ran the ball twice on third and long yesterday. They had no confidence in VY yesterday and rightfully so. He was putrid. But they relied on their defense to win the game and were VERY FORTUNATE that the Jaguars gave them two interceptions for touchdowns, a fumble recovery touchdown and a partridge in a pear tree.

I've spoken to some imbeciles on here who actually are so smitten by VY that they credited Vince with the win yesterday! That it was his leadership and pride that just went through the team like wildfire and gave the franchise hope! Um....no! Not yesterday. Watch the game. He wasn't leading from the bench when Jacksonville was pounding down the Jags defense's throat. He didn't stand up with some "win one for the Younger speech." The Jags made three horrendous mistakes, had a touchdown taken off the board and called three jump ball plays from the one foot line.

Sometimes teams win despite their quarterback's performance and the Titans did just that. They have done so on numerous occassions this year and on the Vince streak. Other teams who have done this are the Bears, the Bills and the Chargers.

But the sensitive Vince fans rush to the alter of Vince and declare him the savior. Whatever. He was bad yesterday. Taped the game on the dish and watched it all. He stunk.
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Um.....The jags had the ball for 45 minutes vince had under 10 offensive series, Vince didnt have to do crap but not turn the ball over and he didnt. its obvious you dont watch the titans.Our defense won Vince got a much needed break......Get your facts straight next time.
(someone still is pissed about the texans game,:tearup: :thumbdown
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We are talking about a rookie? right?

Going up against one of the top defenses in the leauge ?



Yeah....VY sucks.....
 
If you didn't watch the game you need to be quiet. We had the ball for 15 minutes. Our defense scored 3 TDs. Our offense couldn't get a rhythm cause they weren't on the field.

Granted Vince Young looked bad when he had the ball, but a lot of quarterbacks play bad for 15 minutes of a game.

So I will say it again, we had the ball for 15 minutes. Our defense scored too fast! j/k
 
doughboy said:
Um.....The jags had the ball for 45 minutes vince had under 10 offensive series]
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When you don't convert a single 3rd down (including 6 three and outs) you tend to not keep the ball very long.

Vince's stats weren't bad because TN didn't have the ball much; TN didn't have the ball much because Vince was bad. Of course when you win, its ALL good.
 
TD Rivers said:
When you don't convert a single 3rd down (including 6 three and outs) you tend to not keep the ball very long.

Vince's stats weren't bad because TN didn't have the ball much; TN didn't have the ball much because Vince was bad. Of course when you win, its ALL good.
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Yeah, we are 7-7. That's a non-losing record!
 
TD Rivers said:
When you don't convert a single 3rd down (including 6 three and outs) you tend to not keep the ball very long.

Vince's stats weren't bad because TN didn't have the ball much; TN didn't have the ball much because Vince was bad. Of course when you win, its ALL good.
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You watch way to much ESPN. Vince threw the most beautiful pass I have seen in a long time. And as far as first downs we ran it on 3rd down 75% of the time. If you didnt watch the game dont bother ripping vince.
 
TD Rivers said:
When you don't convert a single 3rd down (including 6 three and outs) you tend to not keep the ball very long.

Vince's stats weren't bad because TN didn't have the ball much; TN didn't have the ball much because your defense got 3 touchdowns and had to go back on the feild. Of course when you win, its ALL good.
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fixed your post.
 
Eli manning one of the best passes Ive seen. He hit plaxico over the sholder right in the hands for over 45 yards,
 
doughboy said:
And as far as first downs we ran it on 3rd down 75% of the time. If you didnt watch the game dont bother ripping vince.
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Reading is fundamental. LINK

3rd and 4 at TEN 47 (11:54) T.Henry up the middle to TEN 48 for 1 yard

3rd and 3 at TEN 29 (1:41) V.Young pass incomplete short left to D.Bennett

3rd and 2 at JAX 40 (9:17) V.Young pass incomplete deep right to D.Bennett.

3rd and 8 at TEN 32 (6:44) (Shotgun) V.Young pass incomplete deep middle to B.Wade.

3rd and 6 at JAX 26 (:17) V.Young pass incomplete to D.Bennett.

3rd and 5 at JAX 9 (13:32) V.Young pass incomplete short left to D.Bennett.

3rd and 7 at TEN 32 (4:43) V.Young sacked at TEN 12 for -20 yards

3rd and 12 at JAX 44 (1:12) V.Young pass incomplete short left to B.Jones


I don't know about Possum Holler, but to most of the country 1 of 8 is 12.5%, not 75%.

This stuff cracks me up. Honesty about VY makes you a "hater" one week and in "man love" the next. Isn't there anything in between like, I don't know..... the truth. He's a rookie with a tremendous upside. He's had good and bad games. Last week was bad. Deal with it.
 
TD Rivers said:
Reading is fundamental. LINK

3rd and 4 at TEN 47 (11:54) T.Henry up the middle to TEN 48 for 1 yard

3rd and 3 at TEN 29 (1:41) V.Young pass incomplete short left to D.Bennett

3rd and 2 at JAX 40 (9:17) V.Young pass incomplete deep right to D.Bennett.

3rd and 8 at TEN 32 (6:44) (Shotgun) V.Young pass incomplete deep middle to B.Wade.

3rd and 6 at JAX 26 (:17) V.Young pass incomplete to D.Bennett.

3rd and 5 at JAX 9 (13:32) V.Young pass incomplete short left to D.Bennett.

3rd and 7 at TEN 32 (4:43) V.Young sacked at TEN 12 for -20 yards

3rd and 12 at JAX 44 (1:12) V.Young pass incomplete short left to B.Jones


I don't know about Possum Holler, but to most of the country 1 of 8 is 12.5%, not 75%.

This stuff cracks me up. Honesty about VY makes you a "hater" one week and in "man love" the next. Isn't there anything in between like, I don't know..... the truth. He's a rookie with a tremendous upside. He's had good and bad games. Last week was bad. Deal with it.
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I know we didnt run the ball 75% of the time on 3rd down it was a wrong choice of words. But I dont see how you said vince had a bad game. david carr had a bad day. Vince young the first time he played the jags had a bad day but today he did what he had to and didnt turn the ball over. The only bad play he had is instead of taking a sack he threw the ball away. Watch the game not sportscenter.
 
AlbinoRat said:
for those of you who havent realized it yet, i dont like VY

Carr (yes thats right David Carr) has outperformed him bigtime.
David Garrard the bench guy has done better
Even the 80 year old Brett Farve has done better

also for those who compared his running style to mike vick
young-225 yards
vick-704 yards, and has also out passed him

sorry, my friend used to be all about vince young, now im weening him off. I never really thought id say this but i hope he doesnt succeed in the nfl, because he is so overrated.

by the way if you want a laugh, go to youtube.com and search "vince young mack brown" and click on the love affair one. It's really funny, even you longhorn fans will giggle. thanks for letting me rant
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Watching Vince Young take that in for the game winning TD in OT against us must have hurt you real bad son!
 
coachdent said:
I think -18 yards of total offense for Vince in the second half is proof positive that the VY fans need to take a week off at the very least.

Not saying he is through in the NFL.
Not saying he won't be good.

But he was horrible yesterday. The thing that Jeff Fisher and his staff does that the Texans do not, is that they put Vince in a position to be successful. They also put him in positions NOT to fail. They ran the ball twice on third and long yesterday. They had no confidence in VY yesterday and rightfully so. He was putrid. But they relied on their defense to win the game and were VERY FORTUNATE that the Jaguars gave them two interceptions for touchdowns, a fumble recovery touchdown and a partridge in a pear tree.

I've spoken to some imbeciles on here who actually are so smitten by VY that they credited Vince with the win yesterday! That it was his leadership and pride that just went through the team like wildfire and gave the franchise hope! Um....no! Not yesterday. Watch the game. He wasn't leading from the bench when Jacksonville was pounding down the Jags defense's throat. He didn't stand up with some "win one for the Younger speech." The Jags made three horrendous mistakes, had a touchdown taken off the board and called three jump ball plays from the one foot line.

Sometimes teams win despite their quarterback's performance and the Titans did just that. They have done so on numerous occassions this year and on the Vince streak. Other teams who have done this are the Bears, the Bills and the Chargers.

But the sensitive Vince fans rush to the alter of Vince and declare him the savior. Whatever. He was bad yesterday. Taped the game on the dish and watched it all. He stunk.
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I'll give you VY detractors yesterday. But you all have to admit, since the Titans started 0-5 what have they changed since game six to now? Maybe his presence may be worth a little more than people are willing to give him credit for. I see the Titans situation kinda like the Rockets in a sense. We all know Yao is the horse (running game/defense) but the Rockets have a losing record without McGrady (VY) in the line up. Has McGrady played spectacular this year? I even think he will tell you no but when he is on the court he has to be accounted for. I'm not crowning VY as a pro bowler just yet but you have to see the parallels for what they are worth. Sure we all see the games and say his performances are give and take. But that's what being a team is all about. Just giving a little different perspective on the spin.
 
AlbinoRat said:
for those of you who havent realized it yet, i dont like VY

Carr (yes thats right David Carr) has outperformed him bigtime.
David Garrard the bench guy has done better
Even the 80 year old Brett Farve has done better

also for those who compared his running style to mike vick
young-225 yards
vick-704 yards, and has also out passed him

sorry, my friend used to be all about vince young, now im weening him off. I never really thought id say this but i hope he doesnt succeed in the nfl, because he is so overrated.

by the way if you want a laugh, go to youtube.com and search "vince young mack brown" and click on the love affair one. It's really funny, even you longhorn fans will giggle. thanks for letting me rant
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Classic post that proves you win with winners. Period. Carr can stat it up and lose by 30. VY can stink it up and win by 10. You tell me what's going on. It's called winning time and VY owns it.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I figured more people would realize that this was the reason for the Titans' recent success. Vince Young? Are you kidding me? It's Seth Wand.
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Of course not, but do you think he is happier with the Titans than he would have been taking Wiegert's roster spot when Zach went down?.
 
Runner said:
Of course not, but do you think he is happier with the Titans than he would have been taking Wiegert's roster spot when Zach went down?.
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Yea...the guy has never really won in the NFL before. It's got to be more fun for him...even if he is not playing for that team yet.
 
TD Rivers said:
Reading is fundamental. LINK

3rd and 4 at TEN 47 (11:54) T.Henry up the middle to TEN 48 for 1 yard

3rd and 3 at TEN 29 (1:41) V.Young pass incomplete short left to D.Bennett

3rd and 2 at JAX 40 (9:17) V.Young pass incomplete deep right to D.Bennett.

3rd and 8 at TEN 32 (6:44) (Shotgun) V.Young pass incomplete deep middle to B.Wade.

3rd and 6 at JAX 26 (:17) V.Young pass incomplete to D.Bennett.

3rd and 5 at JAX 9 (13:32) V.Young pass incomplete short left to D.Bennett.

3rd and 7 at TEN 32 (4:43) V.Young sacked at TEN 12 for -20 yards

3rd and 12 at JAX 44 (1:12) V.Young pass incomplete short left to B.Jones


I don't know about Possum Holler, but to most of the country 1 of 8 is 12.5%, not 75%.

This stuff cracks me up. Honesty about VY makes you a "hater" one week and in "man love" the next. Isn't there anything in between like, I don't know..... the truth. He's a rookie with a tremendous upside. He's had good and bad games. Last week was bad. Deal with it.
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Not going to go down as one of VY's shining moments of his rookie season (especially with so many bonafide shining moments already) but, for the record, the 3rd and 3 at the Tenn 29 was a well thrown pass, just the refs decided to let Bennett be unequivocally mugged that play without throwing the flag (the defender had one of his arms pinned down with one of his own arms and had his other arm wrapped around Bennett's waist hooking him to the defender....pathetically blown call) and on the 3rd and 6 at the Jax 26, the pass was perfectly thrown, even with decent coverage, Bennett caught it, got flattened, and as he came down out of bounds he lost the ball on impact with the ground and it was ruled an incompletion. VY is doing just fine in his rookie year. I remember his first year starting at Texas, most remember some of his second, and what person who likes football at all (except ol' Hoge-of-One-Too-Many-Shots-To-The-Head) doesn't know all about his third. Yep, he already has 7 wins in an abbreviated rookie season. Cannot wait to see what he is doing by his third, if not his second, if not this year in the playoffs if a little holiday miracle or two occurs.:ok:
 
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