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Game 11 Thread: Texans @ Jets

They're pretty hard to watch today. The defense was pretty game for most of the first half but of course our secondary couldn't stop anybody so it's all a moot point. The offense today was just poor. I see a lot of people trashing David Carr and they're pretty far off base with that mess. It looked bad top to bottom and to focus all the blame on one guy just shows the rest of the board that you don't know what you're looking at.
 
Williams beat D'Brick - I don't know how many times he lined up against him though.
 
what i would be concerned about if i was the owner of the texans...i would at least want to see the offense try and take shots down the field so that the fans watching at the games and at home on TV can have a reason to be excited. we are a 3-7 football team, why not take some chances? at least if u fail, u will fail in a blaze of glory. when u are throwing dinks and dumps to the tailbacks and being conservative when ur 3-7, ur only going to increase the speed of fans losing interest in the team 2x what it was before. thats not the message we need to be sending to the fans, including the very loyal ones. if u are concerned that taking chances down the field would possibly subject carr to more punishment, then thats tough. its what u should expect when u havent won anything in 5 yrs.
 
yeah, Chad whups the crowd into a fenzy.... not like our team is not doing that.

ramsey is in for a play, incomplete to Coles
 
No, he has no options. kubes has stated he calls the play and expects it to be run.

Every passing play has more than one option, its the QB to pick the best option not the coach, I've supported and stuck up for Carr, but I'm starting to wear thin, he may have had the talent beat out of him. Maybe he will become the next Harrington somewhere else, I don't know and don't care. I'm tired of seeing rookies come in this league and outperform him.......Big Ben, Rivers, and Romo. Remember last year when the bears were winning games with Orton, why.............because we was a game manager. Carr 9 times out of 10 won't make the big mistake to cost you the win, just like Orton, but also 9 times out of 10 he won't win you the game either. A #1 ovrl. pick who is paid 7 mil a year should win you games.......period.........period.

I believe Kubiak is a good coach, I just hope he survives Carr. I'm not a Carr hater, anybody thats been here knows I've supported him, he needs to start winning games..........damn he's supposed to be a franchise QB, he's in his 5th year. franchise QBs that play on bad teams show flashes.....show smarts.....show a feel for the game, when has Carr honestly shown you that......honestly.....lets be real for a sec. again I have supported and stuck my neck out for 5 years....

The excuses we use for Carr, are excuses people use for rookie QBs

excuse me I need another BEER!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry if I made anybody mad.
 
Defense stops the Jets - now F'N step up offsense!!! Starting at the 20 after the punt into the endzone.
 
Alright Offense, put some f'n points on the board!!

Had points taken off the board in the 1st half w/ untimely penaties & dropped passes...we need a "clean" drive.
 
Every passing play has more than one option, its the QB to pick the best option not the coach, I've supported and stuck up for Carr, but I'm starting to wear thin, he may have had the talent beat out of him. Maybe he will become the next Harrington somewhere else, I don't know and don't care. I'm tired of seeing rookies come in this league and outperform him.......Big Ben, Rivers, and Romo. Remember last year when the bears were winning games with Orton, why.............because we was a game manager. Carr 9 times out of 10 won't make the big mistake to cost you the win, just like Orton, but also 9 times out of 10 he won't win you the game either. A #1 ovrl. pick who is paid 7 mil a year should win you games.......period.........period.

I believe Kubiak is a good coach, I just hope he survives Carr. I'm not a Carr hater, anybody thats been here knows I've supported him, he needs to start winning games..........damn he's supposed to be a franchise QB, he's in his 5th year. franchise QBs that play on bad teams show flashes.....show smarts.....show a feel for the game, when has Carr honestly shown you that......honestly.....lets be real for a sec. again I have supported and stuck my neck out for 5 years....

The excuses we use for Carr, are excuses people use for rookie QBs

excuse me I need another BEER!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry if I made anybody mad

To start with there are not options on ever pass play. On a screen pass you must make the pass to the RB no other options. As for Carr and 5 years. He has had 3 OCs in that time and the second damaged Carr more than anyone knows. He is a rookie in Kubiack's system. I have all the games on DVD. I go back and watch year 3 and Carr looks pretty good. He threw for 3,500 yard that season. Every one of the QB's you mentioned has way more talent than the Texans have ever had.
 
I've been a Carr supporter for five years. I've been a Carr supporter every single damn game. When Kubiak pulled Carr out, i was upset. When Carr kept fumbling, i wanted him to stay in. When Carr finally threw a TD, i'd cheer. But god damn it, I'm starting to hate this guy.
 
one thing i dont understand about David is why does it seem he doesnt go too other options it just seems its 1st read if that is not open dump of to the rb.
 
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