The Rise of Hannah

[Double Barrel]

Here are the chronological events leading up to the past Draft, as confirmed by 2 of my inside sources and consistent with @Corrosion findings.>

If Young were to drop to the Texans, Cal was still had some reservations, but he would have picked him up. Cal chose Demeco as the new head coach, promising him the OKay to pick his most desired defensive player (much like he did with Lovie with Stingley pick). This was Anderson from the beginning.......for both Demeco and Caserio. Once Young was off the table, things got complicated in that Cal did NOT want Stroud. Furthermore, during Stroud's visit, Slowik got into it with Stroud, and Slowik wanted no part of Stroud. Then enters Hannah and her Fan Committee, who went to Janice McNair who wanted a QB from the beginning, and told Janice they wanted Stroud but that Cal was against it. Janice then essentially confronted Cal telling him in no uncertain terms that he was the CEO and NOT the owner, and that her decision was final........."Stroud will be our Q." From there, it was up to Caserio to find a way to make the original promise to Demeco happen............and it did, with the Anderson pick at #3.

What is done is done. And now we wait for what we all hope will ultimately conclude in a long-term favorable outcome.

mmmmmm, yummy yummy sausage!. . .

 

[Thorn]

The problem with any of this is do you believe the "inside information" or not. Until I have my own conversation with Cal, Hanna, and Mrs. Texans Owner, I don't know what to think. Besides which, any of them might be lying.

All I know is I didn't want any part of Young or Stroud, and only got half my wish. I hope Stroud works out for us, because we need him to.

 

[Dejaview]

I'm fine about me and I'm sure your fine about you. I respect you and hope you respect me.

However what I said is spot on and I really respect the way you avoided the question and tried to disparage my character all in one simple short post. It is actually quite impressive. If you're not a lawyer, you should think about becoming one.

I LOL at posts like yours because I'm not on board with what Hannah is doing down on Kirby these days, because I don't think they marketing firm she's leading can ever win a championship. Not that she cares about winning championships.

you used to never be like this. You are going to disparage people in 90% of your posts then hide behind the posting etiquette skirts when the table is turned. SMDH.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

Houston Texans 2023 resale ticket prices see increase
Mark Lane
Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 10:44 AM CDT·1 min read

Houston Texans resale ticket prices are on the rise in 2023.

According to Nick Schwartz from the Touchdown Wire, using data from TicketSmarter, the average price to see a Texans game went from $159 in 2022 to $216 in 2023.

While the prices may be on the rise, the Texans still are among the bottom in resale ticket prices. Only the Atlanta Falcons have lower prices at $196.

Across the rest of the AFC South, the defending division champion Jacksonville Jaguars are at $242, up from $126 a season ago. The Tennessee Titans are just ahead of them at $247, up from $218. The Indianapolis Colts are next at $253, up from $200.

 

[JB]

Houston Texans 2023 resale ticket prices see increase

Good news for season ticket holders

 

[Mr teX]

Yep, like the all black staff and Watson was going to force Cal to sell the team too? Miss me with that.

lol, i missed this. Who said that here? that's not even remotely believeable.

 

[Mr teX]

Anytime you share information like this you are going to have to expect there will be people that will doubt this stuff happening. And - let’s be honest - the way this stuff went down is out of a soap opera. A fan doesn’t expect the billion dollar football franchise to be run this way. But, it’s the Texans so even the doubting Thomas’s will admit - this is believable. Just look at the last 5 years…

And it’s the internet. No one is going to fully trust what they read, and there will always be a loud voice doubting the truth.

Keep bringing us these golden nuggets of information on the inside. It is appreciated and valued.

Even if we don’t want to believe it.

Lol, I work in a hospital in which i've seen surgeons doing things in the middle of surgeries over your wide open cracked chest that you wouldn't believe are happening while you're under anesthesia. So its not that unbelievebale that some iteration of these things happen. You just gotta be careful b/c people tend to embelish things to make them appear more salacious &/or egregious than they actually were & that's where my skepticism always comes into play when i read stuff posted on hear from people with "inside" sources.

To me a disagreement is different from "getting into it"

"demanding" is different from putting in a request/order to make sure something happens

legit offline convos amongst all parties at 1 point or another is different than someone going over another's head or in this case behind their back to make something happen.

tone and the way something is done also matters as well.

So unless we have Cal, Hannah and Janice posting this inside stuff on the MB i don't think any of us can truly interpret how all this stuff really went.

 

[thunderkyss]

The problem with any of this is do you believe the "inside information" or not.

I don't believe it, I don't not believe it.

I believe CloakNNNdagger was told this by two sources & someone else here was told the same information.

Why CJStroud is a Texans doesn't really matter much to me. Can he be a franchise QB? That's all I care about.

Will Caserio get credit if Stroud becomes a HOF QB? I'd give him credit.

Will Caserio get blamed if he's a bust? I'll blame him.

 

[cuppacoffee]

Lol, I work in a hospital in which i've seen surgeons doing things in the middle of surgeries over your wide open cracked chest that you wouldn't believe are happening while you're under anesthesia. So its not that unbelievebale that some iteration of these things happen. You just gotta be careful b/c people tend to embelish things to make them appear more salacious &/or egregious than they actually were & that's where my skepticism always comes into play when i read stuff posted on hear from people with "inside" sources.

To me a disagreement is different from "getting into it"

"demanding" is different from putting in a request/order to make sure something happens

legit offline convos amongst all parties at 1 point or another is different than someone going over another's head to make something happen.

tone and the way something is done also matters as well.

So unless we have Cal, Hannah and Janice posting this insie stuff on the MB i don't think any of us can truly interpret how all this stuff really went.

At this point in time an unsigned rookie should be all 'yes sir, no sir".
Like a recruit in boot camp.

Sounds to me like Stroud may have an inflated opinion of himself. Not a good look.

I don't put credence to talking heads or journalist with space to fill.

I'll take Doc and Corrosions posts as more credible.

 

[TexansBull]

This video has Janice meeting Demeco in it. At the 7:48 mark.

It is hard to believe this frail lady is telling Cal, Demeco and Caserio what to do.

I am just saying.

 

[TexansBull]

At this point in time an unsigned rookie should be all 'yes sir, no sir".
Like a recruit in boot camp.

Sounds to me like Stroud may have an inflated opinion of himself. Not a good look.

I don't put credence to talking heads or journalist with space to fill.

I'll take Doc and Corrosions posts as more credible.

You expect kids these days to be yes sir/no sir? Or not to have an inflated opinion/sense of entitlement of themselves?

Let me introduce you to millennials, or gen y, or gen z. Whatever they call themselves.

 

[Mr teX]

At this point in time an unsigned rookie should be all 'yes sir, no sir".
Like a recruit in boot camp.

Sounds to me like Stroud may have an inflated opinion of himself. Not a good look.

I don't put credence to talking heads or journalist with space to fill.

I'll take Doc and Corrosions posts as more credible.

Lol, see this is the problem with "inside" info. Nevermind all the DOZENS of interviews and profiles over a 3 year period on the kid that show him as nothing close to what you gleamed from a 1 liner posted by CnD. Furthermore you're way off base in your assertion. For 1 Stroud was guaranteed to go inside the top 12; hardly a fringe 1st rounder like you're portraying him to be...you know, someone who MIGHT have to have that "yes, sir' attitude to propel them into the 1st. 2, Slowik is new to the OC role with hardly any skin in the game in terms of calling plays & knowing how to handle a qb of this caliber. 3, we don't have the context in which this so called "getting into it" happened. Point is, the coach isn't infallible, let alone a guy who's new to the OC role. He's learning just like Stroud. Furthermore you know how this goes. Slowik is most likely to be the one to get the axe before the savior franchise qb unless Stroud is a bust on the level of a Jamarcus Russell.

 

[TexansBull]

Should this scare us? How serious was the disagreement?

They were arguing about how hot it could get in Houston.

They both underestimated the heat.

 

[Double Barrel]

The problem with any of this is do you believe the "inside information" or not. Until I have my own conversation with Cal, Hanna, and Mrs. Texans Owner, I don't know what to think. Besides which, any of them might be lying.

All I know is I didn't want any part of Young or Stroud, and only got half my wish. I hope Stroud works out for us, because we need him to.

It's like the Texans Game of Thrones. I don't care if it's true or not. This is bonus content for my off-season popcorn consumption. lol

It doesn't affect my life in any sort of way, because, y'know, it's just entertainment and I don't live vicariously through these people. I just turn it off and find something else to amuse me when it's no longer providing any entertainment value.

 

[steelbtexan]

you used to never be like this. You are going to disparage people in 90% of your posts then hide behind the posting etiquette skirts when the table is turned. SMDH.

Who have I disparaged?

I only have talked disparaging about the McNair's and said that I don't like Stroud as a person or a player. These things are fair game.

I was accused without proof because it isn't true that I saidW was adopted and said Cak was was having marital problems because of their issues. Neither are true, on fact Boris admitted as much when I called him out on the bs. If posters want to try to make me look bad fine, but at least be able to backup the bs. Would you want posters putting out lies about you. If this is the standard around these parts, then I'm going to have a blast. Can I call you a pedophile knowing it's not true and everything thing is good? That's essentially what Boris did to me. Fact is all of Boris posts on this should have been deleted and he should have been banned for a period of time. I've been banned for less.

 

[Texansballer74]

I see you don't know much about gold diggers. Hint: It's not always about money.

What, it’s always about the money. Thus the reason why they’re called Gold Diggers.

 

[Texansballer74]

It sounds like steelb questioning Strouds intelligence has merit.

How so?

 

[Texansballer74]

For this soap opera to be believable, Hannah has to go behind her husband's back to her mother-in-law. And the elderly owner has to know enough about the draft prospects to demand a certain QB. All while Cal and Hannah are in lockstep when being interviewed by Houston media throughout the offseason. And Nick and DeMeco just let this circus happen and not say a word.

And what about the near trade for the #1 pick where Caserio ghosted the Bears GM? If the pick was always Anderson, why was that even being discussed? Or that the Texans were telling all of the other head coaching candidates that they would be taking a QB? What was the timeline of the Hannah intervention? Before bringing in Stroud for a visit? And was Slowik/Stroud argument staged to get Janice and Hannah off Stroud?

The main part that seems unbelievable is Caserio and Ryans not stepping up to take control of this. It makes them seem weak, rather than decisive and cunning. Which they had to be to pull the Stroud/Anderson exacta off. The only thing that makes sense in the story was Cal having agent related issues with Stroud. And Nick nipped that in the bud with a radio interview early in the offseason.

Again I don't have "sources". But Nick and DeMeco pulling off a bold (and top secret) move makes more sense than this episode of "All My Texans Children".

Lol it’s not true at all. But hey some people love to stir up crap. Thus the reason why people were removed from the organization. They were spreading all type of lies. Now dude starting another fire way before any real football. When the F did Stroud and Slowik get into an argument. Tell that source to bring it up the next time Caserio or Ryan’s has a presser.

 

[JB]

Lol it’s not true at all. But hey some people love to stir up crap. Thus the reason why people were removed from the organization. They were spreading all type of lies. Now dude starting another fire way before any real football. When the F did Stroud and Slowik get into an argument. Tell that source to bring it up the next time Caserio or Ryan’s has a presser.

I would trust CND's postings long before I would yours.

 

[Texansballer74]

The next time Cal and Hannah have a presser or interview, I’m going to tell them to stop lying. And to tell them they didn’t get rid of all the leaks.

 

[JB]

The next time Cal and Hannah have a presser or interview, I’m going to tell them to stop lying. And to tell them they didn’t get rid of all the leaks.

Sure you are... We'll be watching

 

[Texansballer74]

I would trust CND's postings long before I would yours.

Of course you do. That’s your boy. And I’m talking about what other players are saying. Players that played for this team and now covering this team. So those people are lying. Man stop it

 

[JB]

Of course you do. That’s your boy. And I’m talking about what other players are saying. Players that played for this team and now covering this team. So those people are lying. Man stop it

I don't trust the word of anyone getting paid by the team. Never said anyone was lying, have you? Yeah I think you call a lot of lying, but you do you. And no one is 'my boy'. Stop that crap!

 

[Texansballer74]

I don't trust the word of anyone getting paid by the team. Never said anyone was lying, have you? Yeah I think you call a lot of lying, but you do you. And no one is 'my boy'. Stop that crap!

But you trust the leaks? That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever

 

[mws]

The thing is IMO most if not all public figures try to spin stuff to their own advantage. This could be as small as just omitting the negative & emphasizing the positive to out & out lying. I think a wise person takes it all with a grain of salt & applies a little common sense before excepting things at face value.

Of course if we were all wise people most of the internet would not exist.

 

[Corrosion]

And this is exactly why I and others with legitimate inside Texans sources hesitate to post. The making of the sausage is for good reason hidden from plain sight, as it can be disgusting. No different than what has now been labeled a "soap opera." Again, it's time for me to bow out of this discussion before I write something I will regret. Best to leave some to a fantasy feel-good world.

Big part of why I have been so scarce around here lately ..... just don't have much care anymore.

Hell, all my old friends are either dead or quit posting anyway ....

RIP @Texan_Bill & @Joe Texan.

 

[JB]

But you trust the leaks? That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever

Was any of what he said released to the public or the media? If not it can hardly be called a 'leak'

 

[JB]

Of course if we were all wise people most of the internet would not exist.

FIFY

 

[JB]

Big part of why I have been so scarce around here lately ..... just don't have much care anymore.

Hell, all my old friends are either dead or quit posting anyway ....

RIP @Texan_Bill & @Joe Texan.

And that's why so many of them have quit posting. You either agree or your stupid or lying or both

 

[Corrosion]

And that's why so many of them have quit posting. You either agree or your stupid or lying or both

Pretty much.

 

[mws]

FIFY

Thanks. I'm getting blind in my old age.

 

[cuppacoffee]

Lol, see this is the problem with "inside" info. Nevermind all the DOZENS of interviews and profiles over a 3 year period on the kid that show him as nothing close to what you gleamed from a 1 liner posted by CnD. Furthermore you're way off base in your assertion. For 1 Stroud was guaranteed to go inside the top 12; hardly a fringe 1st rounder like you're portraying him to be...you know, someone who MIGHT have to have that "yes, sir' attitude to propel them into the 1st. 2, Slowik is new to the OC role with hardly any skin in the game in terms of calling plays & knowing how to handle a qb of this caliber. 3, we don't have the context in which this so called "getting into it" happened. Point is, the coach isn't infallible, let alone a guy who's new to the OC role. He's learning just like Stroud. Furthermore you know how this goes. Slowik is most likely to be the one to get the axe before the savior franchise qb unless Stroud is a bust on the level of a Jamarcus Russell.

No, the problem isn't with inside info. Especially when the insiders are privy to information the average poster isn't.

It's with people enabling the so called gen x or whatever you want to call them. Obviously you are ok with it. I call them spoiled brats.

I do not see where I called him a fringe player, I don't know if he is or not, just as you do not know that he isn't a fringe player.
As for the rest of your post, you're adding stuff I never implied. Try to keep it honest.

At this stage of their careers I trust Slowick knows more about the NFL than an unsigned rookie who's never even been through an NFL training camp.

 

[TexansBull]

And that's why so many of them have quit posting. You either agree or your stupid or lying or both

Sounds like some people aren’t ready for the internet.

 

[leebigeztx]

lol, i missed this. Who said that here? that's not even remotely believeable.

These reliable sources

 

[cuppacoffee]

How so?

Getting crosswise with your soon to be OC before even signing a contract for starters.

 

[leebigeztx]

Lol, see this is the problem with "inside" info. Nevermind all the DOZENS of interviews and profiles over a 3 year period on the kid that show him as nothing close to what you gleamed from a 1 liner posted by CnD. Furthermore you're way off base in your assertion. For 1 Stroud was guaranteed to go inside the top 12; hardly a fringe 1st rounder like you're portraying him to be...you know, someone who MIGHT have to have that "yes, sir' attitude to propel them into the 1st. 2, Slowik is new to the OC role with hardly any skin in the game in terms of calling plays & knowing how to handle a qb of this caliber. 3, we don't have the context in which this so called "getting into it" happened. Point is, the coach isn't infallible, let alone a guy who's new to the OC role. He's learning just like Stroud. Furthermore you know how this goes. Slowik is most likely to be the one to get the axe before the savior franchise qb unless Stroud is a bust on the level of a Jamarcus Russell.

To back this up, I personally know the gm in Indy. Got his number in my phone, basically grew up with the dude and I know for a fact that Stroud wasn't getting past Indy. Without given me a promise, just casual conversation like I've had hundreds of times before. So when I read certain things, even when nobody had a clue the Texans were going to trade after picking Stroud, it makes me wonder about the sources. The poster themselves may not be lying, the source may have been misled which makes the poster look like a fraud.

When Cal and Hannah had the radio interview and she stated it used to be like swiss cheese, I have a very difficult time believing these sources or leaks now. I'm always skeptical anyway until I actually see it anyway.

 

[Texansballer74]

Getting crosswise with your soon to be OC before even signing a contract for starters.

Highly doubt that happened but people gonna believe what they want.

I never seen certain players scrutinized like this on here. Only a select few.

You gents can have it. I’m done posting on this forum

 

[JB]

Getting crosswise with your soon to be OC before even signing a contract for starters.

I thought it was on a pre draft visit

 

[JB]

You gents can have it. I’m done posting on this forum

Say it ain't so

 

[BattleRedBlud]

It makes me wonder about the sources. The poster themselves may not be lying, the source may have been misled which makes the poster look like a fraud.

I agree. I do believe the posters sharing this "inside" info do 100% believe what their sources are telling them and are passing it off to us in good faith. I, however, am skeptical of the information these sources are providing leading up to the draft because;

A) The Texans have been known to have leaks and they acknowledged this and made some changes
B) Pre draft is lying season. Many things are said in order to perpetuate the smoke and mirrors effect.
C) NO ONE, I repeat, NO ONE knew what the Texans where going to do on draft day. It is very very evident in all the media articles leading up to draft day.

A & B & C above can too easily be spread around as fact behind the scenes and picked up by these inside sources before filtering down to us.

You gents can have it. I’m done posting on this forum

Don't leave brother. There are few enough sane voices here without you taking away yours.

 

[TexansBull]

And this is exactly why I and others with legitimate inside Texans sources hesitate to post. The making of the sausage is for good reason hidden from plain sight, as it can be disgusting. No different than what has now been labeled a "soap opera." Again, it's time for me to bow out of this discussion before I write something I will regret. Best to leave some to a fantasy feel-good world.

Big part of why I have been so scarce around here lately ..... just don't have much care anymore.

Hell, all my old friends are either dead or quit posting anyway ....

RIP @Texan_Bill & @Joe Texan.

You gents can have it. I’m done posting on this forum

With all due respect you guys need to grow a pair.

Just because someone disagrees with you or you feel you aren’t getting the respect you want doesn’t mean to run away.

There is always someone who is going to disagree you. Why? It’s the internet.
You don’t have any friends? Make some.
Someone is disagreeing with you? Learn not to care.
You don’t like something? Lead the change.

 

[Texansballer74]

With all due respect you guys need to grow a pair.

Just because someone disagrees with you or you feel you aren’t getting the respect you want doesn’t mean to run away.

There is always someone who is going to disagree you. Why? It’s the internet.
You don’t have any friends? Make some.
Someone is disagreeing with you? Learn not to care.
You don’t like something? Lead the change.

I draw the line when people destroy certain player’s character and doesn’t know them personally. Like I said they do it to a certain people. I give two bleeps if a joker agrees with me or not.

 

[Mr teX]

No, the problem isn't with inside info. Especially when the insiders are privy to information the average poster isn't.

It's with people enabling the so called gen x or whatever you want to call them. Obviously you are ok with it. I call them spoiled brats.

I do not see where I called him a fringe player, I don't know if he is or not, just as you do not know that he isn't a fringe player.
As for the rest of your post, you're adding stuff I never implied. Try to keep it honest.

At this stage of their careers I trust Slowick knows more about the NFL than an unsigned rookie who's never even been through an NFL training camp.

Lol, He can know more, doesn’t mean he knows how to impart his knowledge. HE doesn’t have this great track record to be trusted as far as development of wbs like an Andy Reid. Like i said, the coach or authority figure isn’t infallible & there’s no more of a good example of that than the last guy that was here longer than 1 year. Slowik hasn’t proven anymore than Stroud at this point in his career & Just b/c he’s older and in a position of authority doesn’t change that whether u like it or not. Respect is earned not given.

Furthermore i have kids Stroud’s age and believe me, I ain’t enabling anything.

 

[thunderkyss]

At this point in time...

To be clear, at this point in time Stroud is doing what he's supposed to be doing. I haven't seen any repolkrts to the contrary.

CnnD was referring to "getting into it" with Slowick during the pre-draft interview & we don't have any info of what that was about, or the severity, or anything to base any opinion on. Just more questions.

 

[CloakNNNdagger]

With all due respect you guys need to grow a pair.

Just because someone disagrees with you or you feel you aren’t getting the respect you want doesn’t mean to run away.

There is always someone who is going to disagree you. Why? It’s the internet.
You don’t have any friends? Make some.
Someone is disagreeing with you? Learn not to care.
You don’t like something? Lead the change.

Just so that you understand, if I didn't have a "pair" as big as bowling balls, I wouldn't have posted my "information," knowing full well that I would likely be used by some for indiscriminate target practice.

 

[thunderkyss]

Highly doubt that happened...

What if it did? Why is that a problem?

Slowick may have said something insensitive to set him off, Janice probably told him he was out of line & calibrated him.

People get upset & twist off. It happens. Sometimes for good reason.

Texans didn't report it, they said they had a good interview, so if it did happen & they took Stroud 1.2 chances are Slowick screwed up & the Texans are covering up for him (strike 1 kinda thing).

There are things we know, things we don't know, & things rumored. Believe it all, don't believe any of it, doesn't matter.

We know what happened, the draft, we try to reconcile all the other stuff with that. Texans aren’t drafting the kid 1.2 if he was the one out of line. There wouldn't be positive reports from Texans after the meeting if Stroud was out of line.

Texans will circle the wagons if one of their own was out of line.

 

[steelbtexan]

Team slow getting draftee signed?

Sign and trade for picks. Wouldn't bother me.

Nah. We're stuck with him for now. Apparently not much has changed in Texansville..

This is what I've been trying to tell people.

 

[badboy]

The Eagles wrote:
You can spend all your time making money,
and you can spend all your money making time.

I liked "Girl you can look up at the stars and still not see the light."

That can apply to quite a bit.

 

[TexansBull]

I draw the line when people destroy certain player’s character and doesn’t know them personally. Like I said they do it to a certain people. I give two bleeps if a joker agrees with me or not.

No excuses.

 

[steelbtexan]

I'm calling bs

Of course you are

You got what you wanted with the Stroud pick.